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    A tent over the cockpit area would allow for weatherproof cooking/lounging/stretching/etc. Sleeping below. I also look at all the room in the boat and wonder why there is no waterproof sleeping space.

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    It only cost you a new Mercedes, huh? Mrs. Wayne sure knows how to drive a bargain, you must really want to go.

    I'm home with a sick kid today and I got to thinking about the 10.5 inches of rain we got last month. Then I saw a really nice cabin conversion up
    in Designs/Plans that someone did on a IO Fulmar. This got me to thinking about what a cabin would look like on a Caledonia Yawl, so I sketched one up just to see.



    My wife took one look and said, "that sure is a lot smaller than our tent." Oh well, guess that idea's out. I might sketch up a few more views just for fun though.

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    Here is a CY stretched a bit and cabin added. A different rig than one may want but still interesting.

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    I've studied that one quite a bit, I think it's the only CY I've seen where someone actually added a cabin. I like it, from the point of view that it makes the boat more versatile for one or two people, although I just can't get behind the aesthetics of it. I know it's practically heresy to even speak of a cabin on such a boat, although I still long for it when I think of the wetter moments of SE Alaska cruising. As my wife has reminded me, we have a crew of four, two of which are getting bigger every day, so a boat that is perfect for two simply will not cut it.

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    This is a great thread to follow but I thought I might add some information. The best weather is accompanied by the lightest winds and the best winds are when the weather is cold and unpleasant. The periodicity of storms is 10 days in late July on the central coast and every 2-3 days by October. The incidence of fog (no fun cruising) is lowest in late July (central coast) and basically doubles by late August. It is most uncommon to see sails up for travelling on boats cruising (on all of the BC coast). It is I think the best cruising area in the world with a fairly short weather window (on the central coast).

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    I have still been giving this trip lots of thought.

    Right now my life is in a huge state of flux so I haven't been working towards building. I will most likely be moving to TN from CO very soon so I can be around my parents full time (my mom has cancer) so other priorities other than playing with boats is where my time has been.

    I am starting to lean more towards something with a motor plus cabin, Aux sails would be nice, but not really needed. The more I read about this trip the more I am seeing this as the most realistic way of doing it. My dad is an avid woodworker with a very large shop. I am going to build the boat with him so that we can spend some time together.

    Here are some designs I am thinking about. What do you guys think? I know the boats are definitely bigger than I first planned.

    Tad Roberts Timbercoast 22

    http://www.bartenderboats.com/images...t 6-9-2009.pdf

    Devlin's Dipper 19 or Dunlin 22

    http://store.devlinboat.com/dipper19.aspx

    http://store.devlinboat.com/dunlin22pilot.aspx



    Here are some smaller boats.

    Tad Roberts Pogy series, 18' Double ender and North Coast Troller & Devlin's Litl Coot


    http://www.tadroberts.ca/services/sm...ymotorsailor17

    http://www.tadroberts.ca/services/sm...motorsailer195


    http://www.tadroberts.ca/services/sm.../doubleender18

    http://www.tadroberts.ca/services/sm...coasttroller18

    http://store.devlinboat.com/litl_coot.aspx
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    Those are all very nice boats. I'd be inclined towards the bigger ones myself, but I think they would all be just fine.

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    Give some thought to the practical aspects of getting the boat from TN to WA/BC and back again. Other than that, go for it!

    I will be spending more and more time in/around Boone, NC. Give me a shout when you get settled. I would welcome an excuse to look in on a boat building project to break the highway grind.
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    OK guys, this is what I am going to build for the trip. Should have plans in hand this week.

    http://www.bateau.com/studyplans/HMD...htm?prod=HMD19







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    That'll work. You'll have to pick your weather, but you'll be quite comfortable hanging on an anchor waiting for an opening. I'd recommend two 10HP Hondas for power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venchka View Post
    Give some thought to the practical aspects of getting the boat from TN to WA/BC and back again.......
    Nobody who comes here, leaves. Especially if they make the Passage trip. Say goodbye when you leave home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAIROS View Post
    Nobody who comes here, leaves. Especially if they make the Passage trip. Say goodbye when you leave home.
    Not true. I made the Passage trip, then stayed in SE Alaska for 25 years, and then I left. So it can be done, but with difficulty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryLL View Post
    That'll work. You'll have to pick your weather, but you'll be quite comfortable hanging on an anchor waiting for an opening. I'd recommend two 10HP Hondas for power.
    I have thought about that after looking at Devlin's Dipper 19, which is a great design also. I think In order to keep costs down I am going to use a 8-9.9 Yamaha high thrust and then bring along a smaller/lighter less HP OB as a backup engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Altitude View Post
    I have thought about that after looking at Devlin's Dipper 19, which is a great design also. I think In order to keep costs down I am going to use a 8-9.9 Yamaha high thrust and then bring along a smaller/lighter less HP OB as a backup engine.
    The Yamaha high-thrust will push that boat nicely.
    The emergency kicker should be mounted and ready to go, with its own fuel tank and filter. There are many narrow passages with strong currents, so when the main dies, you may have very little time to get the spare engine cranked up. A completely separate fuel system for the kicker will save you a lot of grief if your main fuel system gets contaminated.

