What has Trump done for those who still support him?

[John Smith]

He chose NOT to pardon the people who stormed the Capital.

He did pass tax cuts for the wealthy; not sure how that helps most of his supporters.

He did pass the bill that eliminated safeguards that would have prevented current bank problems.

He did give the very wealthy a tax cut.

He did separate families at the border

None of these things, IMO, have helped the majority of people who strongly support him.

What am I missing?

[Paul Pless]

he hurt the right people

pwn the libs

dse

[paxtonm]

Just asked the same question last week. There are true believers here, and they tend to be very concentrated in pockets of poverty and misery. Mossy mobile homes covered in blue tarps proudly flying the banner of the True Believers. And after giving it way too much thought, here's what I think it is: Trump's gift is Trump and sowing the seeds of fear. Otherwise, why are we still talking about the most corrupt, ineffectual president in the history of this nation? And fear? The immigrants are taking your jobs and coming for your daughters. They flood the country with drugs. Racists are fine people. They'll raise your taxes and take away your guns.

So, Trump might be an unmitigated disaster, but at least he'll let me live my life thinking it's someone else's fault that the world left me standing at the curb.

[Nicholas Scheuer]

Trump hates blacks as well as other minorities, and woke, and Obama, and other Dems,environmental regulations, and lots of stuff too numerous to mention, just like them.

[Too Little Time]

He did pass the bill that eliminated safeguards that would have prevented current bank problems.

None of these things, IMO, have helped the majority of people who strongly support him.

What am I missing?

What you usually miss.

The current bank problems result from decisions that were made in 2008 or there about. In particular, counting sovereign debt at maturity value rather than market value. The problems seem to be world wide - outside of the influence of a US president. But then that assumes that the banking system has problems. It is not yet clear. Most of the economic damage has been to bank share holders. Not so much to depositors.

Trump did a great deal to move the federal judiciary to the far right. That makes a lot of people happy. Abortion. Gun rights. Traditional gender definitions. Biden has failed to undo any of that.

But perhaps a big point is that he was reviled by the Democrats.

You might recall the chart that was frequently posted here: ways the Democratic presidents have outperformed economically the Republican presidents. All of points on that chart benefited the rich much more than those who the Democrats want as voters. One might ask what the Democrats did for the poor - where they have not done a lot more for the rich.

[LeeG]

Just asked the same question last week. There are true believers here, and they tend to be very concentrated in pockets of poverty and misery. Mossy mobile homes covered in blue tarps proudly flying the banner of the True Believers. And after giving it way too much thought, here's what I think it is: Trump's gift is Trump and sowing the seeds of fear. Otherwise, why are we still talking about the most corrupt, ineffectual president in the history of this nation? And fear? The immigrants are taking your jobs and coming for your daughters. They flood the country with drugs. Racists are fine people. They'll raise your taxes and take away your guns.

So, Trump might be an unmitigated disaster, but at least he'll let me live my life thinking it's someone else's fault that the world left me standing at the curb.

yup

[John Smith]

What you usually miss.

The current bank problems result from decisions that were made in 2008 or there about. In particular, counting sovereign debt at maturity value rather than market value. The problems seem to be world wide - outside of the influence of a US president. But then that assumes that the banking system has problems. It is not yet clear. Most of the economic damage has been to bank share holders. Not so much to depositors.

Trump did a great deal to move the federal judiciary to the far right. That makes a lot of people happy. Abortion. Gun rights. Traditional gender definitions. Biden has failed to undo any of that.

But perhaps a big point is that he was reviled by the Democrats.

You might recall the chart that was frequently posted here: ways the Democratic presidents have outperformed economically the Republican presidents. All of points on that chart benefited the rich much more than those who the Democrats want as voters. One might ask what the Democrats did for the poor - where they have not done a lot more for the rich.

So he made it possible for anyone who wishes to keep a pregnancy to do so? When did Dodd/Frank get gutted?

[Tom Montgomery]

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All who have so far responded to the op are correct.

A large minority of Americans LIKE the political positions and policies Donald Trump pushed. You may ask, if they are a minority, how did he get elected? Well... our Electoral College system allows Republicans to win national elections despite losing the popular vote. In fact, in the last 25 years there have been 9 presidential elections and only 2 Republicans have won the popular vote (George H.W. Bush in 1988 and George W. Bush in 2004).

