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    How does the Republican Party manage this?

    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/wa...tional-anthem/

    Ted Nugent performed at Donald Trump’s Saturday rally in Waco, Texas where the rocker dubbed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a “homosexual weirdo.”

    In a rant on taxes, Nugent screamed about multiple things the federal government is paying for that he’s not in approval of, including supporting Ukraine while the country continues to fight off an invasion by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    “I want my money back! I didn’t authorize any money to Ukraine to some homosexual weirdo!” Nugent yelled. “I want my money back!”

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    Wacko rally.

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    Wackos in Waco, sez it all.
    Last edited by Bobby of Tulsa; 03-26-2023 at 12:22 PM.
    "para todo mal, mezcal, y para todo bien también" (for everything bad, mezcal, and for everything good, as well.)

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    The gutless Republican Party will stand idly by and do nothing.
    They either agree with him or are too scared of him.

    Trump's Waco rally was a huge bullhorn calling every far-right wacko to take up the fight against the
    United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    The gutless Republican Party will stand idly by and do nothing.
    They either agree with him or are too scared of him.

    Trump's Waco rally was a huge bullhorn calling every far-right wacko to take up the fight against the
    United States.
    Oh, they will reject him one election AFTER the Republican voters reject him. They are followers, not leaders, looking to advance themselves.
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    Ed Kilgore this morning. Trump is getting more and more deranged every day.

    Donald Trump Thinks America Is a Sh!thole Country
    In Waco, he denounced America more than any alleged super-patriot ever.
    By Ed Kilgore, political columnist for Intelligencer since 2015

    At the end of a week in which Donald J. Trump threatened a wave of “death and destruction” if he was arrested, it was not considered a good sign that he was ending it with a rally in Waco, Texas, near the 30th anniversary of the fiery FBI siege of a religious cult’s compound that made the city infamous. Would he declare war on U.S. law enforcement, comparing his alleged persecution to that of the Branch Davidians in Waco and of various right-wing militia figures elsewhere? Or might he just raise the temperature of the political system enough that violence could break out by spontaneous combustion?

    Not exactly. Most of his address was more like an exercise in the banality of apocalyptism. After the former president took the stage, he stood with his hand over his heart while the PA system blasted “Justice for All” — the new single Trump released featuring him reciting the Pledge of Allegiance backed by a choir of imprisoned January 6 rioters singing the “Star Spangled Banner.” In his speech, he warned that the 2024 presidential election was America’s “final battle.” He raged at the prosecutors (“absolute human scum”) who are threatening him. He expressed his usual contempt for political enemies, ranging from the “Communists and Marxists” of the Democratic Party to the “globalists and RINOs” of his own party. And he continued his drive-by attacks on potential rival Ron DeSantis, highlighting the Florida governor’s disloyalty to him and hostility to farmers and retirees.

    Then at the end, as his closing music swelled, Trump offered the most scorching, systematic denunciation of his country any alleged super-patriot has ever delivered. It made the famously dark “American Carnage” inaugural address of 2017 seem like something from Sesame Street. The climax of Trump’s 2024 stump speech is pitch-black doom and gloom:

    "We are a failing nation. We are a nation with the highest inflation rate in 50 years, where banks are collapsing and interest rates are far too high. We are a nation where energy costs have reached their highest level in our history. … We are a nation that is consumed by the radical left’s new deal … [that] everyone knows … will lead to our destruction."

    And America’s horribleness infects others:

    "We are a nation that surrendered in Afghanistan, leaving behind dead soldiers, American citizens, and 85 billion dollars of the finest military equipment anywhere. We are a nation that allowed Russia to devastate a country, Ukraine, killing hundreds of thousands of people, and it will only get worse. … Taiwan will be next."

