Pete Goss's new wooden cruising boat

[Clarkey]

Interesting new wooden cruising boat...

[stromborg]

Not the prettiest boat but clearly he put a lot of thought into it, I can appreciate how purposeful it seems. All the splashes of color make it playful, much better choice than the usual antiseptic white with bright trim.

[Bobcat]

Seems to be a very well thought out boat

[Clarkey]

I love how modest it is - he knows exactly what he wants to do and has not been tempted by excess in any form. Looks comfortable too.

[Ian McColgin]

I fully appreciate how a person materializes values. Personally I'd place a higher value on how beautiful the boat looks, but Goss's value is from the boat looking out, and that superb. Well thought out on the basis of clearly understood experience.

[Bobcat]

I am intrigued with the idea that the dagger boards are also legs for drying out at low tide

[Hallam]

When He built Spirit of Mystery I followed the whole journey and visited the boat when it was on the yard here in Williamstown. His brother Andrew invited us onboard and shared a few stories of theirs passage.

[Woxbox]

I think this boat is brilliant. Totally pragmatic -- built to the actual use it will be put to. I find the interior refreshing, right down to the kindergarten color scheme.

I think that boats designed for use first and foremost are those that people come to really love and hang on to long-term. I also appreciate the couple's cruising plan -- to explore the interesting coastal and interior waterways of Europe rather than aim for boasting rights of having crossed and ocean or two.

And how about the bow pulpit that doubles as an A-frame to drop the tabernacled mast? That's a stroke of genius.

[Hallam]

There is only one thing that I would change ( that bug's be aesthetically ) and that is the reverse angle of the cabin front......and perhaps the
kindergarten colour scheme of the cupboard fronts would get to me after a while.

[michigangeorge]

I would love to see more boats like this. Such well-implemented original thinking.

[WI-Tom]

Seems like a very comfortable (and very expensive) boat to live in, and operate. If anyone knows what he wants in a liveaboard boat that can actually sail, I'm betting it's Pete Goss. I find the sailing-canaling duality intriguing.

Tom

[timo4352]

Quite impressive. Multi purpose. Well thought out.
more here
https://www.yachtingworld.com/cruisi...fferent-143376

[Woxbox]

With a similar design brief, Bolger drew his AS39. Shoal draft, easily dropped mast, both canal and ocean capable, all designed as a home afloat. Goss' boat is downright conventional by comparison. At least two of these were built.

[Woxbox]

Another boat in the range is Bob Perry's Far Harbor 39. This one also just 8' wide so it, like the AS39, can be slipped into a shipping container for easy transport across the boring parts. I doubt the mast is easily dropped, but otherwise it fits the brief.

[Clarkey]

With a similar design brief, Bolger drew his AS39. Shoal draft, easily dropped mast, both canal and ocean capable, all designed as a home afloat. Goss' boat is downright conventional by comparison. At least two of these were built.

I do love the thinking behind the AS series of boats, especially the 29 but can't help thinking (without wishing to be too controversial) that Goss brings so much more actual hardcore sailing experience to the design of Oddity.

[JimD]

Lots of room and light inside.

[John Meachen]

And how about the bow pulpit that doubles as an A-frame to drop the tabernacled mast? That's a stroke of genius.

I thought such things were fairly common,I could probably find more than a hundred within 25 miles.

[Woxbox]

I thought such things were fairly common,I could probably find more than a hundred within 25 miles.

Interesting. I've never seen one in the U.S., but then again, our waterways aren't crossed by picturesque stone bridges.

[john welsford]

Seems like a very comfortable (and very expensive) boat to live in, and operate. If anyone knows what he wants in a liveaboard boat that can actually sail, I'm betting it's Pete Goss. I find the sailing-canaling duality intriguing.

Tom

A very large proportion of the cost of a "modern cruising yacht" is in the electronics, the labour saving aids such as power winches for anchor and sheets, the complex sails with reefing systems that furl or stack the sails, things such as power driven watermakers, pressure hot water and on and on. A gaffer, with synthetic lines but otherwise old fashioned systems and a simple interior could come in at as little as half the cost of the full house "modern" boat, will be ultimately easier to manage, and much more reliable.

For me, I'd still go down a bit in size and have her rigged single masted junk style with the latest cambered panel sail.

John Welsford

[Woxbox]

The choices are interesting when there's a ceiling on the final cost. Oddity has no stainless steel on her, but she does have wind vane, solar panels, battery bank and a good-sized diesel engine. There's also a fridge and a freezer and plumbing for shower, sink and head. It reflects personal preferences, of course.

If Pete keeps careful records, I wonder if he won't find that the cost of adding and maintaining the sail rig, for miles covered, is over the boat's life more than the cost of fuel saved - particularly if they spend a lot of time in the rivers and canals. But of course, pragmatism has its sensible limits. The couple wanted a sail boat at the outset.

