Ron DeSantis disqualifies himself as a geo-political thinker

[Gerarddm]

Ron DeSantis Says Supporting Ukraine Not A Vital National Interest For The U.S. | HuffPost Latest News

Let me be frank- WHAT A MORON.

DeSantis, is in effect, legitimizing 'might makes right'. While Putin bleats that this is an existential crisis for Russia ( it's not ), it IS an existential crisis for the West, which is doing exactly the right thing to blunt, then stop, the Putin mindset from spreading worldwide.

He sounds like Chamberlain vis a vis Czechoslovakia.

[CWSmith]

Every time someone says that the GOP is in the financial pocket of Russia, it sounds a little more credible to me.

[LeeG]

It’s a tricky thing threading that populist needle. Gotta tickle that fear reflex but not align yourself with the opposition’s fear triggers. Either way you can’t have too many guns, rockets, planes and war ships.

[Garret]

Problem is that he is a thinker & we now know he thinks this will get him RW (IOW Russia loving) votes. It probably will...

[David G]

Thinker? Aint never gonna happen.

Rhonda Santis is a demagogue. All else is secondary.


“The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.” ― Groucho Marx

[hawkeye54]

DeSantis and 'thinker' in the same sentence (?)

[Osborne Russell]

When the Soviet Union ruled Ukraine, Republicans called it the "Evil Empire". No time was too long, no price was too high.

[JayInOz]

https://youtu.be/soWggOxfN0s He sure sounds like Republican presidential material.

[John Smith]

It's the thinking, or failure to think, of the voters that concerns me.

[Art Haberland]

Thinker? Aint never gonna happen.

Rhonda Santis is a demagogue. All else is secondary.


“The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.” ― Groucho Marx

Problem is that he is a thinker & we now know he thinks this will get him RW (IOW Russia loving) votes. It probably will...

DeSantis and 'thinker' in the same sentence (?)

Sadly, he is. Unlike Trump, DeSantis graduated with honours from both Yale University and Harvard Law School. While he is a thinker, he is also probably a psychopath. Do not forget he played a part at Gitmo while in the Navy functioning as a "law advisor" to make sure the people stationed there stayed on just this side of the law. The man is evil, calculating, and entirely smug in the knowledge that the base is eating up everything he is doing. I said this years ago during the height of the Covid Pandemic, DeSantis knows exactly what he is doing and do not underestimate him. He is smarter than Trump, just as cunning, just as shrewd, but thankfully he lacks Trump's charisma.

[Ron Carter]

[QUOTE=Art Haberland;6818997]Sadly, he is. Unlike Trump, DeSantis graduated with honours from both Yale University and Harvard Law School. While he is a thinker, he is also probably a psychopath. Do not forget he played a part at Gitmo while in the Navy functioning as a "law advisor" to make sure the people stationed there stayed on just this side of the law. The man is evil, calculating, and entirely smug in the knowledge that the base is eating up everything he is doing. I said this years ago during the height of the Covid Pandemic, DeSantis knows exactly what he is doing and do not underestimate him. He is smarter than Trump, just as cunning, just as shrewd, but thankfully he lacks Trump's charisma.[/QUO

+1 Having spent 4 months in Florida every winter since he was elected I agree. He articulate and intelligent. Much more dangerous than Trump in the long run.

[David W Pratt]

You prolly could have left "geo-political" out of the sentence.

[McMike]

+1 Art. You all underestimated Trump….

[LeeG]

DeSantis doesn’t need to be a geopolitical thinker to make it to the Whitehouse and his comment does’t necessarily mean he isn’t a geopolitical thinker. My take is he is validating a significant percentage of the population’s reticence for another openended war that carries a risk of WWIII. Who knows what DeSantis actually thinks

[Osborne Russell]

Well, the Reds 86'd the Chimp for Iraq, after they strenuously called for it. They are without shame, even when it comes to killing.

“The Russian government is a powerful dictatorship that makes no secret of its hatred of America,” Haley wrote. “Unlike other anti-American regimes, it is attempting to brutally expand by force into a neighboring pro-American country.”

-- Nikki Haley

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DeSantis’s comments were at odds with his own words and actions when he was a congressman from Florida.

In 2014, DeSantis voted for an aid package for Ukraine and backed a 2015 resolution that called on Russia to withdraw from Ukraine while authorizing security assistance for Kyiv. He advocated for a “Reaganist” foreign policy stance in a 2016 interview with Fox News’s Lou Dobbs, criticizing President Barack Obama for what he called a lackluster response to Russian aggression in Eastern Europe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...antis-ukraine/

[Garret]

Thinker? Aint never gonna happen.

Rhonda Santis is a demagogue. All else is secondary.


“The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.” ― Groucho Marx

DeSantis and 'thinker' in the same sentence (?)

Please be sure to read Art's post #10. As he said, Yale & Harvard Law. Believe what you will, but those 2 schools require thinking. I'm am really concerned about Dems being so blind as to completely underestimate the man. I bet his IQ is easily 30-50 points above Trump and - in case you've forgotten - Trump won.

Now in the case of W (before you bring up his having gone to Yale) - he isn't actually stupid, he is misguided & a poor judge of people.

[JayInOz]

[QUOTE=Ron Carter;6819007]

Sadly, he is. Unlike Trump, DeSantis graduated with honours from both Yale University and Harvard Law School..