    Freedom, meanwhile, has all but been extinguished:

    "We are a nation that is hostile to liberty, freedom, and faith. We are a nation whose economy has collapsed … whose stores are not stocked, whose deliveries are not coming, and whose educational system is at the very bottom of every single list. Large packs of sadistic criminals and thieves are able to systemically rob stores and beat up their customers and workers and leave with armloads of goods with no retribution. … Where the authority of our great police has been taken, where their families and patient — and pensions have been threatened, and their lives were being destroyed because of the the mere mention of the words law enforcement. … Fentanyl and illegal drugs are more easy to get than formula for our babies. . . . We are a nation that no longer has a free and fair press. Fake news is all you get, and they are the enemy of the people. We are a nation where free speech is no longer allowed. "

    And oh my God, the airports are like those of, well, ****hole countries:

    "[We are] a nation where once great airports are dirty, they are a crowded mass, you sit and wait for hours and then are notified that the plane won’t leave and they have no idea when it will … where ticket prices have tripled, they do not have the pilot to fly the plane, and they do not have qualified air traffic controllers, and they just do not know what what the hell they are doing."

    Worst of all, the president is not Donald Trump:

    "[W]e have a man who is the worst president in the history of our country. Who is cognitively impaired, in no condition to lead. And is now casually talking about nuclear war with Russia. He has no idea what he is even talking about. We are a nation that lost its confidence, willpower, and strength. We are a nation that has lost its way. We are not going to allow this horror to continue. Two years ago, we were a great nation, and we will soon be a great nation again. We will liberate America from these villains and tyrants who are looking to destroy our country no matter what they throw at us, no matter what they do to us, we will not bend, we will not break, we will not yield. we will never give in, we will never give up, we will never ever back down."

    No wonder this man who surrounds himself with flags began this address with a recording of him leading convicted and imprisoned insurrectionists in the national anthem. Trump can no longer present himself as someone storming into a broken political system to reverse many decades of failure and decay; he’s claiming this unbelievable near-destruction of the United States has happened in just the past two years, and that destruction will be complete by 2024 if he’s not returned to power. No wonder he can never accept defeat. It’s not his country at all if he loses.
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    This morning’s talking heads are saying he is building a lead over DeSantis. There is a real possibility he could be President again. It’s already scaring the crap outta me. Underestimate him at our peril. We already did that once.

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    Those Confederate airfields were certainly rubbish...

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    “I want my money back! I didn’t authorize any money to Ukraine to some homosexual weirdo!” Nugent yelled. “I want my money back!”

    the irony.. that's what we said about the war he (literally) shlt his pants to stay out of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    How does the Republican Party manage this?

    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/wa...tional-anthem/
    FOX, Newsmax, and right wing radio.
    "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    The gutless Republican Party will stand idly by and do nothing.
    They either agree with him or are too scared of him.

    Trump's Waco rally was a huge bullhorn calling every far-right wacko to take up the fight against the
    United States.
    They're scared of his voters. My guess is they feel they can't win a primary if they turn on Trump. Ironically, I'm not sure Trump supported candidates can win many actual elections.
    "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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    The GOP gets just as worked up about BLM, etc. rallies as those who object to their Waco one.
    For the most part experience is making the same mistakes over and over again, only with greater confidence.

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    Poor Waco. The local Chamber of Commerce has successfully shaken off the cult vibe, thanks in great part to the success of Chip and Joanna Gaines, TV real estate flippers. My sons in-laws are in Dallas and he was told that visitors always want a side trip to shop in Waco.

    Thanks, Trump, for returning the Waco Cult vibe.
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    This Waco rally is better.

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    Thank you Mr. Hadfield,

    That pretty little city on the Brazos does not need the tRump stain.

    Side note:
    saw this on nextdoor just up the road from Waco

    Last night the Killeen Police Department gave their 90 day report on Killeen’s marijuana decriminalization ordinance, better known as Prop A. It was an excellent report. Of 188 people who were involved in incidents involving marijuana less than 4 oz, 42 people were arrested and 146 people were released w no arrest. The 42 people arrested were involved in other serious crime or had outstanding warrants. Our decrim ordinance is working. That is 146 people w no arrest record and no criminal conviction that would haunt them the rest of their lives. 70% of the voters in Killeen clearly stated that our current state law is unjust. Our legislators need to catch up w the people of Texas on this issue. ����

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    https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/...67188035166210

    Look at the clips from Israel. Hundreds of thousands of people in the streets defending their version of democracy from Netanyahu's version of fascism. Where he picks the Supreme Court, to keep himself safe from prosecution.