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    Terry, thanks for the great tip about having the kicker hooked up to a seperate fuel system.


    I received the plans and have started to go through them. So far, so good. I think I am going to attempt to build a model. I have never built a model before so that is why I say "attempt" Who knows how it will go. I am going to build one not so much to end up with a show piece, but to become more familiar with the way the boat goes together, so I believe just going through the exercise will help.

    I am also thinking about how to fit out the boat and have a question.


    How much total range/miles do you think will be adequate? (ie. the boat needs to be able to motor 150 miles before next fill up). I am thinking about how I am going to setup the fuel system, how many gallons of gas to have on the boat, where to put it etc.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Altitude View Post
    Terry, thanks for the great tip about having the kicker hooked up to a seperate fuel system.


    I received the plans and have started to go through them. So far, so good. I think I am going to attempt to build a model. I have never built a model before so that is why I say "attempt" Who knows how it will go. I am going to build one not so much to end up with a show piece, but to become more familiar with the way the boat goes together, so I believe just going through the exercise will help.

    I am also thinking about how to fit out the boat and have a question.


    How much total range/miles do you think will be adequate? (ie. the boat needs to be able to motor 150 miles before next fill up). I am thinking about how I am going to setup the fuel system, how many gallons of gas to have on the boat, where to put it etc.......
    Building a scale model is a great exercise and will save you time and materials when you move on to the actual boat. A workable scale is 1.5 inches to the foot, or 1/8th scale. At this scale 1" on the boat becomes 1/8th inch on the model. Balsa wood in various thicknesses is my preferred scale-building material. Many plans are drawn at 1.5 inches to the foot, so the model can be built directly from the plans.

    About fuel capacity: I believe this was covered earlier in the thread. Last I heard the Butedale station was shut down. The run from Klemtu to Rupert is about 140 miles, which is likely the longest run between fuel stops. Hartley Bay is about in the middle of that run, and I heard recently that they had fuel. A 200 mile range would likely be enough. It's good to have significant reserve.

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    The only place to fuel between Port Hardy and Prince Rupert, is a Shearwater or Bella Bella, both about halfways up the central coast. Fuel may be available at fishing lodges in River's Inlet in summer months or at Indian villages like Klemtu or Hartley Bay, but availability may vary from day to day as they are reliant on tug and barge for delivery and you may have to fuel 5 gals at a time in jerry cans. Fuel has not been available at Butedale for about 30 years or longer. Seal Rock carries 1980L of diesel allowing us the range to do the 290nm from Cowichan Bay to Prince Rupert with out fueling, however always topping up in Hardy or Port McNeil before crossin Queen Charlotte Strait, In effect carrying twice as much diesel as we need. I guess what I'm saying is try to be selfsufienct with fuel and water as you can't count on getting it in the 80 nm between Hardy and Shearwater or the next 90nm to Rupert. A small boat should count on having a range of 150nm to be realistic about cruising north of Queen Charlotte Strait.

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    Don't forget Ocean falls where you can usually get gas on Fridays(!), and Dawson's landing used to have fuel in peak season. Bella Coola is reliable but a bit of a run; if you go, take note of the Mirimachie nose (a point of land) which is very well respected by the locals.

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    The under sole fuel tank specd in the plans is 12 gallons. I would also take a 6 gallon portable hooked up to the kicker and for back up fuel.

    According to Ross who built this plan, he cruises at around 6.2mph burning .4gph.

    Using 6mph at .5gph (to be on the conservative side) that gives me a max range of 216miles. That is cutting it close.

    There is a 17g tank that I think will fit with a little modification. I will ask the designer to see what he says.

    That would be a total of 23g with max range of 276 miles. That's better.

