Tar Devil - I have to ask - is that DC3 for real?
Tar Devil - I have to ask - is that DC3 for real?
Is that DC-3 on Pontoons on Moosehead Lake near Greenville Maine?
Last one I saw was there. Great Meatloaf in a diner in town.
[ 02-16-2006, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: troutman ]
It is, indeed.Originally posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett:
Tar Devil - I have to ask - is that DC3 for real?
I think so. Here it is on the water...Originally posted by troutman:
Is that DC-3 on Pontoons on Moosehead Lake near Greenville Maine?
Last one I saw was there. Great Meatloaf in a diner in town.
Also, here'a link to a fly-in at Greenville where these photos were taken...
Taylorcraft 2002
What a hoot. Your site about the 2002 fly in at Moosehead talked about the DC-3 being the last on Pontoons and hadn't flown in 5 years but they'd worked all night to get it ready. didn't say it flew only said it taxied. I love an adventure but no thanks on that flight.
Well, don't know if it flew in '02, but it definitely flew in this '05 photo...
and another GooneyBird with alternative landing gear
As long as were talking big classics, I've always admired these
Dude, look at the fuselage on that Connie! That is art!
Later,
Phil
SNAP!
I was seven, flying with my mother from Nairobi to Paris (diverted to Nice, baggage handlers strike!) in 1960 on an Air France Super Constellation. And the thing I remember was FIRE out of the exhausts.
This is what I really want.
Just found this, thanks to Google.
Short Empire Class - walk around
Before my time, but my father flew the length of Africa in one during WW2, changing ships. The plane landed for lunch and they stayed at purpose built hotels (in the middle of nowhere) overnight. No rationing, no blackout.
The plane made a low pass down the river or lake followed by a go-round before landing, each time. This was to get the crocs and hippos out of the way.
Note the arrangement for engine maintenance - fourth photo, top row - with the forward section of the wing folding out forwards to form a platform. I don't know if Boeing did this but it was standard in Shorts' flying boats - the Sunderlands all had it.
That Alaska Air Taxi hangar looks like the old Wein Air Hangar, and if it is a weenie bird hangar, the window at the far end is my old office and my radio antenna sticking outta the roooof...
and Paul...that C-45 flies better with TURBINES as in Volpar....which izz still like a big, fat brick when the fans are off...
[ 02-16-2006, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: paladin ]
I just started working for Altair Avionics www.altairavionics.com
We put engine monitors on aircraft, to predict when engines are going to have problems and fix them before them become bigger issues.
Work will be sending me to the Pratt plant soon to get training on these.
The PW100 is an advanced technology, fuel efficient turboprop engine designed to power 30 to 70 passenger regional transport, as well as utility and corporate aircraft.
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I have flown on the Constellation many times. I am that old. One time was from New York to Amsterdam and back. Probably the best piston powered airliner ever built.
Yes, fire did come out of the exhaust stacks of any of the big radials. It was interesting to watch at night. Apparently they ran rich on takoff and landing, and then about two feet of yellow flame come out of the stacks. After getting up a ways, the flight engineer leaned down the mixture and the flame shrunk back to about 6 inches of pale blue.
Listening to one of those big radial engines come to life is like listening to whistle of a steam locomotive.
Flew from McGuire AFB, NJ to France via the Azores on a DC-6. Leaving McGuire, a 15' pillar of FIRE came out of the inboard port engine exhaust in broad daylight! Scared me good. Upon arrival at the Azores, a 22 hour layover while they changed an engine - the inboard port engine!Originally posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett:
SNAP!
I was seven, flying with my mother from Nairobi to Paris (diverted to Nice, baggage handlers strike!) in 1960 on an Air France Super Constellation. And the thing I remember was FIRE out of the exhausts.
I think that was also the flight where the cabin heat had two settings: "incinerate" or "igloo". Fortunately, they had lots of blankets.
When I found this photo I just had to bump this thread up once more.
Anyone remember this bird?
1960's era Twin Engine Champ. I think it had a couple of Continental O-200 engines. It's probably the rarest plane I've flown, and far from the safest. You treated it like a single engine plane because it NEEDED both engines to fly. If one engine quit you immediately started looking for a place to land.
Such a racket inside that thing, too! More noisy than most of the military stuff I've flown.
Later,
Phil
first bird I owned wuz an Aeronca Chief...upgraded engine from 65 hp to 100hp...
Don't know diddly about airplanes, but this one used to belong to a guy I knew, Elliot Pisor. Haven't seen him in years, so I don't know if she still does. One hell of a ride!