    If you think the same energy isn't needed in America, you're asleep.

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    My friend Ollie won a free pass to the Museum Of Flight by knowing that WACO stood for Weaver Airplane Company Of Ohio.
    Or maybe it was Webster, my own memory ain’t so good.
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    HI Dave- Yes, nice airplanes but, as you probably know, down here one place is "Wayco" and the other is "Whacko". One is in Ohio and the other Texas.

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    To the editor:

    In addressing political polarization, columnist Jean Guerrero recommends that we have "more faith in our ability to connect with the other." The implication is that chasms can be bridged between Democrats and Republicans. "The only other options," she writes, "are national divorce or civil war."

    Guerrero also acknowledges, "The two sides are not equally situated — Republicans have moved farther to the right than Democrats have to the left, and right-wing extremists are the most likely to embrace violence.”

    She cites other differences, but fails to point out the biggest: The former president attempted to overthrow the 2020 election, and he still has a lot of support. Many members of Congress, all Republicans, voted against certifying President Biden's victory. Just last month, a Republican lawmaker actually proposed a national divorce.

    As there is no common ground between arsonists and firefighters, a constructive conversation is not possible between those who value democracy, the Constitution and the rule of law, and those who do not.

    Guerrero's aspiration is noble, but her effort will fail as long as members of one tribe do not accept the principles on which the nation is governed.

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    DJ Trump, replaying his Greatest Hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    How does the Republican Party manage this?

    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/wa...tional-anthem/
    Stupid is the only logical explanation

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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    To the editor:

    In addressing political polarization, columnist Jean Guerrero recommends that we have "more faith in our ability to connect with the other." The implication is that chasms can be bridged between Democrats and Republicans. "The only other options," she writes, "are national divorce or civil war."

    Guerrero also acknowledges, "The two sides are not equally situated — Republicans have moved farther to the right than Democrats have to the left, and right-wing extremists are the most likely to embrace violence.”

    She cites other differences, but fails to point out the biggest: The former president attempted to overthrow the 2020 election, and he still has a lot of support. Many members of Congress, all Republicans, voted against certifying President Biden's victory. Just last month, a Republican lawmaker actually proposed a national divorce.

    As there is no common ground between arsonists and firefighters, a constructive conversation is not possible between those who value democracy, the Constitution and the rule of law, and those who do not.

    Guerrero's aspiration is noble, but her effort will fail as long as members of one tribe do not accept the principles on which the nation is governed.

    Mike Diehl, Glendale
    “ I want my money back! I didn’t authorize any money to Ukraine to some homosexual weirdo!” Nugent yelled. “I want my money back!”

    Exactly. This sentiment from an entertainer and cultural icon speaks for itself. It doesn’t require a label.

    Btw I disagree that normalized abuse leads to national divorce or civil war. It can simply be an abusive relationship that no one can get out of.

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    It's worse than you think.

    At Trump's rally in Waco texas, on the anniversary of the end of Koresh's Branch Davidian cult, he stood on the stage with his hand over his heart reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, over a recording of The Star Spangled Banner sung by 20-odd folks convicted in the Jan 6th attack on the capitol, while playing footage of the attack. Now this may be the last desperate thrashings of a senile old narcissist whose time has past, before he gets sent off to prison - or maybe not,

    You can't make this sh!t up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Exactly. This sentiment from an entertainer and cultural icon speaks for itself. It doesn’t require a label.
    Not much of one in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    It's worse than you think.
    Told ya. I was right, I called it, you denied it. Have mercy on a poor soul and say it. Go back. 20 f ing years. Chimp squad, pre-emptive war, torture . . . you remember.

    Here we are. Told ya. Say it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    It's worse than you think.

