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    That little stove just about turned into a jet engine
    We had a little housefire last December (my cousin's house was one of 43 lost that week in our area) and when the propane bottles went off they DID turn into jet engines.



    The flame from the bottles was about 3' deep and 15+' long - with an incredible roar. We just stood there with our mouths agape. It was this huge horizontal jet of blue fire. There wasn't anywhere to go (we were surrounded by fire) and hoped that they didn't blow. I wish I'd taken a photo of it.

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    What to say ?... I'm glad your here to tell the tale.

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    Originally posted by Gerald:
    Thanks Meer. My son is coming down for a visit in Feb. and is bringing some detection units. I was going to have him bring detectors from Home Depot. Someone on the forum pointed out that the non boat units might not stand up to salt air?
    On my smaller boat I always shut the gas off every time I use the stove and this boat is set up the same way. Stuff happens and there is an outside chance there could be a leak inside the stainless box and then the stainless box leaks and then the blower isn't as strong as I thought! That Taylor might look like a bargain when the boat is on fire and I am 50 miles off shore!
    BTW Meer if you are having bilge problems I can let you in on how to make that blower! hee hee
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    I think US Coast Guard regulations require a remotely operated solenoid valve to shut off gas flow at the bottle when the attached appliances are not being used. There is also a requirement for an isolated (sealed) gas locker with overboard venting, thus it would have to be mounted with the lowest point above the waterline (heavy gas: low vent point).

    The only bilge problems I have are those of the Misc. Non-boat bilge on the WBF. Those are managable without a fan; thanks for the offer though
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    stephen m, I sure agree with your Taylor man about lamp oil. It's great stuff, though I've only used it in lamps. I use it in my lamps when I can afford it at the same time it's available. Burns noticably cleaner and brighter than anything else I've tried, including helicopter fuel. But around here the price after discount for a case of quart jugs is about $8.oo a quart. Kerosene is about $6.50 a gallon in five gallon jugs. I understand lamp oil is something other than just highly refined kerosene. Not sure what the deal is there.

    The best kerosene I've used was Standard Oil's Pearl kerosene, but haven't seen it in years.

    Has anyone tried yanking the kerosene burners from a Taylor and putting in propane burners? As someone once said (Bolger?), "Better a quick end from a propane explosion than a slow death from kerosene." (Maybe it was Kasanoff.)

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    Hi Frank
    The Taylors fellow in the UK said that one of the reasons they recommend that company is because in addition to being the best fuel it is also very cheap (comparitively).
    Of course, that isn't doing us very much good.

    RE: the comment of Bolger or Kasinoff: I have other plans.

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    Old question! I had a Taylor's two-burner stove with oven, as well as a Taylor's cabin heater when I lived aboard. Main problem was there was a definite technique to lighting them, and guests were not allowed to do so. The burners had to be preheated - when done properly, no soot and little odor, although good ventilation is essential. I used a good squirt of alcohol in the cup to preheat, or a wick mounted in a spring clip soaked in alcohol. I also used kerosene for lighting (Aladdin & Den Haan lamps). Simple, clean, cheap, available everywhere.

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    Welcome aboard Hank.
    I'm very happy with the propane stove/oven on Wandering Star. If I were building her I would have tried to arrange a propane locker that fit a bbq tank, because they are easy to exchange.

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    Wow 15 years, 77 posts and not one lousy picture.
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    I’m not sure what a “Taylor’s” stove is . Is it a fancy box for Primus burners?
    I’ve run Primus on my boats for 40 years , both the “silent” and the older “Roarer” burners.
    About 35 years ago I switched to using paint thinner. Cleaner, easier to light, available everywhere.
    I hunt for old Primus/Optimus stoves. Got a dozen or so burners and a bucket of parts.

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    Fifteen years old this thread, cool.
    I had this Taylor stove for a while. Just for grins I googled it up and they still make it today and it looks the same. http://www.taylorsheatersandcookers.co.uk/cooking
    Cast Iron top, porcelain sides, with a real fiddle. (But; I have come to hate the smell of Kerosene)
    I'm betting mine was made in the 1930's!
    For preheating I used some magic alchohol in a toothpaste tube, like Sterno. The same for an Optimus.
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    Yes kerosene stinks up a boat, does not even matter if you burn it or not . I can tell instantly if a boat has a kerosene oil lamp even aboard as soon as I climb down the ladder.
    Paint thinner . If yer feeling flush....odorless paint thinner .
    Put some clean sand in the spirit cup to hold the alcohol from splashing out.

