I actually agree with Sarah Huckabee Sanders!

[Keith Wilson]

From her rebuttal to Biden's speech last night: "The dividing line in America is no longer between right and left — it's between normal or crazy." Yes, she really said that.

She's dead right, although she's obviously mistaken about which side has gone bonkers.

[George.]

Has a side really gone crazy, though?

Or has one side decided to round up all the stupid and crazy people that have always been with us? You know, the ones that believed Elvis was alive and that UFOs abduct people, back in the days of tabloids at the checkout line. There were always lots of tabloids, so there must have been lots of buyers.

It is interesting that the current national-populists include a whole lot of people who used to be left wingnuts. They switched sides when they saw the right buying into crazy and stupid.

[Canoez]

From her rebuttal to Biden's speech last night: "The dividing line in America is no longer between right and left — it's between normal or crazy." Yes, she really said that.

She's dead right, although she's obviously mistaken about which side has gone bonkers.

Yep. The sedition caucus is crazy, and the Republican party is tolerating it.

[TomF]

Stonekettle's trenchant observation about self awareness and dogs licking themselves applies.

[JimD]

Couldn't bear to watch her. Don't have the stomach for it.

[Keith Wilson]

Has a side really gone crazy, though? Or has one side decided to round up all the stupid and crazy people that have always been with us?

Yes. Not one or the other. It's sort of a feedback loop, too; if one's trusted sources of information are disconnected from reality, it will have an effect.

Not that the left doesn't have its share of nuts, but as things stand today, it's definitely not symmetrical.

FWIW, I didn't watch her either. That's the political equivalent of eating a hamburger with live maggots.

[John Smith]

I watched it. More non truths. Yet those who watch FOX will see it as gospel.

[LeeG]

there’s a word for this..

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...e-war-00081687

“Most Americans simply want to live their lives in freedom and peace, but we are under attack in a left-wing culture war we didn’t start and never wanted to fight,”

[Garret]

As Keith said (& I did on another thread) - she nailed it. Only problem is that she's confused about which is which.

[Canoeyawl]

She came on the tv and I had to sprint for the porcelain bus, I almost missed it

[CWSmith]

She spent the first 10 minutes bragging about herself!

[David G]

From her rebuttal to Biden's speech last night: "The dividing line in America is no longer between right and left — it's between normal or crazy." Yes, she really said that.

She's dead right, although she's obviously mistaken about which side has gone bonkers.

As Keith said (& I did on another thread) - she nailed it. Only problem is that she's confused about which is which.

As always --

'Every accusation from today's R's should be read as a confession'.

[LOKI]

Has a side really gone crazy, though?

Or has one side decided to round up all the stupid and crazy people that have always been with us? You know, the ones that believed Elvis was alive and that UFOs abduct people, back in the days of tabloids at the checkout line. There were always lots of tabloids, so there must have been lots of buyers.

It is interesting that the current national-populists include a whole lot of people who used to be left wingnuts. They switched sides when they saw the right buying into crazy and stupid.

Could you please name some of these left wingnuts who did such please?

[LeeG]

Does a left wing nut have reverse thread?

[Osborne Russell]

From her rebuttal to Biden's speech last night: "The dividing line in America is no longer between right and left — it's between normal or crazy." Yes, she really said that.

She's dead right, although she's obviously mistaken about which side has gone bonkers.

They cling ever more tightly to tu quoque. Punctuated by spurts of both sides are the same.

[George.]

You guys are kinda funny, did you know that ?

You know what would be funny? To watch the opposition's rebuttal of Xi's speech at the Party Congress.

Oh, wait...

[George.]

But I s'pose you wouldn't be happy without a rebuttal to evolution, or plate tectonics, or the sun as the center of our solar system. Everything needs an opposition, eh ? (shaking head ...)

Of course. Opposition is what hones and improves things, and cuts down mistakes, from scientific theory to public policy.

That is why an authoritarian society that brooks no opposition has a glass ceiling. Once they are done copying what free societies invented, they can go no further without getting derailed.

[George.]

Just because you say so ? That's sillier than silly. Besides that, it contradicts most of human history.

No it doesn't. Humanity advanced the most when it was free to think and debate, and the least when it was not. Progress really took off right after the Enlightenment, and not by coincidence. 99% of the progress of the last 200 years originated in free societies.

All that your "free societies" have done in the past 200 years is drive us off the cliff of planetary existence.

China and Russia are doing way more than their bit to drive us off that cliff.

Now don't you have a rain forest to go despoil or something ?

No, but I have one to save.

[George.]

You might want to get on that rain forest thing. Reputable sources say your free society is ripping it out at an incredible rate.

Yes.

Fortunately, because it is a free society, I am allowed to oppose it. I even survived four years of totally antagonizing the government, openly and publicly. In fact, I did my bit to change that government to one that will better protect the forest.

