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    Default Francis Kinney 12' Rowing Dory

    I've been approached by someone who wants to commission a group of kids to build one of these boats. The lines come out of Kinney's revision of Skene's Elements of Yacht Design (8th ed.). She is 12' 1" LOA (10' LWL) and 3' 6" beam. She has two side planks, the garboard plank being narrower than the sheer strake, interestingly, and she has a flat bottom of course. The sheerline is reminiscent of a Gloucester Gull Dory but the bow is more spoon like/more plumb.

    We'd build her glued lapstrake; he wants a boat 100 pounds or less.

    This is the first time I'd heard or seen this design. It is a very elegant little boat and a perfect first project. I'd love to hear from anyone out there who has built them, rowed them, or seen much of them.

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    This guy has one: http://tinyurl.com/2qqfat

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    Wow Dave! You're good!

    Steven

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    TX...I forgot to do a search! Looks like that boat was built plywood-glued of some sort. Six were built 15 some odd years ago by Phin Sprague and his guys...the gentleman who wants a new boat owns one now and raves about it...he wants a newly built one to replace his boat. If we got this it would be Compass Project's first commissioned boat (since I have taken over anyway) and would be a great project for our apprentices to build. We may build 4 of these boats next year if we can find some buyers up front. So spread the word...it is for a great cause. See www.compassproject.org

    TX,
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    Default Re: Francis Kinney 12' Rowing Dory

    built two at local school to show em
    Sold one, they row like crazy
    Just scaled length 1;1 and beamed it to 4 feet and started a new
    developed all parts in Rhino 4, converted to metric
    Willing to give away all developments offsets and so on
    the original offsets from Skeines were exact, they must have been loft proven years ago
    I made the first in 12mm ply bottom, 8 mm topsides
    held together with epoxy, nothing moved in 10 years, alas I left it laying in the garden and there is some rot

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbgarr View Post
    This guy has one: http://tinyurl.com/2qqfat
    What guy? Seems to be some kind of link bait site?

    Would love to see some photos or plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osbert View Post
    What guy? Seems to be some kind of link bait site?
    That link was posted in 2007. It's likely the site the link originally pointed to is long gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiley Baggins View Post
    That link was posted in 2007. It's likely the site the link originally pointed to is long gone.
    Well spotted - hadn't realised this thread was so ancient!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osbert View Post
    Well spotted - hadn't realised this thread was so ancient!
    leave me an address I will send em

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    12' is very short, not what I would think of as a rewarding pulling boat.
    Foam boat builder

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    https://plus.google.com/photos/10967...49749324488545
    depends, it fit on my ute, so anything else is a mission, I took it out to 4m and here I have not as yet rounded the bow in profile

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    Does anyone know Francis Kinney or know any details of his biography?

    When I was a kid we had a member of the church by that name here in Savannah. IIRC, he was a draftsman and/or a musician. I recall he was somewhat of an iconoclast.

    Could the FK from my childhood be one and the same?
    Goat Island Skiff and Simmons Sea Skiff construction photos here:

    http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w...esMan/?start=0

    and here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/37973275@N03/

    "All kings are not the same."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleAgesMan View Post
    Does anyone know Francis Kinney or know any details of his biography?

    When I was a kid we had a member of the church by that name here in Savannah. IIRC, he was a draftsman and/or a musician. I recall he was somewhat of an iconoclast.

    Could the FK from my childhood be one and the same?
    he was an S and S architect, Sparkman and Stevens

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    Default Re: Francis Kinney 12' Rowing Dory

    This dory looks similar to (but much shorter than) the David C. King dory at the beginning of chapter 2 in Culler's Boats, Oars, and Rowing. The King dory has three planks per side but the sheer and second are in the same plane just like the wide sheer plank in the Kinney boat. Always liked the looks of King's boat, the Kinney lines might be a starting point for a recreation of it.

    http://www.sydneywoodenboats.com.au/mary-e/

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    Bit late, I know. But I have a Francis Kinney 12' Rowing Dory. Mine was built in my hometown by a small boat-building company in the mid 1980's. I found it derelict in a local boat yard in 1997 and re-built it. She's strictly a one-man boat but a dream to row. Fast, Manoeuvrable and seaworthy.

    Matthew Long, a long-time amateur wooden boat builder, kindly gave me the table of offsets a year ago as one of the locals where I live expressed an interest in building one. I have a number of photographs of the little boat should anyone like to see them.

    Dave

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    Dave would love to see photos. Feel free to email them to me...boatkits@gmail.com

    I'd love to do a kit.
    Clinton B. Chase
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