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    "Seal Rock carries 1980L of diesel allowing us the range to do the 290nm from Cowichan Bay to Prince Rupert with out fueling" - that's the best! I'd want fuel for Hardy to Rupert for if you got halfway there and something was amiss, you'd be SOL. Just saying. / Jim

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    I am in the process of building a model. I have cut out most of the hull parts and I am building the strong back.



    The plans are good. I had a couple questions about design changes, posted on Bateau's forum and the designer, Evan, responded within 1 day. Very impressive considering Evan is cruising the oceans of the world on his 40' cat and was in Fiji at the time.

    The design changes I am going to make include lowering the sole in the pilothouse for standing headroom. Ross did this on his HMD and it worked out very well. I will also be adding a full bulkhead/door and enclosing the pilot house. Another option would be to use a sunbrella/vinyl setup with a zippered door snapped to the back of the pilot house instead. I am not sure which way to go. The other change I am going to make includes opening up access to the V berth very similar to how Tad designed his Timbercoast Troller.





    By doing this it creates lots of options. I could put in a fold out extension to the vberth if needed or I could change the interior arrangement to more of a L setup similar to the Timbercoast Troller or Ranger Tugs 21ec vs having the galley/seat boxes on both sides. It also will allow me to push the passenger seat forward to create a longer galley on that side similar to what Devlin does in the Dipper 19 or Surf Scoter. You can also design the seat to be easily removed to gain even more counter space.



    It looks like the largest under sole fuel tank you can fit is the one specd in the plans at 12g. I guess I will be taking a couple 6g portables.

    When it comes to the possibilities of heating the cabin, cooking, water etc.... I would like to get your opinions.

    How do you guys think I should fit out the boat?

    I am not sure about a cabin heater, yes, no, what kind?

    I was thinking a simple one burner non-pressurized alcohol stove and a plastic bin for a sink.

    Would it be better to install a water tank under the V berth with maybe a hand pump to get water out of it or would it be better to simply store containers of water under the Vberth?

    For a head- porta potti, bucket, wag bags???

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    Here's another boat, already in the Seattle area, ready for the trip to Alaska and back...

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/2670974252.html

    ...less than $30,000!


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    This 21 ft is just up the road from us in Ladysmith for around $3,000. I've peered in the windows many times and it oozes charm and character. Could use a little tlc on the outside, not sure what shape its actually in hull and engine wise. But I've been very tempted http://ladysmith.boatverse.com/power...at_138907.html :


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    That's a good one! A guy could buy it, make the trip, then sell it again. Heck, they could give it away, and be ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimD View Post
    This 21 ft is just up the road from us in Ladysmith for around $3,000......
    I certainly don't know for sure, without surveying the boat (personally), but my experience tells me that these bargain boats are not much of a bargain and often require an unbelievable investment of money and time to just make them safe and dependable. I'm not talking about paint and varnish. It's very likely this boat would need a complete overhaul of the deck, cabin-top, steering system, engine, tanks, electrical system......on and on. Several times the initial investment.

    Now, for an inside passage trip you could just hang a dependable outboard with a big prop on the transom (as a back up), with it's independent above-deck fuel system, tow a peapod or inflatable, get an epirb and a bunch of dry bags, and live with the other problems.....fix them later or not and sell 'as-is'. Or, if you're the kind of person who enjoys being in a constant state of emergency and the challenge of needing to fix things in precarious conditions, just jump aboard with lots of tools and 10 pounds of beef jerky and get on with it.

    A much simpler boat in good condition, maybe selling for more than twice this price (a Redwing?), would be a vastly better investment. But then, sometimes we just get seduced by a particular boat and there's little we can do but go along with it......lots of fun. Really. I hope somebody here buys it and provides us with the associated entertaining and interesting threads .
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    Hi All,

    I've been doing some thinking about the inside passage myself, and I've just re-read this entire thread (well, most of it). Kairos, your account of your passage from Egg Island to Blunden Harbour sent cold shivers down my spine - I've been in similar sea conditions, but nowhere near as extreme as that. Cape Caution/Queen Charlotte Sound is the big hurdle, for sure.

    Anyway, I retired this summer so I have more time available - I would like to say that I'm going to go off and do the whole thing, but there are various commitments and conflicting fun stuff that I don't want to miss, so I'm just going to start and see how far I get.

    Next May 15 I will leave from Victoria, on Vancouver Island, in my Chebacco Wayward Lass. I will take my outboard although I will avoid using it if I can - I'll take the oars but since a Chebacco is not really a good rowing boat I'm hoping the south-easterlies will still be blowing then.