'humanity' hasn't advanced an inch in a thousand years.

China certainly hasn't, except for the bits they lately copied from the West.

[Tom Montgomery]

[Garret]

burp. How retarded. There were no "rebuttals" to the State of the Union message for most of my life. It wasn't until the republican party went off the rails that we started getting this nonsense.

But I s'pose you wouldn't be happy without a rebuttal to evolution, or plate tectonics, or the sun as the center of our solar system. Everything needs an opposition, eh ? (shaking head ...)

You must be really old! They started 57 years ago - 1966.

[George.]

your opposition did exactly nothing to change the situation.

How little you know. My opposition, in fact, changed the situation in the area where I work, and kept it from being burned down and poached lifeless. And then my opposition, together with the opposition of many, many others, changed the regime.

the ruling communist party made everyone go to school, learn to read and write and speak a common language (lots of older people, especially women, to this day cannot read), made women into humans legally, improved the physical standards of living about 50,000%, brought medicine to the vast majority of the country where it had witch doctors before, brought electricity and other useless labor-saving devices to 800 million people, controlled the population so that famines would no longer kill millions

All of it copied from the free societies.

[George.]

Damn me, I keep making the same mistake. I said I would not continue talking to a retard and I meant it. My bad

You are pathetic, HR. Even the "ruling communist party" that you so admire is a copy.

[LeeG]

come on George, the ignore list works

[Keith Wilson]

In Ms Sanders' defense, the rebuttal speeches are written before they know what the president is going to say, and they're rarely very good. This one, unfortunately, reflected the current state of the Republican party all too well.

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Geez, George., don't poke at him fer chrissake; he just emits malodorous gases.

Mr Davies, I have no idea wheter you're doing this out of sincere conviction or as a paid gig, but I'll give you some unsolicited advice: paid or voluntary, it would be far more effective if you would :
1. Not lay it on too thick. A bit of balance would make you more credible. The Chinese Communist Party is also responsible for the many tens of millions of deaths in the Great Leap Forward, and the horrors of the Cultural Revolution. Better lately for sure, but a one-sided portrayal just makes you look like a shill.
1. Not be a total flaming *sshole. You obviously know nothing about George. and what he does. If anyone has credibility here, it's him.

[Tom Montgomery]

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It is so nice to have the communist Chinese point of view posted here. I only have one question: are they capable of succinctness?

[George.]

You cannot be serious ? I don't know and it doesn't matter what George. does but I do know he speaks not a word of Chinese and reads less. He refuses to look at actual facts, refuses to read what the leaders actually say but instead continually repeats nothing but emotional trash. He wouldn't know a government official from a treetrunk. If you insist on believing George's projections about hospitals overflowing with corpses in the face of twenty photos to the contrary, you ain't doin' your own credibility much good.

At this point you know what ? Frankly, my dears, I don't give a damn. Direct observation has shown me that a few people here can think, while the rest are hopeless. It was really really funny what you said about Ms Huckabee because it applies so well to so many people here. You just know all about the ruling communist party, without ever getting within 5,000 miles of it. Your George. cannot even describe how the government is organized, yet he is "credible" but a person who has had two registered companies and dealt with many many bureaus, state-owned factories, city governments, and yes the "communist party" representatives in various provinces is "a xibot".

Wilful ignorance is the word for it, and you are welcome to it. Why do I get upset ? Because you morons will not listen to reason even in the face of photographic and factual evidence.

pffffft. Roll in your own pigpen, I guess. China will do fine without you. It's you people losing out.

I thought I'd save this for posterity before HR deletes as usual.

[George.]

a person who has had two registered companies and dealt with many many bureaus, state-owned factories, city governments, and yes the "communist party" representatives in various provinces

Translation: they have you by the nuts...

[Keith Wilson]

At this point you know what ? Frankly, my dears, I don't give a damn.

That's obvious.

[Garret]

btw, Keith, I don't know if you are a real person or a paid shill for Social Justice Warriors of America, but if you actually responded to facts and data rather than making emotional claims, rational people might react better.

That's rich when you're talking about an engineer famous for being very reasonable & posting graphs & cites. Are you really that unaware?

[Tom Montgomery]

^
A particularly nasty troll.

[Keith Wilson]

. . . a paid shill for Social Justice Warriors of America,

Oh, that's excellent! Gave me a good laugh. My progressive friends who think I'm too cautious and conservative (in the literal sense more than the political) would be amazed.

[George Jung]

So.... what does being a SJWA pay, Wilson? You been holding out on us?

[George.]

So Keith is actually a social engineer!

[Canoeyawl]

So Keith is actually a social engineer!

Perhaps he could help with China's social experiment.
How many children are allowed these days?