    At Trump's rally in Waco texas, on the anniversary of the end of Koresh's Branch Davidian cult, he stood on the stage with his hand over his heart reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, over a recording of The Star Spangled Banner sung by 20-odd folks convicted in the Jan 6th attack on the capitol, while playing footage of the attack. Now this may be the last desperate thrashings of a senile old narcissist whose time has past, before he gets sent off to prison - or maybe not,

    You can't make this sh!t up.
    I wonder how many senators, if they had it to do over, would o vote to convict.
    "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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    Apparently he also dumped in his diaper during the screech, and the stench was so powerful that people moved away from him as fast as they could (After the obligatory photo op).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    It's worse than you think.

    At Trump's rally in Waco texas, on the anniversary of the end of Koresh's Branch Davidian cult, he stood on the stage with his hand over his heart reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, over a recording of The Star Spangled Banner sung by 20-odd folks convicted in the Jan 6th attack on the capitol, while playing footage of the attack. Now this may be the last desperate thrashings of a senile old narcissist whose time has past, before he gets sent off to prison - or maybe not,

    You can't make this sh!t up.
    wow, anyway TFG will fade away and this will all be forgotten. Interesting times fer sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    It's worse than you think.

    At Trump's rally in Waco texas, on the anniversary of the end of Koresh's Branch Davidian cult, he stood on the stage with his hand over his heart reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, over a recording of The Star Spangled Banner sung by 20-odd folks convicted in the Jan 6th attack on the capitol, while playing footage of the attack. Now this may be the last desperate thrashings of a senile old narcissist whose time has past, before he gets sent off to prison - or maybe not,

    You can't make this sh!t up.
    It took awhile for this to sink in. TFG is campaigning on the Jan 6 violence. Doubling down. A former president and political figure supported by many Republicans in Congress is campaigning on the Jan 6 violence. Not just fear of the other, not just appeals to authoritarianism and undermining institutions of national security, not just the self delusion of being “Strong On Defense”, not just white Christian nationalism. But violence. And the GOP says “oops”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith wilson View Post
    ed kilgore this morning. Trump is getting more and more deranged every day.
    o - m - f - g

    “justice for all” — the new single trump released featuring him reciting the pledge of allegiance backed by a choir of imprisoned january 6 rioters singing the “star spangled banner.”
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    It took awhile for this to sink in. TFG is campaigning on the Jan 6 violence.
    Seems like it. A fairly large section of the US right wing and the Republican party has actually turned against democracy. We can quibble about whether 'fascist' is the correct term or not, but it's pretty bad.

    And Osborne, I don't remember exactly what we wrote back then, but I'm certainly no better at predicting the future than any other mortal.

    Washington Monthly has a long article on John Eastman, documenting how a fairly standard conservative law professor turned completely against any semblance of popular sovereignty as the basis for government. Not pleasant reading.
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    Yeah, on the screen are images of Jan 6 rioters while TFG says the Pledge and the Jan6 rioters sing about the rockets red glare. All this on the 20th anniversary of the Waco siege where anti-gov’t violence is celebrated by militant white nationalists.

    No more dog whistles, no catapulting the propaganda. All this promoted by a former president of the US. A practice run for a real politician after TFG trips on a cheeseburger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Seems like it. A fairly large section of the US right wing and the Republican party has actually turned against democracy. We can quibble about whether 'fascist' is the correct term or not, but it's pretty bad.

    And Osborne, I don't remember exactly what we wrote back then, but I'm certainly no better at predicting the future than any other mortal.

    Washington Monthly has a long article on John Eastman, documenting how a fairly standard conservative law professor turned completely against any semblance of popular sovereignty as the basis for government. Not pleasant reading.
    You have to realize that these people get their "news' from source that lie to them.
    "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Yeah, on the screen are images of Jan 6 rioters while TFG says the Pledge and the Jan6 rioters sing about the rockets red glare. All this on the 20th anniversary of the Waco siege where anti-gov’t violence is celebrated by militant white nationalists.

    No more dog whistles, no catapulting the propaganda. All this promoted by a former president of the US. A practice run for a real politician after TFG trips on a cheeseburger.
    SOMEBODY needs to point out Trump COULD HAVE PARDONED those who attacked the Capital. He chose not to.
    "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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