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    Wow, great first post resurrecting an ancient thread!

    I lived with the exact Taylor's stove that Dave pictured above...the one with the glass oven door...as well as a Taylor's bulkhead kerosene heater. Lived aboard for years with that setup, as well as several kero lamps. I will never, ever allow kerosene on any boat of mine ever again. That STINK!

    The preheating, the stink of alcohol, the sputtering, the surging, the soot. Yuck.

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    Does the fact that alcohol burns without a visible flame bother anyone as unsafe? I've heard of horrific burns from alcohol fires.

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    I think the danger point with Origo type stoves is the filling when underway; a high chance of spilling. I have 3 Origos, a double and a single, both in my man cave next to my boat, cooked on for 2 years almost. If the alcohol storage on a boat is sorted out, and there is a strict procedure for filling (like put all other burners out before filling *religiously*, try to remember to fill the cartridges before setting off etc) they are good and safe. I have run them on meths, Kero and lamp oil. I like lamp oil the best. Meths smell is ghastly.

    In the UK our maternal government in its wisdom thinks that if they allow the sale of DNA (de-natured alcohol) to the public, we will all pickle our brains drinking it. So they put a purple dye and wood naptha in it, which makes it highly unpleasant to drink, and poisonous. No such qualms in France, where 'alcol a brulee' is widely available.

    Might get a still together until I depart these shores.

    Maybe long after too.

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    Here in the US you can buy "Parrafin oil" which smells like candle wax burning. Much better, but expensive. About $50 cor 2-1/2 gallons.
    Used in churches and restarants it burns very clean, hardly fouling wicks or chimneys.
    I switched to that many years ago.
    https://www.churchpartner.com/produc...CABEgIG3PD_BwE

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    I was pleased to see this thread brought back as we are still stoveless on our H28 other than a portable propane camp stove that is a pain to use when under way. My wife hates the fumes caused by priming a kero stove with alcohol. The primer burns her eyes and I can't blame her for that. So, next time we are in BC, we plan to visit the Force 10 Stove Factory to investigate their Force 10 compact Euro Stove. We have been considering this stove for several years now but have not seen an example of this one face to face. Hence the idea of seeing it at the factory.
    I have been told that it can be set up to operate on compressed natural gas and, this is what we plan to do as the supply tanks can be stored on the same side as is occupied by the stove. The two tanks will go in the starboard cockpit bench seat locker. By using CNG there is little chance of fire or explosion from a gas leak as CNG gas is lighter than air and wil not collect in low areas such as "Bright Star's" bilge.
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    Serious question: what about coal? Some Adkins drawings show a coal bin behind the galley stove. And, some Scottish bothy guides recommend carrying a sack of coal for cooking and heating. (A "bothy" is typically a restored cabin in open though usually private land, freely available as shelter during overnight hikes.)

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    Clean coal?
    (No such thing! Coal is a mess on a boat and it too has a distintive odor and really funky soot)

    I used to fill a burlap sack with hardwood off cuts from the shop to fit the "Tiny Tot" for a weekend winter cruise and that may have been the best of all.

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    I use cut offs from compressed sawdust logs in our Tiny Tot. It burns well, povides good heat and little smoke or ash.
    Jay

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    This link has a long rundown on the pros and cons of the various stove fuels for use on boats.
    http://www.goodoldboat.com/reader_se...okingfuels.php
    Never having been in close quarters with an alcohol stove, this surprised me: "Some people say the sweet smell of burning alcohol makes them nauseous." Ventilation anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by wizbang 13 View Post
    Yes kerosene stinks up a boat, does not even matter if you burn it or not . I can tell instantly if a boat has a kerosene oil lamp even aboard as soon as I climb down the ladder.
    Paint thinner . If yer feeling flush....odorless paint thinner .
    Put some clean sand in the spirit cup to hold the alcohol from splashing out.
    All I can add to that (not to disparage the sand) is to suggest as an alternative a piece of ceramic fiber stove gasket, rock wool insulation or fiberglass cloth in place of the sand. Odorless paint thinner does cost twice as much as mineral spirits at a local big box.

    I looked up the chemistry to get a handle on the difference between Kerosene, various grades of mineral spirits, paint thinner, naphtha, Diesel and odorless mineral spirits. Functionally, chemically it is a wash. Olfactorilly it can be huge.
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    Where can you now get the regulating burners for a taylors stove?
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    Dunno, but old kero stove stuff is readily available here..

    https://classiccampstoves.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    Dunno, but old kero stove stuff is readily available here..

    https://classiccampstoves.com/


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    What do you mean 'Dunno"? You provided 99% of the answer.
    Google site:https://classiccampstoves.com/ regulating burners for a taylors stove

    https://classiccampstoves.com/thread...-heater.34409/
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    It's been a while... here's the shop link.

    https://fettlebox.co.uk/index.php?

