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    Default Stop saying you researched it.

    Because, likely, you didn't. In fact, few of us have the time to actually research any number of issues. We're lucky if we manage to do so with a few, closely related, issues that we've taken a particular long-term (and intellectually rigorous) interest in.

    But we can do casual research, if we start with a hypothesis... which we accept may be right, wrong, or partly each. And if we follow the skeptical spirit of the actual research process --


    Please stop saying you researched it.

    You didn’t research anything and it is highly probable you don’t know how to do so.

    Did you compile a literature review and write abstracts on each article? Or better yet, did you collect a random sample of sources and perform independent probability statistics on the reported results? No?

    Did you at least take each article one by one and look into the source (that would be the author, publisher and funder), then critique the writing for logical fallacies, cognitive distortions and plain inaccuracies?

    Did you ask yourself why this source might publish these particular results?

    Did you follow the trail of references and apply the same source of scrutiny to them?

    No? Then you didn’t … research anything. You read or watched a video, most likely with little or no objectivity. You came across something in your algorithm manipulated feed, something that jived with your implicit biases and served your confirmation bias, and subconsciously applied your emotional filters and called it proof.

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    Default Re: Stop saying you researched it.

    fart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    fart
    I will NOT argue your expertise on that topic...
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    Nice synopsis, David. Yep - it's exhausting. After the latest go-round here, I immediately ran into a pt of a similar bent, who proceeded to lecture me on DMII and txments. I gave him Ted's number.
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    Default Re: Stop saying you researched it.

    The original source omitted examining the materials and methods (0r equivalent) section.

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    Default Re: Stop saying you researched it.

    Nah. 'Research' isn't binary; it's something you can do a little of or a lot, well or badly. Looking it up in Wikipedia is 'research'. So is working for five years looking up every bit of human knowledge about something.
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    I learned how to cure myself from farting using WebMD. Glad to have that resource. Thank goodness as to see my general practitioner requires 4 months to get an appointment. There was no copay involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Nah. 'Research' isn't binary; it's something you can do a little of or a lot, well or badly. Looking it up in Wikipedia is 'research'. So is working for five years looking up every bit of human knowledge about something.

    thank you keith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    I learned how to cure myself from farting using WebMD. Glad to have that resource. There was no copay involved.

    oh there will be a payment due
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    I learned how to cure myself from farting using WebMD. Glad to have that resource. Thank goodness as to see my general practitioner requires 4 months to get an appointment. There was no copay involved.
    Actually, I have researched that issue at length including using my own body as a "guinea pig" and you might be on to something, I am convinced fart is in fact diet related
    exercise however, can worsen the condition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Nah. 'Research' isn't binary; it's something you can do a little of or a lot, well or badly. Looking it up in Wikipedia is 'research'. So is working for five years looking up every bit of human knowledge about something.
    As the OP states... we can do casual research. But that's harder to do 'well'.
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    Default Re: Stop saying you researched it.

    I Googled it so piss off.

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    Default Re: Stop saying you researched it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Nah. 'Research' isn't binary; it's something you can do a little of or a lot, well or badly. Looking it up in Wikipedia is 'research'. So is working for five years looking up every bit of human knowledge about something.
    What is more interesting is that few people use the term "research".

    I did watch a video on backpacking stoves yesterday. The fellow did a nice set of experiments. In prior videos he talked about the compilation of nutritional data for backpacking foods.

    I don't do much research, but I do learn a lot from people with expertise that they share on youtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    Actually, I have researched that issue at length including using my own body as a "guinea pig" and you might be on to something, I am convinced fart is in fact diet related
    exercise however, can worsen the condition
    'Worsen the condition'?
    Meaning you stop farting,or you fart more?
    Or they smell worse,or ...better(lilacs,!??)