    If anyone would like to join me, this could be a good warm-up for the inside passage as well as a good trip in itself - although to make it a real test you have to use only what you bring, and can't go ashore for showers, hot coffee and cold beer. However, I will be happy to describe these luxuries to you on my return from each of my shore trips. Or you can skip the test part.

    I will be out for a maximum of 4 weeks and plan to make it a one-way trip, either calling home for the trailer at the end, or parking Wayward Lass until I can return and carry on. If someone would like to come but the one-way is a problem, they could use my trailer to get back to Victoria.

    Of course, this plan depends on nothing happening between now and next May, but right now it all looks good.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Orr View Post
    .....Kairos, your account of your passage from Egg Island to Blunden Harbour sent cold shivers down my spine......Jamie
    I was not careful enough in choosing the time to cross. I think I mis-read the tide table. The trip north of Egg Island was so spectacular, that the incident is just a small part of a very positive memory. I don't mean to scare at all......just be careful.....more careful than I was. You can get in trouble if you do bone-head stuff like mis-read the tide table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KAIROS View Post
    I was not careful enough in choosing the time to cross. I think I mis-read the tide table. The trip north of Egg Island was so spectacular, that the incident is just a small part of a very positive memory. I don't mean to scare at all......just be careful.....more careful than I was. You can get in trouble if you do bone-head stuff like mis-read the tide table.
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    I didn't realize there was much current out there, so far from the strait - something else to watch out for. I looked at the area on my small scale chart and it shows shoals SW of Egg, could that have amplified the waves?

    It'd probably not something I need to worry about this year, but if I continue north in 2013 it'll be in my mind. Which reminds me, way back in post #7 there is a chart with wind arrows. I've been mining the Environment Canada site for wind history but haven't seen one of these. Does anyone know where to find these?

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    QUOTE: I didn't realize there was much current out there, so far from the strait - something else to watch out for. I looked at the area on my small scale chart and it shows shoals SW of Egg, could that have amplified the waves?

    I was going south and had just exited the Strait there to the north of Egg Island. Plus there are other bays/straits emptying into that area from the mainland, on the ebb. Wind from SW. The worst was north of Egg Island. Wind and chop had moderated by the time I was offshore of Egg. Bigger swell than I imagined could be in there, and the opposing current pushed the swell-tops closer together too. This is just my interpretation of what must have been going on (strong current against wind). The bottom and dry-land configuration probably had an effect too. Most boats transit the area with no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KAIROS View Post
    I certainly don't know for sure, without surveying the boat (personally), but my experience tells me that these bargain boats are not much of a bargain and often require an unbelievable investment of money and time to just make them safe and dependable. I'm not talking about paint and varnish. It's very likely this boat would need a complete overhaul of the deck, cabin-top, steering system, engine, tanks, electrical system......on and on. Several times the initial investment.

    Now, for an inside passage trip you could just hang a dependable outboard with a big prop on the transom (as a back up), with it's independent above-deck fuel system, tow a peapod or inflatable, get an epirb and a bunch of dry bags, and live with the other problems.....fix them later or not and sell 'as-is'. Or, if you're the kind of person who enjoys being in a constant state of emergency and the challenge of needing to fix things in precarious conditions, just jump aboard with lots of tools and 10 pounds of beef jerky and get on with it.

    A much simpler boat in good condition, maybe selling for more than twice this price (a Redwing?), would be a vastly better investment. But then, sometimes we just get seduced by a particular boat and there's little we can do but go along with it......lots of fun. Really. I hope somebody here buys it and provides us with the associated entertaining and interesting threads .
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    Yes, for sure. Its really hard to say without a survey. Still, in these economic times some people are desperate to unload quite sound boats for whatever they can get. Its a buyers' market.

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    Jim, That was my first real boat! I sold it to the fellow who owns it now about 12 years ago. It was a fine boat then, very simple hard chine construction, 4cyl. graymarine gas, minimal 12v system, cable steering, no accomodation, about as basic as it can get. The cockpit drained into the bilge, so that would be a place to be wary of.. Was a great little work boat for pulling logs of the beach, light towing and jerk-fishing, with one drawback, it was sooo slow. 4.5-5kts at best. Best of all, it was a keel cooled inboard, with a dry stack just like a real boat, and didn't have all the awful issues associated with outboards. I kept it in Cow bay and spent very week-end for 2years on that boat, doing just what I described above. If I didn't already have a big wooden boat that I don't use enough, I would buy the Lori Ann in an instant!
    Dave.