    Another forum to mine as well. Good bunch.

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    Happy New Year to All
    I guess I'll put my thoughts in ..
    I have used 'Primus' style kero pressure burners full time 365 days a years for the last 34 years.At 2 meals a day that is about 25,000 meals. At say 2 1/2 US Gallons per month That is apx 1000 gallons of kero with various names Jet A for example...
    If one pays attention to the burners and the fuel the smell is very low The flame is blue same as LPG. There is no soot ...
    One thing about boats is that even today with all the controls forced onto the people we still have some choices ....
    You all know the hazard of LPG.. I won't go into that.
    I have noticed that people who use alcohol stoves are not particularly interested in cooking (No need to send a reply on that one) or people that are not on board all that much
    There are advantages and disadvantages to most things , Think what will work best for you.
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    Here is my Origo: I have a 22’ gaffer and not much room in the cabin so it is on a slide in the cockpit. No smells and still OK under way and in the rain.0260F3D2-A6FE-4955-A14F-A1EC814B4A44.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by MN Dave View Post
    What do you mean 'Dunno"? You provided 99% of the answer.
    Google site:https://classiccampstoves.com/ regulating burners for a taylors stove

    https://classiccampstoves.com/thread...-heater.34409/
    You will notice that they don't actually sell regulating burners.... ten years ago these were easy to find, today quite a bit more difficult I don't know of anywhere making them thpough it is possible that they are still in production in India.

    https://hytta.de/kocher/Zubehoer-fue...kocher,414.htm advertises them - but at 119 euros!

    Correction - found another source
    https://sparesmarine.co.uk/webshop/c...Filter=Taylors £148!

    https://www.toplicht.de/en/shop/ofen...enner-hanse-n1
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    You will notice that they don't actually sell regulating burners.... ten years ago these were easy to find, today quite a bit more difficult I don't know of anywhere making them thpough it is possible that they are still in production in India.

    https://hytta.de/kocher/Zubehoer-fue...kocher,414.htm advertises them - but at 119 euros!

    Correction - found another source
    https://sparesmarine.co.uk/webshop/c...Filter=Taylors £148!

    https://www.toplicht.de/en/shop/ofen...enner-hanse-n1
    No kidding. Had you clicked the link in my post, (https://classiccampstoves.com/thread...-heater.34409/) you might have seen another link in the first post therein (ebay.co.uk ) for a "PRIMUS STOVE REGULATING BURNER TAYLORS STOVE OPTIMUS STOVE KEROSENE STOVE £52.99" ($67.82)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Greer View Post
    I was pleased to see this thread brought back as we are still stoveless on our H28 ... So, next time we are in BC, we plan to visit the Force 10 Stove Factory to investigate their Force 10 compact Euro Stove.
    Just came across this, sure looks interesting

    http://safire.fi/index.php?id=47

    http://safire.fi/assets/files/1600D-...manual_eng.pdf

    On the plus side - it's tiny. About the size of a sheet of paper by 6" deep. It's fully automatic. It's diesel. Sounds like the fan should be very quiet. 12 v operation.

    On the negative side - it has electronics. And (gasp) seems like the price is about a thousand euros. On the other hand, a dumb cast iron stove goes for $600 ... and that's not even a Sardine. The biodiesel version of those is some ungodly amount.

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    I lived aboard 10+ yrs....2 with pressurized alcohol and 8 with kerosene. Had one fire with alcohol when priming. Could hardly see the flame but was able to douse it with a glass of water. When in the Bahamas we couldn't find denatured alcohol that would burn without clogging up the burners and ended up cooking on the beach for a month. Flame is cold so we baked in a pressure cooker most of the time. The Origo seems to be the way to go if you want alcohol but I see alcohol more for weekend warriors.

    We used pressurized kero (with flame tamers for simmering) and primed with alcohol. Liked it and the smell wasn't bad. The boat is always open and ventilated well here in the south so I imagine the odor could be offensive up north in a closed boat. A Charlie Noble vent over the stove always helps. Kero burns hot and is available anywhere you cruise. Never had issues with availability or burning it. My backup kero stove (Optimus/Primus Hiker) has nozzles for burning just about any fuel you can find...and after having to cook on the beach for a month I won't cruise without a backup stove.