Oh, yea, he owned these ones, too. (He had a couple of partners in his airplane hobby.)
[ 02-20-2006, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: Bob Cleek ]
I expect the P-51 captured the eye of almost every aviator that ever lived (and quite a few non-aviators). I personally loved the Bearcat.
That Cri Cri was one heck of an aerobatic mount.
I think noted author, aviator and sailer Ernie Gann bought one of those Wing Derringers. Named it Noon Balloon II (His Cessna 310 was Noon Baloon I).
oh..I dunno...there's a couple of Wing Derringers around...it's just that folks wanted 4 or more seats with twin engines...the problem was the price tag of a Beech Bonanza without the features...
Good concept for ME training, though.
Two seats is a lot less to insure than 4, and the SE performance was 'sposed to be much improved. Still... if I were spending those kind of bucks, I'd want another row of seats. I'm sure that's what killed the concept.
Later,
Phil
Phil...I hear there's some of my former associates near you hoarding old Pilatus Porters....know anything about them?
What is the connection between boat people and planes? Here is my choice thats me in the back seat:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Charlie Santi:
[QB]What is the connection between boat people and planes?
Money.
Perrsonally i'm rather partial to the C-130;
and a look at the gargantuan tail
I also rather like the Helio Currier, although i couldn't find any pictures if it.
I would also go for the Beaver, or the twin/single otter.
[ 02-20-2006, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: sbsbw ]
Got some names? I might know 'em.Originally posted by paladin:
Phil...I hear there's some of my former associates near you hoarding old Pilatus Porters....know anything about them?
Charlie... I personally didn't care much for the T6. Heavy controls, and a lot of work to get through maneuvers. Besides, I've lost a couple of friends to that bird... good pilots, too.
Jeff, I share your enthusiasm for that Volmer birdl. Built of wood, to boot!!
Interesting side note... although John Moody was christened the "Father of Ultralights," Volmer Jensen was flying his little VJ-23 and VJ-24 designs back in the '60s.
Later,
Phil
[ 02-20-2006, 11:24 PM: Message edited by: Tar Devil ]
Much prettier than the 'stang:
Ian
Wow Phil, you have some memory. The pic that Paul posted of the H-1 is the replica – Jim, my late Uncle is piloting the plane. Phil, knowing your love of planes I really wanted you to hook up with Jim and so you could check out his work, but alas, things change.Don't know if you know, Paul, but that Hughes Racer replica belonged to the uncle of one of our forumites. Can't find his name.
The airplane crashed on the way home from Oskosh several years ago, killing the owner/pilot.
rob
best thread in the bilge.
Any pilots I've known seem to be keen sailors as well. I stayed away from planes myself because I thought it would be bad for me financially. really bad.
I can look though.
Rob, Dude! So great to hear from you!
I would've loved to have met your uncle and see that incredible machine of his. Everything I read about him was exactly as you described him... just one heck of a nice guy.
I had bookmarked your boat photos and the last time I tried to look at them the link no longer worked. Still building boats? Hope so, 'cause you had your uncle's artistic eye!
Again, great to hear from you. Don't be a stranger!
Later,
Phil
So many of the same dynamic principles at work in both airplanes and boats.Originally posted by John B:
Any pilots I've known seem to be keen sailors as well.
We all remember Dennis Conner's America's Cup defense in the catamaran? Aviation legend Burt Rutan designed and built the sail/wing...
Later,
Phil
This is a Swift 125 I posted in a previous thread. I remember Chuck said that he used to own one.
yup...had a 1949 Temco...reengined with TSIO-360-D...dorsal fin kit, cessna 150 bucket seats, adel downlock on main gear, new instrument panel with King silver crown up the middle, rear window kit, "M" Bonanza wing tips, 16 more gallons fuel, etc....was gonna put sticks in it instead of wheels , ala Pony, but Hank Perez at CAA sed if I did one more thing to the swift he would ground it.....no sense of humor....
I think we need one of these:
The first airliner that my mother flew in - up to the mountains in Iraqi Kurdistan, as it happened.
My old boss still has his, the one in the picture, which he bought when his family made him sell his Spitfire (long, very funny, story about crossing London in single engine aircraft) and it's used for flying circuits at Duxford, so it's in daily commercial use. Maybe the oldest civil airliner in daily use?
[ 02-21-2006, 08:37 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Craig-Bennett ]
I was allowed to take "sailing" as my "games" option at school because that allowed Eric Richards, the Physics Master, to spend the afternoon flying his one of these, on the pretext that he was keeping an eye on me.