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    That boat is sounding better.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sealrock View Post
    Jim, That was my first real boat!
    Wow! What a small world!

    I think she's gorgeous. Perfect speed for keeping up with the expected fleet. Gotta love a keel-cooled, dry stack boat. You can run her on the hard, until temps get a bit warm. Should keep internal engine corrosion to a minimum. Anyway to convert to a self bailing design? How about converting to an outboard (excuse the sacrilege), but that would open space and make for a quick engine swap with no "spark" issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sealrock View Post
    Jim, That was my first real boat! I sold it to the fellow who owns it now about 12 years ago. It was a fine boat then, very simple hard chine construction, 4cyl. graymarine gas, minimal 12v system, cable steering, no accomodation, about as basic as it can get. The cockpit drained into the bilge, so that would be a place to be wary of.. Was a great little work boat for pulling logs of the beach, light towing and jerk-fishing, with one drawback, it was sooo slow. 4.5-5kts at best. Best of all, it was a keel cooled inboard, with a dry stack just like a real boat, and didn't have all the awful issues associated with outboards. I kept it in Cow bay and spent very week-end for 2years on that boat, doing just what I described above. If I didn't already have a big wooden boat that I don't use enough, I would buy the Lori Ann in an instant!
    Dave.
    Good to hear from you, Dave. I wish I was in a position to purchase her and give her the care she deserves and hope she finds a good home. I'll try and make it up to Ladysmith in the next day or two and take some pics showing her current condition.

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    Hi All,

    Just a note that starting about aug 1 2012 two of us will be sailing our mirror 11 dinghys from Prince rupert to Port McNeil on Vancouver island. Plan it to wheel the dinghies onto the BC Ferry in Port hardy to take them up to Rupert then sail back. The winds are better than way. So if any of you are interested let us know.

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    Sounds like a good trip.

    Isn't getting across Queen Charlotte Sound a big issue with the dinghy?

    How big of a boat could you take on the ferry? I would guess as long as you could wheel it on it would work.


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    Hi All,

    Just a note that starting about aug 1 2012 two of us will be sailing our mirror 11 dinghys from Prince rupert to Port McNeil on Vancouver island. Plan it to wheel the dinghies onto the BC Ferry in Port hardy to take them up to Rupert then sail back. The winds are better than way. So if any of you are interested let us know.

    dan
    Last edited by High Altitude; 12-07-2011 at 11:19 AM.

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    Yes as long as you wheel it on. Our boats are 11 ft long. The 29 of july ferry from port hardy to Rupert has been selected so anyone else wanting to join that is the date! The trailer crowd could certainly take that boat and then sail down.....

    cape caution is the only real dodgy bit.....must have cards so that can sit for a few days to wait for weather.

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinghyguy View Post
    cape caution is the only real dodgy bit.....
    I think you'll discover otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinghyguy View Post
    Yes as long as you wheel it on. Our boats are 11 ft long. The 29 of july ferry from port hardy to Rupert has been selected so anyone else wanting to join that is the date! The trailer crowd could certainly take that boat and then sail down.....

    cape caution is the only real dodgy bit.....must have cards so that can sit for a few days to wait for weather.

    cheers
    Good to know. I hadn't actually thought of taking a boat as a walk on passenger. My half finished converted kayak sailing outrigger ought to be ready for a serious cruise by mid summer. It has an 8 foot beam with a high volume ama, about 11 feet including the safety ama on the other side of the hull. But it could all be disassembled for shipping. Lug rigged, and will be equiped with a 2.5 Suzuki just in case. I'll have to give this some thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston View Post
    ok let me try that again



    A truly fabulous vessel. Like something out of 'The Curve of Time', only considerably more luxurious, I would imagine:


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    I believe this boat is known here, or at least the owners...




    http://juneau.craigslist.org/boa/3003810743.html

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    Yes, the boat, the owners, the builders, where built, how built, and where sailed. I've lost touch with the builder over the years, but I suspect they are off on another grand adventure

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    Was thinking one of the adventurers could buy this one, and get a huge jump on the rest of the crowd. They could spend a week at each of the warm springs, while the rest make their way north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Orr View Post
    Hi All,

    I've been doing some thinking about the inside passage myself....

