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Three kids dead. This has to stop.
"Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono
"Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers
"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx
America! What a country!
Every minute of every day, someone in America is caressing a gun and wondering what it would be like to shoot people.
“Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles and see the world is moving" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
From the article linked in the OP:
According to data compiled by Education Week, there were 12 school shootings in 2023 through 23 March that have resulted in deaths or injuries in the US
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.
If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.
"Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
Bruce Cockburn
Your average American does give a flying f£uck about kids!
Skip
---This post is delivered with righteous passion and with a solemn southern directness --
...........fighting against the deliberate polarization of politics...
3 kids, 3 adults dead. The shooter is described as a teenaged female, carrying two assault rifles and a handgun.
Could this be the first mass shooting by a female?
Edited to add: this is not the first instance of a female shooter, although one expert said it is exceptionally rare.
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"Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."
There was a girl who shot kids in a school in Texas, around 1980 or so, and when asked why she said “I don’t like Mondays”.
I’m sure this latest shooter was just one of the “well regulated militia”, right?
1979, a girl shot kids in a schoolyard in SoCal. She did it because she didn’t like Mondays. A song was written about it.
“Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles and see the world is moving" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
Boring. (sarcasm)
Why does it seem to get worse? I almost think it's because so many of us seem to tolerate it.
What do I mean by "tolerate it?" I can't say exactly, but I was just looking at "shootings" in general and I found these numbers:
NY City population: 8.8 million (in 5 boroughs)
2022 shootings: 1294
Portland Or population: 646,396 (greater metro area 2.2 million)
2022 shootings: 1308
Are these numbers inaccurate? Is there a reporting issue? Is there something I'm missing? Is a population of 8.8 million in one part of the country so very different from less than a million in another part of the country? If there is a difference, what is it, and does it affect these shooting statistics.
I think the guvna recently signed a bill allowing teenagers to open carry, cuz, freedom.
Can’t wait for Marsha Blackburn to offer prayers.
https://www.wkrn.com/news/tennessee-...carry-tn-laws/
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Yes, too many of us do 'tolerate it'. By 'it'... I mean the core issue. Concentration of wealth and power at the top.
School shootings, and gun violence are but one facet of the rising social dysfunction brought on by a society/economy Out Of Balance. There are MANY facets: homelessness; food insecurity; xenophobia; turmoil in the public schools; protectionism; political corruption; lack of affordable housing; etc. --
"When there is an accumulation of money and power into fewer and fewer hands, people with the mentality of gangsters come to the fore. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton
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"It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)
"Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono
"Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers
"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx
Face it, we've accepted it.
It's all about having the right role models
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There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.
I’m going to put the internet down for a bit.
How many kids have been killed in Nashville from Drag Shows ?
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Sir Bob Geldof and the Boomtown Rats' "I Don't Like Mondays"
The silicon chip inside her head
Gets switched to overload
And nobody's gonna go to school today
She's gonna make them stay at home
And daddy doesn't understand it
He always said she was good as gold
And he can see no reasons
'Cause there are no reasons
What reason do you need to be shown?
I don't like Mondays
(Tell me why)
I don't like Mondays
(Tell me why)
I don't like Mondays
I wanna shoot the whole day down
The Telex machine is kept so clean
And it types to a waiting world
Her mother feels so shocked, father's world is rocked
And their thoughts turn to their own little girl
Sweet sixteen, ain't that peachy keen
Now it ain't so neat to admit defeat
They can see no reasons
'Cause there are no reasons
What reasons do you need, oh oh oh oh?
I don't like Mondays
(Tell me why)
I don't like Mondays
(Tell me why)
I don't like Mondays
I wanna shoot the whole day down
Down, down, shoot it all down
And all the playing's stopped in the playground now
She wants to play with the toys a while
And school's out early and soon we be learning
And the lesson today is how to die
And then the bullhorn crackles and the captain tackles
With the problems and the hows and whys
And he can see no reasons
'Cause there are no reasons
What reason do you need to die, die, oh oh oh?
The silicon chip inside her head
Gets switched to overload
And nobody's gonna go to school today
She's gonna make them stay at home
And daddy doesn't understand it
He always said she was good as gold
And he can see no reasons
'Cause there are no reasons
What reason do you need to be shown?
I don't like Mondays
(Tell me why)
I don't like Mondays
(Tell me why)
I don't like
I don't like
(Tell me why)
I don't like Mondays
(Tell me why)
I don't like
I don't like
(Tell me why)
I don't like Mondays
(Tell me why)
I don't like Mondays
I wanna shoot the whole day down
"Unrepentant Reprobate"
Lew Barrett
David G
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"It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)
The latest revelation is the shooter was not a teen...she's 28 years old.
"Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."
Then a blanket statement would be misleading. Some have... for now... certainly TOO MANY... and some haven't. Just like, for a long time, too many tolerated lack of female suffrage. Or agreed with Prohibition. Or allow the ban on gay marriages. Or many other forms of inequity and dysfunction.
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"It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)
So all of those factors are significantly different in Portland, Or as compared to NY City, and that explains more shootings in Portland than NY City, even though Portland has less than one twelfth of the population of NY City??????????
I would suggest that a failed system of governance is the problem, and that recovery will be difficult to implement with a population that has yet to fully find the status quo intolerable ( more and more of them are finding it intolerable, I'll give you that).
It's cultural. Donn told me.
Is it time for a permanent T&P thread yet?
We all know damn well who's to blame. You know it's the NRA. You know it's Republicans who are blocking sane gun reform.
At best, they ignore these murders. At worst, they LOVE them — because talk of gun reform will come up, and that INCREASES gun sales.
Either way, blood is on their hands. And the rest of us are filled with rage.
"They have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people." -- James Carville on the plethora of low-quality GQP candidates in the mid-term election.
I ask you to join me. Write all your media; papers, radio, tv and beg them to keep a running total daily of gun deaths year to date. Papers can have a little block on the front page that updates the number daily. TV can have a small block in the corner of the screen as they do with countdown clocks before some event. Radio would be a bit difficult, but I'm sure they could find a few seconds here and there to just give the number of people killed by guns so far this year.
I believe that is one way to get more support for doing something about it.
"Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book
93% NRA approval ratingSen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) responded to the deadly shooting at the Covenant School in Nashville that left six people dead, including three children, with a statement on Twitter saying her office is ready to assist local officials, and to “join us in prayer for those affected.”
Why do we even bother with these threads?
Evil has won over good.
The GOP fully condones dead children lying dead in our schools.
The McConnell Supreme Court will never, ever allow any gun laws.
All we can do is weep and bury our dead.
I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.
Skiing is the next best thing to having wings.
A country where armed police are placed in schools to prevent children being shot there, where poverty is chronic, where drug addiction is through the roof, living in fear of China. A paranoid country with no self-respect where fault always lies elsewhere.
There used to be a bumper sticker with a picture of a stegosaurus and the caption "Too much armour, not enough brains".
Rick
Lean and nosey like a ferret
"Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book