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    I'm still trying to get this image station down, I hope it works. It's been a long,long,winter and our minds have been to preoccupied on to many serious issues .Enjoy, summers coming. I believe these are Endeavor and Shamrock IV ,but I could be wrong.The photos were taken in Newport R.I. mmd take your mind off the rain Happy sails to you, Dan L from the "ocean state"of mind Shane, it only took me three times to get this out ,thanks too everyone who helped . ENJOY [img]smile.gif[/img]

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    Yeah, the picture posting curve is a bit vertical (and frustrating), but once you get it - SHAZAM!!!

    The best way to tell the 12's is by the sail # and I can't quite make out the one in the back ground.

    Thanks!

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    These are 12 Meters that you show. ENDEAVOR and SHAMROCK V are both "J" Boats, which are about twice as long as a "12". I have sailed on SHAMROCK V. She at one time belonged to the Museum of Yaching in Newport where I was a volunteer. Sofar as I know SHAMROCK IV no longer exists.

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    I knew someone would notice my mistakes but that's what I'm here for. When I enlarged the picture I can see the background vessel is U.S. 11 and the foreground one is U.S.36 or 56 .I'll see what I can find out but I bet the more avid sailors have it in their heads. Thanks for yhe clarification of "J" boats.I'm not really sure if these are wood but the masts are.
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    Some of the "12s" are wood and some are not. The one that was given to the Museum of Yachting, COURAGEOUS, is an all metal boat. The Museum actively races her. EASTENER was and still is a wood boat finished bright.

    The "J" boat SHAMROCK V (1930)is composite, 2 1/2 inch planking over an iron frame. I heard that a Dutchman is having RANGER (1937), the last and fastest of the "J" defenders, reproduced. The original was all metal.

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    I should mention that yes, SHAMROCK V's mast is metal, but you cannot climb inside it. You could climb up the inside of the mast of the 1937 RANGER. It had a ladder built inside and little hatches at the upper and lower spreaders, in case you had an urge to go up there. Not for someone with claustiphobia.

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    12 Meter Sail #11 = Gleam, which coincidentally is what started this whole Concordia nonsense.

    Heck, I barely knew what to call the pointy end of a boat and low and behold those stray Powers That Be that control all things in one's life plopped us aboard Gleam and I was smitten (or more properly broadsided) by the beautiful world of wooden boats.

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    The day that I sailed on SHAMROCK V, and got to steer her for about five minutes, was the day I went to heaven, if only temporarily.

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    Shamrock was here for most of summer. It may still be here. I never saw it move or heard of it moving from its berth unfortunately. When Velsheda was here 3 years ago she was out all the time.... what a sight,... amazing.
    Shamrock and Moonbeam IV

    Nice half model on the wall too. Peter Blake's Steinlager ... whitbread Maxi.

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    Geeze John you guys really know how to decorate a wall

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    Courageous is an almuinum boat. In fact the photo on top was taken from her tender.I was a vollunteer last year through her retrofit and should be involved again this year. I believe she'll be trailered to maryland in the next two weeks for racing at Annapollis and Baltimore.The Yachting Museum also owms Freedom another aluminum 12. Thanks for the added pictures and posts. NICE!!

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    Yeah, Margo.... funny how you forget to see things when they've been around for a while. Full size half model off the mould that the boat was built off. It's had a few crises though because it overhangs the dock below it so that if you come along side you can clock the thing with your rigging. Not that vintage boats are welcome at OUR maritime museum anymore though....... You got the dollero you can come.

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    Been digging thru albums looking for a particular picture. Didn't find it, but did these:





    These are of Amanda on Weatherly; she was 9 or 10. No, I won't tell you the details re the second picture, LOL.



    This is a year or two later on Shamrock V. What a rush...

    At least on Weatherly she could see the bow and beyond, LOL. On Shamrock she had to steer a compass course, and a look-out had to be maintained to advise her of what she was about to hit.

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    and just to flesh out my earlier whine about Shamrock never going out, we went out ourselves on Saturday and what should come powering out but

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    Actually John how about some more pictures of the half model? Seems to me with a little photo editing, it might make a nice background for a story about the guy that came into the dock hot with his gronicles out of alignment
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