rusbots and xibots

[George.]

There seems to be at least one of each in a lot of forums and comment sections. I see them in a lot of places I look.

Their MO is the same that we can observe here in the Bilge: show up in any thread that might be critical of their masters. Their posts are aggressive, ranting diversions, full of whatabouts and rabbit holes. Every Western news source lies, but they have insider knowledge and are the only ones telling the truth.

In online discussions of a higher order, where logic is required, they end up isolated and discredited, but this rarely discourages them.

[Paul Pless]

in the absence of an engaged moderator the best course of action is ignore the individual completely

as in the way of an amish shunning

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

in the absence of an engaged moderator the best course of action is ignore the individual completely

as in the way of an amish shunning

Would the same technique work for an irritated Brazilian troll?

[George.]

Would the same technique work for an irritated Brazilian troll?

You mean irritating.

[Johan R]

Turns out it's easier to ignore George., who seems to have a screw loose about several subjects where he knows absolutely nothing.

Not just him. His screw is not as loose Heimlagas.

[Peerie Maa]

Not just him. His screw is not as loose Heimlagas.

Back on topic, and WRT a recently departed rusbot

With respect to the Vladimir/Johan/sock puppet/propagandist argument. . . .

Just out of curiosity, I did a little googling. According to the Humanitarian Data Exchange's dataset Aid Worker KIKA (Killed, Injured, Kidnapped or Arrested) Data at https://data.humdata.org/dataset/sin...er-kka-dataset, there have been no international aid workers injured in Ukraine so far, and just one international aid worker killed in Ukraine. That occurred 25 April 2022, in Zaporizhia Oblast at 47.839 N 35.141 E (+/- 25 km), in "open space" (rather than a building, say). No incident description is given. The victim was killed by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (natch) with a firearm. And the victim worked for a human rights NGO.

As far as other aid workers go, there have been, so far, none injured and just 4 killed in Ukraine, all by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation:

- 2 killed on 15 March 2022 in Donetsk Oblast at 47.096 N 37.550 E when "March 2022: An INGO building was destroyed and two female aid workers were killed when a Russian tank fired at the building."

- 1 killed on 8 April 2022 in Donetsk Oblast at 48.739 N 37.584 E when "April 2022: An NGO volunteer was killed in a train station attack while he was helping IDPs board evacuation trains." The means was "Aerial bombing, missiles, and shelling." The victim worked in "protection".

- 1 killed on 15 December 2022 in Kherson Oblast at 46.641 N 37.550 E when "15 December 2022: A volunteer health worker was killed when the NGO facility was hit by Russian shells." The victim worked for the Ukrainian Red Cross.

[WszystekPoTrochu]

Turns out it's easier to ignore George., who seems to have a screw loose about several subjects where he knows absolutely nothing.

uderz w stół, a nożyce się odezwą

[George.]

uderz w stół, a nożyce się odezwą

A version of speak of the devil?

[WI-Tom]

uderz w stół, a nożyce się odezwą

I can get the literal translation OK, but I'm not familiar with that idiom. Sounds like a good one.

Tom

[George.]

Even photographic evidence that he is mistaken does not seem to phase our jungle-dweller.

Here is some photographic evidence:

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I just took this right outside my house. Do you see any deforestation or fires? None. Zippo. Nada. There is no deforestation in Brazil, despite what you read in the Washington Post. If you dispute this you have been brainwashed.

[CWSmith]

There is no deforestation in Brazil, despite what you read in the Washington Post. If you dispute this you have been brainwashed.

Images from space say other wise:

https://youtu.be/3HusBCLws0Q

[George.]

Images from space say other wise:

https://youtu.be/3HusBCLws0Q

Images from space also say otherwise to what xibots claim about the Uighur concentration camps.

But that doesn't stop the xibots from denying it.

[George.]

You are joking here, right?

I am simulating the bots' MO and "line of reasoning".

HR and Vadim didn't get it either.

[LeeG]

You are joking here, right?

He’s doing that irony thing. And just a little stick measuring.

[icyb]

I'll take your good advice but I thought he lived in Ohio not china.

[George.]

Still, it's an interesting phenomenon. It would seem to be a waste of resources by their paymasters. Their crude methods just reinforce the general opinion about the issues. But maybe they are more effective in more lowbrow sites?