[Tom Hunter]

I think the question underestimates people's ability to project their dreams onto a leader. Once someone decides that a particular leader is going to make things better for them they tend to ignore evidence to the contrary. So it does not matter what the leader does, what matters is inside their own head.

[JayInOz]

See that woman on Youtube a couple of days ago in a queue to hear his election pitch. Feller asked her what she missed most about trump as president. She replied truth and honesty. I shakes me 'ead. JayInOz

[John Smith]

See that woman on Youtube a couple of days ago in a queue to hear his election pitch. Feller asked her what she missed most about trump as president. She replied truth and honesty. I shakes me 'ead. JayInOz

That kind of says it all. What's more frightening than people thinking this man is honest, and they knew he'd lost several lawsuits because he'd been dishonest.

[Too Little Time]

So he made it possible for anyone who wishes to keep a pregnancy to do so? When did Dodd/Frank get gutted?

I thought you knew history of abortion and the positions of the parties and who appointed the Supreme Court Justices. If you are lacking on knowledge, the internet has all manner of information.

While you might think the lack of Frank-Dodd had something to do with the SVB problems, you might read up on why government bonds are valued at face value rather than market value and then read any of the opinions as to how that caused the problems. I don't believe Frank-Dodd would have changed anything.

[Puttputt]

I think the question underestimates people's ability to project their dreams onto a leader. Once someone decides that a particular leader is going to make things better for them they tend to ignore evidence to the contrary. So it does not matter what the leader does, what matters is inside their own head.

I have Think you’ve hit the nail on the head Tom

[David G]

I have Think you’ve hit the nail on the head Tom

Yes, his primary talent is demagoguery. That has to do mostly with perception, and very little to do with actual, measurable, or accurately describeable good.

[robm]

If you are lacking on knowledge, the internet has all manner of information.

TLT, I think you missed the sarcasm emoji.... that doesn't exist, unfortunately.

[brad9798]

7 figures in the stock market ... but ... but ... he was mean!

[John Smith]

7 figures in the stock market ... but ... but ... he was mean!

What percentage of American citizens are concerned with the stock market

[Keith Wilson]

7 figures in the stock market ... but ... but ... he was mean!

You're a funny man, Brad. Stock market performance was OK but unremarkable during the Trump administration, (data on request), and if you believe presidents are directly responsible for that on way or another, I have this bridge that I can get you a really good deal on . . .

[Too Little Time]

You're a funny man, Brad. Stock market performance was OK but unremarkable during the Trump administration, (data on request), and if you believe presidents are directly responsible for that on way or another, I have this bridge that I can get you a really good deal on . . .

Perhaps you could use the S&P500 total return in showing that the returns were unremarkable. I get about 15.8% annualized. That may put it in the top 10 of administrations.

But I frequently said that presidents are not responsible for such things.

[Too Little Time]

What percentage of American citizens are concerned with the stock market

I have not been concerned since 2006. But there are a great number who are concerned enough to buy and sell stocks on a daily basis.

But I think you meant: What percentage have investments in the stock market? About 58%.

[Keith Wilson]

Perhaps you could use the S&P500 total return in showing that the returns were unremarkable. . . . That may put it in the top 10 of administrations..

The S&P 500 started in 1923. There have been 17 presidents since then, and 26 4-year administrations. So in the top ten - as I said, OK, but unremarkable. But you're quite right that presidents are not responsible for such things; not directly, anyway.

[Too Little Time]

The S&P 500 started in 1923. There have been 17 presidents since then, and 26 4-year administrations. So in the top ten - as I said, OK, but unremarkable. But you're quite right that presidents are not responsible for such things; not directly, anyway.

I think anything over 15% for 4 years is remarkable. (I am sure you understand that #1 is in the top ten. Perhaps that administration would be remarkable by your standards. I have no idea where Trump stood. I did read in the top 8, but that was the DJIA, and my not have been the total return, and it may not have been for 100 years.)

I am sure a number of administrations have been remarkable relative to the S&P 500.

[brad9798]

You're a funny man, Brad. Stock market performance was OK but unremarkable during the Trump administration, (data on request), and if you believe presidents are directly responsible for that on way or another, I have this bridge that I can get you a really good deal on . . .

I am a funny man~! I appreciate that! Duhhhhh ... presidents are certainly NOT AT ALL directly responsible. That should be common knowledge ... but indirect things run the financial world! Always have.