[Touchatout]

Many pics, some drawings and comments on Pete Goss's Oddity blog: https://petegoss.com/blog
Plenty of good idea in that boat.
1 example, the "cockpit door" that can act also as boarding platform and ladder:
https://petegoss.com/blog-details/ch...ladder/77/20/0
https://petegoss.com/blog-details/ladder/97/10/0

[Wayne Poulsen]

I would have a twin sister ship just like that!
Can someone help me with the rig?
Doesnt seem to have a conventional throat and peak (with span) halyard setup?
Rough sketch in Blog #17 shows this arrangement.
Rather appears to have a mid gaff (with span) halyard and "true" peak halyard?
Am I reading this right?
Anyone have any experience with this setup?
No lazyjacks?
Anyone seeing the boom attached to the tabernacle?
Wayne
Fremantle
Marthas Vineyard catboat "Bella"

[Rumars]

I'm seeing a conventional two halyard setup, with the peak one beeing deadended on the gaff and using a bridle. I also see lazyjacks. Boom on the tabernacle is common on folding masts.

If you want a sistership email the man and ask how much the plans cost. Worst that can happen, he refuses to sell.

[gypsie]

If Pete keeps careful records, I wonder if he won't find that the cost of adding and maintaining the sail rig, for miles covered, is over the boat's life more than the cost of fuel saved - particularly if they spend a lot of time in the rivers and canals.

Interesting observation - that wouldn't have occured to me.
I like this boat - i was going to post the video too

I wonder what it would take to have a removable, 'passage', chair fixed to the forward end of the dining table as a watch station? Remote to the autopilot, AIS display somewhere handy.

[Wayne Poulsen]

[QUOTE=Rumars;6802127]I'm seeing a conventional two halyard setup, with the peak one beeing deadended on the gaff and using a bridle. I also see lazyjacks. Boom on the tabernacle is common on folding masts.

I dont see it that way???
The usual is to to have the throat halyard right at the mast end of the gaff...and the peak halyard effectively lifting thru the midpoint of the gaff...
Any other observations out there?
Ta
Wayne
Fremantle

[Juan]

Very interesting, I like it, yes, I like it.

The funny thing is that my ideal sailboat is an "Aqua Quorum" of 6 meters in length, with the centerboard folding, and with a rig that allows to fit the sails with the position of the centerboard:

http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/50%2...C10%20Aqua.htm

In other words: start by ... Longitudinal Position of Center of Buoyancy = Center of Flotation
...

[Juan]

Mini Aqua Quorum

LCB: 59% LWL
Fractional: MainSail = 2 x StaySail

1 Ton

The good thing is that since the daggerboard/centerboard is ln reality centered (it is apparently very far back) then the whole daggerboard with its Lead Bulb goes into the Cockpit, and the Mast is at the end of the Cockpit.

[Rumars]

[QUOTE=Wayne Poulsen;6807218]

I'm seeing a conventional two halyard setup, with the peak one beeing deadended on the gaff and using a bridle. I also see lazyjacks. Boom on the tabernacle is common on folding masts.

I dont see it that way???
The usual is to to have the throat halyard right at the mast end of the gaff...and the peak halyard effectively lifting thru the midpoint of the gaff...
Any other observations out there?
Ta
Wayne
Fremantle

He uses this arrangement of peak halyard. You can clearly see it in the video when he talks leaning on the gaff (minute 11), the grey dyneema bridle with the block and the green peak halyard. The throat one you can just make out in the drone shots, it appears as if a mast portion is suddenly thicker above the gaff.
3parthal.jpg

[Hwyl]

And how about the bow pulpit that doubles as an A-frame to drop the tabernacled mast? That's a stroke of genius.

I sailed a boat with that bow pulpit arrangement. It also had a gear on the anchor windless that could be used in the mast raising procedure.

The boat's achilles heel is the forepeak access.

[Woxbox]

I sailed a boat with that bow pulpit arrangement. It also had a gear on the anchor windless that could be used in the mast raising procedure.

The boat's achilles heel is the forepeak access.

There is that. Also, every try to sleep in the bow while sailing in a seaway? Or even anchored in a choppy bay?

[Norman Bernstein]

Much to like about it. I’m less enamored of the use of galvanized railings, the arch, etc. certainly far cheaper than SS, but I question the durability, long term… especially the potential rust at the wear points. I would at least have them painted or powder coated.

[David W Pratt]

Love it.
$500,000.00?

[Paul Pless]

no cup holders?

[Wayne Poulsen]

[QUOTE=Rumars;6808052]

He uses this arrangement of peak halyard. You can clearly see it in the video when he talks leaning on the gaff (minute 11), the grey dyneema bridle with the block and the green peak halyard. The throat one you can just make out in the drone shots, it appears as if a mast portion is suddenly thicker above the gaff.
3parthal.jpg

Gotcha.
Thanks for that
Wayne

[Jeremy Burnett]

Any bookshelves?