    We burned mineral spirits or a 50/50 with kero in the lamps for a lot less odor. You have to watch the wicks carefully. They needed trimming more often than with straight kero. Never tried it in the stove but might next time around. We always primed with alcohol and I made a primer that shot just enough to fill the burner cup. Easy to make and I wonder why nobody sells them. Take a rectangle quart can and drill a hole to solder a copper tube in. Slide the tube down till 1/8" from the bottom and size the diameter so when turned upside down it holds exactly enough for the primer cup. Make the tube with a long spout for reaching to the primer cup. It sure made priming easy compared to all the other methods I've tried.

    As much as I like propane, having all the gadgets to keep it safe make it less desirable. Years back I had a neighbor get blown off of his boat from a propane stove explosion. He said the first thing he remembered was seeing Tampa Bay from the air. The boat was destroyed and he was ok. That was before all the sniffing gear was mandatory.

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    The kérosène burners are easyly available at Toplicht :
    https://www.toplicht.de/en/shop/ofen...enner-hanse-n1

    Along with all the spare parts:
    https://www.toplicht.de/en/shop/ofen...ylors-zubehoer

    I have a 30L Taylor's aboard and I'm very happy with it.
    I use odorless kero from hardware stores, intended to home heaters.
    For pre-heating the gelified alcohol is safe at sea.
    I don't want butane or propane aboard since I could see one boat completely destroyed, the deck separated from the hull.
    The woman inside miraculously survived.
    The availabity of kerosene everywhere is also one important point. When I've sailed in carribeans and US I'd have no chance to connect the local bottles to the EU standard gas stoves.
    When docked or when the genset is on for fast cooking we have a portable induction which fits just top of the Taylor's.
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    Here's a nice little Taylor two burner unit in Massachusetts. A pressure tank would have to be cobbled together.

    https://www.ebay.com/i/372546778166?ul_noapp=true.

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    On Meg I have a Dickenson gravity feed stove/oven/heater. Because that is utterly unsuitable for a quick cuppa on a summer morning, I also installed a two burner top. I'd been happy shipmates with a Force 5 diesel/kero pressure stove so thought of them, but they were out of the pressure business. So I thought of Taylor, which a friend had. In the end I went for the convenience of a Dickenson propane 2 burner. I both good units but given the availability of propane versus the cost of sufficiently clean kero decided me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollapete View Post
    Serious question: what about coal? Some Adkins drawings show a coal bin behind the galley stove. And, some Scottish bothy guides recommend carrying a sack of coal for cooking and heating. (A "bothy" is typically a restored cabin in open though usually private land, freely available as shelter during overnight hikes.)
    A vented solid fuel stove on a boat will reduce humidity and help keep the cabin dry. Coal is a fuel that can be a very efficient way of heating a living space, providing it is used in a stove that is designed to burn it. Coal packs a lot more BTU's per cubic inch than wood does. A coal burning stove usually has a grate that is designed to prevent the fuel from dropping through the grate and into the ash pit before it is spent.
    Coal that is sold by the sack can be made cleaner by first breaking any over sized pieces into uniform size with a hammer. Then it should be washed with fresh water in a screen bottomed box and allowed to dry in the sun on a tarp. This will get rid of the extra dust and fine grains that are of no practical use. The fuel can then be bagged in small paper sacks such as those used for popcorn and stored in the coal bin till needed. This is a clean way to store coal oboard a boat.
    Starting a coal fire is best done by placing a small wad of paper in the fire box and placing several pieces of "Fat Wood" on top of it along with a small amount of kindling. A small bag of coal can go in next. A propane fire wand comes in handy to start the fire! If a wick of paper is placed so that it extends through the grate into the ash pit it is easy to light it with the wand and it will then start from underneath the coal. Remember that coal burns long and hot! So it will take a bit of time to get used to working with it. I burned coal in my Tiny Tot that was in my VW Bus back when I was a ski bum. I quickly learned how little coal was needed in it when the stainless steel stack turned red hot and the damper melted out! Don't forget that a cracked open port hole or other ventilation source is a must in a confined space when burning a solid fuel stove in a boat to prevent starving the fire of oxygen. A solid fuel stove that exhausted out of the living space does not put CO into the cabin but the fire will be easier to control with a bit of air vented from outside. A water cooled stack iron is a very good idea as well.
    Jay
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    One should store coal in a deck bin to let the rain wash it .
    I just love the smell of a nog of coal.. smells warm.

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