    Questions that depend on a point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    As the OP states... we can do casual research. But that's harder to do 'well'.
    Depends on the subject. If you want to know the date of the battle of Antietam and who won, a quick check of Wikipedia or something similar will be fine. If you want to have a fairly clear idea about the link between type II diabetes and behavior, it will take more work, and your degree of confidence in what you find can vary a lot. Again, not binary at all.
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    Default Re: Stop saying you researched it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Nah. 'Research' isn't binary; it's something you can do a little of or a lot, well or badly. Looking it up in Wikipedia is 'research'. So is working for five years looking up every bit of human knowledge about something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    thank you keith
    yes, thank you.

    wondering if maybe the op might have been able to recognize this reality with a bit of, dare I say it, research?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    I learned how to cure myself from farting using WebMD. Glad to have that resource. Thank goodness as to see my general practitioner requires 4 months to get an appointment. There was no copay involved.
    Stopped farting? What's the fun in that?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Depends on the subject. If you want to know the date of the battle of Antietam and who won, a quick check of Wikipedia or something similar will be fine. If you want to have a fairly clear idea about the link between type II diabetes and behavior, it will take more work, and your degree of confidence in what you find can vary a lot. Again, not binary at all.
    how long before red states ban wikipedia? the internet in its entirety?
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    Default Re: Stop saying you researched it.

    Come to think of it, I guess I spent over thirty years of my working life as a "researcher" in the business and government sectors. I used to think of it more as being an adviser... but all that advice was based on research. Look at that, I've learnt something new today.
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    I had a patient recently that decided he'd be better off self-treating his rectal cancer with febendazole... I'll be waiting for the ER to call me when he comes in obstructed.

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    dumbass
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    ^ not you of course, mr p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    how long before red states ban wikipedia? the internet in its entirety?
    I've actually donated, via their pop-requests, multiple times.
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    I’ve been “researching” farts for many years now. I would say by now I have the equivalent to a doctorate in flatulence. Some of the more famous of fart types are the Freep, the Bloop, and the Left Cheek Sneak.

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    Default Re: Stop saying you researched it.

    Does "did you collect a random sample of sources and perform independent probability statistics on the reported results?"[OP] mean anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian McColgin View Post
    Does "did you collect a random sample of sources and perform independent probability statistics on the reported results?"[OP] mean anything?
    I'm not quite sure how to "perform independent probability statistics"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Boy View Post
    I’ve been “researching” farts for many years now. I would say by now I have the equivalent to a doctorate in flatulence. Some of the more famous of fart types are the Freep, the Bloop, and the Left Cheek Sneak.
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    Way back at school some of the boys did extensive research on how to produce the most aromatic farts with the least amount of sound, and would quietly leave the room.
    However the best I ever came across were from a cattle dog that fed mostly on roadkill or some such found game. Then it was you that had to leave the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkrone View Post
    I had a patient recently that decided he'd be better off self-treating his rectal cancer with febendazole... I'll be waiting for the ER to call me when he comes in obstructed.
    I hear stories from my sis in law, a nurse in Dallas. And of course, her hubby is a bit off the rails re: covid, politics in general. Curious your sense - is Texas a lot crazier than the rest of the country, in terms of medical care, self-directing? See quite a bit of it here. I used to 'discuss' with these folks. Now I just say 'let me know how it goes!'
    There's a lot of things they didn't tell me when I signed on with this outfit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    I hear stories from my sis in law, a nurse in Dallas. And of course, her hubby is a bit off the rails re: covid, politics in general. Curious your sense - is Texas a lot crazier than the rest of the country, in terms of medical care, self-directing? See quite a bit of it here. I used to 'discuss' with these folks. Now I just say 'let me know how it goes!'
    Oh yeah. Plenty of ivermectin/anti-mask true believers around here. The febendazole was a new one for me. I hardly saw any non-traditional medical care choosers until covid. It seems to have enabled innumerable idiots...

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    anecdotal evidence and personal experience suggests pulling someone's finger is likely to lead to a fart. Since I am not a doctor, i can not determine if that is causal. But as a layperson I will suggest they have a relationship. In a tangential point, it seems it also makes the owner of said pulled finger giggle also possibly related in the flatulence release.

    Perhaps this should become a Ted Talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Williamson View Post
    'Worsen the condition'?
    Meaning you stop farting,or you fart more?
    Or they smell worse,or ...better(lilacs,!??)

    Questions that depend on a point of view.
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    I will suggest you do your own research...

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    It ain't research unless you document it,so ....a lifetime wasted.
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    You know the definition of a contrarian, don't you? I do, because I researched it!
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