(I liked school...)
That's what new RAF pilots stepped out of, and into a Spitfire or Hurricane, in 1940. The Tiger Moth.
Before he died, speed genius Roy LoPresti developed a new aircraft based on the Swift, he called Fury...
His family is looking for funding to start production.
Some numbers:
Max speed (Lycoming IO360) 222 MPH
Cruise speed 215 MPH
Stall Speed (flaps) 54 MPH
Fuel Burn 75% 10.5 GPH
Range (with 45 minute reserve) 1000 SM
Rate of climb (at sea level) 1350 FPM
Engine Lycoming IO 360A1B6
Horsepower 200 HP
Fully aerobatic (exceeds FAA requirements) Ultimate Load 7+G's
Military style HOTAS (Hands On Throttle And Stick)
Curved parallax correction instrument panel
Roller bearing jet design push rod controls
with a Gypsy Major engine....to insure that the engine was working properly you looked at the ground under the engine to insure that it had leaked at least a quart of oil since the last flight....owned two of these in the Philippines, purchased from an Aero Club in Sydney...
British engineering at its finest!Originally posted by paladin:
with a Gypsy Major engine....to insure that the engine was working properly you looked at the ground under the engine to insure that it had leaked at least a quart of oil since the last flight....owned two of these in the Philippines, purchased from an Aero Club in Sydney...
Phil..LoPresti's aircraft was nothing new...all the speed kits were available including the wheel covers and the engine mounts, LoPresti (I seem to recall) bought the rights to the Temco airframe to make the project an exclusive, available only from him option...I bought all my kits from the big aircraft boneyard outfit in colorado...
ACB, my favorite deHaviland
Probably so, Chuck. But LoPresti has an incredible history of making fast airplanes go faster without adding HP.Originally posted by paladin:
Phil..LoPresti's aircraft was nothing new...all the speed kits were available including the wheel covers and the engine mounts, LoPresti (I seem to recall) bought the rights to the Temco airframe to make the project an exclusive, available only from him option...I bought all my kits from the big aircraft boneyard outfit in colorado...
Ah, yes, "Grosvenor House" - the one that was actually faster than a DC2!
But the spiritual ancestor of the Mosquito, of course.
The Grosvenor House Hotel is still there, but "Grosvenor House" the D-H 88 is no longer...
Sorry Fred, I missed out a word.
The word was "flying". She is "taxiable"!
I think the problem is £££!
Meanwhile, a bunch of enthusiasts are busy building a flying replica of the only airliner ever to incorporate a built-in headwind*:
The Handley Page HP 42. Range 500 miles, top speed 105 mph. One of the few long serving airliners with a perfect safety record - well, until WW2, when the RAF took them over, and had wrecked the entire fleet inside a year!
They were actually slower than the Short C class flying boats that they operated alongside, but being made of actual metal they were in a sense quite modern!
* according to Anthony Fokker, who was in a good position to judge!
[ 02-21-2006, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Craig-Bennett ]
damn Andrew...they could double the flying speed by getting rid of all those "flying wires...er...uh...pylons.....talk about built in drag.....
So many of the same dynamic principles at work in both airplanes and boats.Originally posted by Tar Devil:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by John B:
Any pilots I've known seem to be keen sailors as well.
We all remember Dennis Conner's America's Cup defense in the catamaran? Aviation legend Burt Rutan designed and built the sail/wing...
Later,
Phil</font>[/QUOTE]I really lost interest in the cup races, when it got banned.
Well, yes, Chuck, but you could sit comfortably inside whilst trundling slowly along:
and enjoy a four course lunch and an eight course dinner.
Actually, you tended not to. Imperial Airways were not very generous employers, and the aircrew conspired with the cabin crew to route the aircraft through as much turbulence as possible, in the hope that the passengers would not feel hungry and the crew could eat the meals instead!
They were going to be replaced with these:
The DH 91; twice the range and twice the speed, but made of wood! These ended up running a shuttle service to Iceland in the war.
I like the monohulls, but I gotta admit... sure would be exciting to see a bunch of those catamarans beating to windward!!Originally posted by brian.cunningham:
I really lost interest in the cup races, when it got banned.
Later,
Phil
Shades of the Lockheed Constellation! Why innovate when you can steal?Originally posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett:
The DH 91; twice the range and twice the speed, but made of wood! These ended up running a shuttle service to Iceland in the war.
Actually, good innovation is 90% "borrowing"
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