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    So now it's "Christian" to deny life-saving HIV medication?

    Ruling by Texas GOP judge could imperil millions of Americans

    A Texas federal judge has voided Obamacare’s requirements that insurance companies cover the full costs of life-saving HIV prevention and treatment drugs, claiming requiring Christian employers to do so violates their rights under the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).

    In that same ruling on Thursday, U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor, who has a lengthy history of deciding against LGBTQ people and in favor of the far Christian right, also voided requirements insurance companies, under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), cover other life-saving medications and procedures including cancer screenings, mental health services, and diabetes treatments, although for reasons unrelated to religion.

    “In September,” Reuters reports, “O’Connor held that the US Preventive Services Task Force, which determines what qualifies as a covered preventive measure under the ACA, can’t validly do so because its members aren’t subject to Senate confirmation and their recommendations aren’t reviewed by constitutionally appointed government officials.”

    Thursday’s decision is an extension of Judge O’Connor’s September ruling, in the same case, Braidwood Mgmt., Inc. v. Becerra.

    Slate’s legal expert Mark Joseph Stern calls Judge O’Connor’s ruling “nothing short of catastrophic to the U.S. health care system.”

    “Millions of Americans, including many pregnant women, will have to forgo basic care if it is upheld,” he adds.

    The case was brought by Dr. Steven Hotze, a far-right Republican activist and religious extremist who has attacked the LGBTQ community for decades. Last fall The New York Times identified Braidwood Management’s owner as “Dr. Steven F. Hotze, a well-known Republican donor and doctor from Houston, has previously challenged the Affordable Care Act on other grounds.”

    The Times reports in that September ruling in this same case, Judge O’Connor wrote: “The PrEP mandate substantially burdens the religious exercise of Braidwood’s owners.” O’Connor, The Times added, wrote “that Dr. Hotze believes that covering PrEP drugs ‘facilitates and encourages homosexual behavior, intravenous drug use and sexual activity outside of marriage between one man and one woman.'”

    HIV is not exclusive to people who engage in same-sex intimate relations, drug use, or sexual activity outside of marriage between one man and one woman.

    In 2015, Dr. Hotze compared same-sex marriage to the Holocaust and gay people to murderers, defending his belief that Texas should ignore the impending Supreme Court ruling that found same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marriage.

    Just two weeks ago Dr. Hotze was “kicked out of a state senate session,” The Daily Beast reported, “after he called transgender people ‘pedophiles.'”

    “Major medical and patient groups,” Bloomberg Law reported on Thursday, “had argued that a nationwide order would jeopardize health care for millions of Americans, leading to preventable deaths and higher costs for treating diseases that could have been detected earlier by free screenings.”

    According to Forbes, Judge O’Connor’s ruling on Thursday also voids required coverage for other “preventive services,” including “screenings for such cancers as breast cancer, colorectal cancer, cervical cancer and lung cancer, diabetes screenings, various screenings and interventions for pregnant people, statin use to prevent cardiovascular disease, vision screening for children and more.”

    And yet, Judge O’Connor’s decision tossed “other arguments that tried to invalidate the contraceptive mandate in the ACA, so coverage for contraception will remain unaffected by Thursday’s ruling.”

    The Biden Administration is expected to appeal, and according to Forbes because insurance policies are generally in effect for a calendar year, it’s unlikely any possible changes would be implemented before January.

    Meanwhile, Judge O’Connor in 2019 overturned protections written into ObamaCare for transgender people, ruling they violate the religious rights of healthcare providers who hold religious beliefs that oppose the existence of transgender people.

    Three years earlier, in 2016, O’Connor – who at that point already had a record of opposing LGBT rights – handed down a 38-page order in a lawsuit brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on behalf of 13 states, blocking the Obama administration from enforcing its guidance that said public schools should allow transgender students to use restroom and locker rooms based on their gender identity.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...23206c43&ei=26

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/polit...nor/index.html

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...tive-rcna77399

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...h/11569440002/
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    'christians' don't get hiv?

    so much hate in this world
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    'christians' don't get hiv?

    so much hate in this world
    That's the irony. Even he knew he couldn't make it contingent on how a person got it.
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    O'Connor is an extremist of the first rank. He's been doing bullsh!t like this for years.
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    What a piece of work as he actively seeks to unravel Obamacare. Perhaps not covering drugs needed to keep people alive and mental health screenings - he and/or his family may see personally what he has done and be directly affected among the population he lives in.

    In Braidwood Management Inc., et. al. v. Xavier Becerra, et. al., on March 30, 2023, O'Connor sided with conservative employers and individuals in Texas who argued that the Affordable Car Act's provision mandating that businesses provide their employees with free coverage of preventative services including mammograms, colonoscopies, mental health screenings, and the HIV prevention drug PrEP was unconstitutional.
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    I think the majority of HIV infections these days are among injected drug users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David W Pratt View Post
    I think the majority of HIV infections these days are among injected drug users.
    Thats because folks with HIV have nearly undetectable virus counts due to drugs. Once the HIV drugs are removed, anal sex becomes the highly transmittable way to get and die of AIDS. A new generation of gay and bi young men and likely women will die if this order stands. Moreover blood transfusions which we will all need will become more suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David W Pratt View Post
    I think the majority of HIV infections these days are among injected drug users.
    And?
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    according to the cdc: young gay and bisexual men accounted for 84% of new hiv infections
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    There is a difference between saying that insurers cannot be forced to do the right thing and insurers not doing the right thing.

    Perhaps the insurers will continue to offer the required drugs and treatment to remain competitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    There is a difference between saying that insurers cannot be forced to do the right thing and insurers not doing the right thing.

    Perhaps the insurers will continue to offer the required drugs and treatment to remain competitive.
    Do you think Hobby Lobby will? Not likely as some other Christian based organizations either.

    Makes you wonder if they will stop paying for old man boner pills. That would be a strike against Christian marriage rights and God's gifts of plenty.

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    Whether it's gays or drug users or whatever, I think the takeaway is that this judge has made a value of life decision. There is the presumption of "Not someone I care about" that is masked by a highly objectionable claim of religion. What I don't know, and suspect is not the case, is whether premiums will be reduced by this measure. In other words, it is not motivated by finances. I suspect it is motivated by personal objection to a life style not their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    There is a difference between saying that insurers cannot be forced to do the right thing and insurers not doing the right thing.

    Perhaps the insurers will continue to offer the required drugs and treatment to remain competitive.
    Right. Insurance companies do the right thing? Competition is purely price.

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    I said you should have let Santa Anna have it……………….

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    I held the opinion some years back that all businesses that hire people should have to follow all labor laws. Religious beliefs and such ought not be given a pass.

    I don't think a judge ought to able to overturn something passed by congress and signed by a president. Judges are supposed to enforce laws, not re-write them.
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    Nothing like religious bigots who are so deeply against freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Right. Insurance companies do the right thing? Competition is purely price.

    Wanna buy a bridge?
    And yet, individuals and businesses shop around for the coverage they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    Do you think Hobby Lobby will? Not likely as some other Christian based organizations either.
    Perhaps the people who work there will not care.
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    TLT seemingly has nailed his position more firmly to the mast recently.

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    Someone ought to start a thread about religious interference.
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