[LeeG]

yeah, cuz if yr not with us yr against us and an agent of an eeevil empire.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

HRD is not a bot or a troll. He is what he says he is; he just adopted a somewhat aggressive tone when he arrived here.

[Osborne Russell]

HRD is not a bot or a troll. He is what he says he is; he just adopted a somewhat aggressive tone when he arrived here.

He speaks from a communist state; approvingly. Is he a Communist?

How, given the context, could he not be?

Yet . . . he denies it; what does that tell you about Communism, as it exists? They don't publish manifestoes any more. What does that tell you?

They're keeping mum. They're dummying up, in American. In English: Why?

[Osborne Russell]

HRD is not a bot or a troll. He is what he says he is; he just adopted a somewhat aggressive tone when he arrived here.

Forgive my Anglo-Saxon: bull S. He speaks from Communism, from a Communist nation, with a Communist ideology, approvingly. Yet he denies his Communism. What does that tell you about Communism in the 21st century? Not the 19th. Not those ancients. Not those German students, dreaming in their garrets, laboring under all their bull S, which is dead and gone; rather, Now! Again forgive the Anglo-Saxon.

[Osborne Russell]

The right of property is among the rights of man.

[LeeG]

The right of property is among the rights of man.

A penny saved is a penny earned!

[Osborne Russell]

A penny saved is a penny earned!

The right of property is a hedge, a check, a balance, WTF, are you blind? On tyranny. The experience of the ancients, my friend.

[LeeG]

The right of property is a hedge, a check, a balance, WTF, are you blind? On tyranny. The experience of the ancients, my friend.

Your declaritive statements appear lacking a conversational reference so I thought I’d toss out an aphorism as well.

[Tom Montgomery]

The right of property is among the rights of man.

Tell that to a native American.

[Osborne Russell]

Tell that to a native American.

Watch me. Let's go.

I knew a guy who undertook to be counsel for the Navajo nation. Invaders! Like the Vikings in Northumberland. Athabascans! See, Norman invasion. He told me about winding up in the knee hole of a desk, for cover, with guys with rifles standing round, only thinking, should I shoot?.

The conversation began with how to choose, and how to employ F ing rug protectors; you know, plastic to save the rug from undure wear. Make sure it covers the F ing knee holes.

[Tom Montgomery]

Watch me. Let's go.

I'll be watching with great interest.

[Canoeyawl]

HRD is not a bot or a troll. He is what he says he is; he just adopted a somewhat aggressive tone when he arrived here.

Which time, before or after the first lifetime ban?

[Osborne Russell]

Communism is a moral divide, don't you see.

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

Communism is a moral divide, don't you see.

Man alive - and actual living breathing - and bugger me typing, McCarthyite - Straight out of the nineteen fifties and with just as much contact with reality.

The customs and habits of your tribe are not universal law

[Osborne Russell]

Man alive - and actual living breathing - and bugger me typing, McCarthyite - Straight out of the nineteen fifties and with just as much contact with reality.

The customs and habits of your tribe are not universal law

You would reduce it to tribe, that's your defense of tribe.

[LeeG]

Man alive - and actual living breathing - and bugger me typing, McCarthyite - Straight out of the nineteen fifties and with just as much contact with reality.

The customs and habits of your tribe are not universal law

Osborne has tapped into something stimulating.

[George Jung]

Osborne has tapped into something stimulating.

AFA HRD and defense by AC-B - notice you seem in the minority on this one? I recall, a long time ago, a similar scenario..... Italy, I think it was.

I'd just suggest - as a friend - consider that 'you might be wrong'!

[LeeG]

AFA HRD and defense by AC-B - notice you seem in the minority on this one? I recall, a long time ago, a similar scenario..... Italy, I think it was.

I'd just suggest - as a friend - consider that 'you might be wrong'!

I don’t think anyone here is a rusbot. I might be wrong but my take is that some folks just like getting themselves and/or others riled up. Like bobbys, owning the libs.

[CWSmith]

All valid points, but let's not forget that the good old USofA has more than its share of fools, loud mouths, and jack@sses.

The entity you ignore may well be home-grown.