Desantis can't understand why America needs to continue supporting Ukraine. Thick as pig s##t, dangerous and will probably get elected president

[Osborne Russell]

Desantis can't understand why America needs to continue supporting Ukraine. Thick as pig s##t, dangerous and will probably get elected president

He understands it perfectly. He's educated.

Like Trump isn't. Neither is supporting America, as one might assume. This is the point.

You think the President of America cannot become the President of America without supporting America? Tsk.

What do you think America is? A mere nation?

[JayInOz]

I think America was a good idea with a lot of potential. Now it's a serious medical episode and not responding to meds

[Garret]

I think America was a good idea with a lot of potential. Now it's a serious medical episode and not responding to meds

The US is not the first country to have evil politicians, not will it be the last. What's frustrating is that the country has enough people who believe this crap to get them elected. Desantis is playing these people like a fiddle while the supposedly sane folks look on & say "He's stupid" or "He'll never get elected". He won his last election with 60% of the vote, is even more popular in FL now, & he damn sure could get elected as president.

[skuthorp]

"DeSantis graduated with honours from both Yale University and Harvard Law School"
…………..and the result is just another self-serving gun for hire……..

[LeeG]

Well, the Reds 86'd the Chimp for Iraq, after they strenuously called for it. They are without shame, even when it comes to killing.

criticizing President Barack Obama for what he called a lackluster response to Russian aggression in Eastern Europe.

That’s part of why Gingrich became a cheer leaders for Ahmed Chalabi and the INC. As Speaker of the House he could promote an aggressive posture of promoting “regime change” which characterized Clinton as weak and ineffectual. Desert Storm needed a sequel and Clinton wasn’t going to do it.
. Ground reality in Iraq was secondary to winning political battles in DC. DeSantis will use whatever political talking point that provides leverage to get into the WhiteHouse.

[Gerarddm]

Bill Maher opined that DeSantis is basically saying the same things as Drumph, without being Drumph. As he quipped, therefore DeSantis is basically a Drumph tribute band, and who wants to hire a tribute band when the real thing is available? Makes a certain amount of sense.

[L.W. Baxter]

The US is not the first country to have evil politicians, not will it be the last. What's frustrating is that the country has enough people who believe this crap to get them elected. Desantis is playing these people like a fiddle while the supposedly sane folks look on & say "He's stupid" or "He'll never get elected". He won his last election with 60% of the vote, is even more popular in FL now, & he damn sure could get elected as president.

meanwhile, dems and allies are busy making sure everybody hears that biden is "too old" to run again.

like, wouldn't it be great to have a corrosive primary against a competent and proven incumbent. we're sure to form a consensus behind a better candidate, right? because that's how it works?

[L.W. Baxter]

Bill Maher opined that DeSantis is basically saying the same things as Drumph, without being Drumph. As he quipped, therefore DeSantis is basically a Drumph tribute band, and who wants to hire a tribute band when the real thing is available? Makes a certain amount of sense.

i have already seen that script being flipped, saw a headline the other day, "trump cribbing from desantis". however fox news decides to play it, it will be played.

[Art Haberland]

+1 Art. You all underestimated Trump….

I underestimated Trump because I actually worked for and have met the man. He is not a likeable person. I did not expect the astroturf support for him or how he actually knew how to rile people up at his rallies. I guess I was too busy being repulsed to see his charisma.

[LeeG]

Bill Maher opined that DeSantis is basically saying the same things as Drumph, without being Drumph. As he quipped, therefore DeSantis is basically a Drumph tribute band, and who wants to hire a tribute band when the real thing is available? Makes a certain amount of sense.

Makes me nauseous.

[Garret]

meanwhile, dems and allies are busy making sure everybody hears that biden is "too old" to run again.

like, wouldn't it be great to have a corrosive primary against a competent and proven incumbent. we're sure to form a consensus behind a better candidate, right? because that's how it works?

Did I ever say he's too old or say he should be primaried?

[L.W. Baxter]

Did I ever say he's too old or say he should be primaried?

no. didn't mean to imply that you did.

i was agreeing with you that desantis represents a real threat, to bring fascism to america by democratic vote. winning is the only thing matters.

[Garret]

no. didn't mean to imply that you did.

i was agreeing with you that desantis represents a real threat, to bring fascism to america by democratic vote. winning is the only thing matters.

Excellent! Glad you see him as a real threat. I find the idea of Trump with a brain to be damn scary.

[Keith Wilson]

I find the idea of Trump with a brain to be damn scary.

Likewise. Younger, more calculating, not quite as hobbled by narcissism, but just about as ruthless. He must be stopped.

[Garret]

HB 999 being introduced in Florida:

https://www.aclufl.org/en/legislatio...t-control-bill

• Dictates what courses of study college students could choose to pursue, prohibiting fields of study involving race and gender studies.
• Usurps faculty hiring decisions to the governors’ appointees and allows tenure to be reviewed at any time.
• Prohibits spending on activities that promote diversity, equity and inclusion.
• Creates new general education requirements prioritizing neoclassical education focused on Western European civilization.

[Gerarddm]

^ Fascist. Drop mic.

[LeeG]

^ Fascist. Drop mic.

A portion of America is ready for fascism.

[Art Haberland]

A portion of America is ready for fascism.

A portion of the USA has always been ready for fascism.