    Next May 15 I will leave from Victoria, on Vancouver Island, in my Chebacco Wayward Lass. I will take my outboard although I will avoid using it if I can - I'll take the oars but since a Chebacco is not really a good rowing boat I'm hoping the south-easterlies will still be blowing then.

    I will be out for a maximum of 4 weeks and plan to make it a one-way trip, either calling home for the trailer at the end, or parking Wayward Lass until I can return and carry on....

    Of course, this plan depends on nothing happening between now and next May, but right now it all looks good.

    Cheers,

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    Hi again,

    I had big plans last fall and the above is some of what I posted then. However, I've discovered that despite being retired, I'm not entirely footloose and fancy-free. Instead of sailing of alone, I was seduced by highland games, boat shows and by the opportunity to rendezvous with friends. I did spend a few days solo around the Gulf Islands as well, and had some great sailing, but the inside passage trip remains unstarted.

    The rest of this summer is pretty full so I'm looking at 2013 now, around late May to early July, give or take. Is anyone else thinking of sailing north around then? I still think it's more realistic for me to do the whole trip over two seasons, and plan to start from Victoria BC, but I'm flexible about that - I'd be happy to start from Port Hardy instead.

    Jamie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Orr View Post
    Hi again,

    I had big plans last fall and the above is some of what I posted then. However, I've discovered that despite being retired, I'm not entirely footloose and fancy-free. Instead of sailing of alone, I was seduced by highland games, boat shows and by the opportunity to rendezvous with friends. I did spend a few days solo around the Gulf Islands as well, and had some great sailing, but the inside passage trip remains unstarted.

    The rest of this summer is pretty full so I'm looking at 2013 now, around late May to early July, give or take. Is anyone else thinking of sailing north around then? I still think it's more realistic for me to do the whole trip over two seasons, and plan to start from Victoria BC, but I'm flexible about that - I'd be happy to start from Port Hardy instead.

    Jamie
    It was a lot easier to commit to the trip when it was still two years away, but maybe next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Orr View Post
    Hi again,

    I had big plans last fall and the above is some of what I posted then. However, I've discovered that despite being retired, I'm not entirely footloose and fancy-free. Instead of sailing of alone, I was seduced by highland games, boat shows and by the opportunity to rendezvous with friends. I did spend a few days solo around the Gulf Islands as well, and had some great sailing, but the inside passage trip remains unstarted.

    The rest of this summer is pretty full so I'm looking at 2013 now, around late May to early July, give or take. Is anyone else thinking of sailing north around then? I still think it's more realistic for me to do the whole trip over two seasons, and plan to start from Victoria BC, but I'm flexible about that - I'd be happy to start from Port Hardy instead.

    Jamie
    When i started my Caledonia Yawl 18 months ago I though it'd be a one year build. Now it looks like at least the summer of 2013 before it hits the water. It looks like 2014 at the earliest for any thought of another excursion up the IP.

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    I was hoping to do it this summer, but that's now gone out the window. Definitely next year, end of May or sooner to take advantage of the southeasterlies. I just hope it won't be as cold and wet as this year has been so far.

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    I'm sorry to tell you boys, but we had summer last weekend. It was grand.

    Jim
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    and a new SOF Whitehall too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    I'm sorry to tell you boys, but we had summer last weekend. It was grand.

    Jim
    As I recall, a day or two of summer can be expected in June. July 1 usually marks the beginning of the mid-summer rains, followed by the late summer rains, followed by the early fall rains, and before you know it you're back in the rainy season.

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    It's fabulous how this topic has survived for so many years. Just glossed over it and perhaps someone has mentioned the following video before, but here it is, just in case:



    Heather has also put up a slide show on the Mirror Dinghy Discussion Forum: http://multiply.com/slideshow/hdruggehotos:1

    I assume the photos are not faked : so it doesn't ALWAYS rain in that part of the World ;-{)

    Cheers,
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    Hi All,

    Just an update on the Mirror dinghy cruise from Prince Rupert to Port Hardy.

    Left Prince Rupert on 30 July, travelled 322 miles or about 250 miles as the crow flies. See attached graphic. trip graphic (Small) (Mobile) (Mobile) (Custom).jpg

    Each flag is where we camped. Lost about a day a week to weather until we got to Rivers inlet, At that point the weather was unstable and we had life commitments which meant we could not loiter for a week or two until a High set up, so ended the trip about 50 miles or 5 days short of the target. Next year...... Video will eventually be prepared.....

    So to all the dreamers....if we can do it in 11 ft sailboats with no motors, just oars, so can you.

    dinghyguy

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