We are never eating at a restaurant again!

[Katherine]

Paul and I just finished watching The Menu on Amazon prime. Home cooked meals only and no smores!

[McMike]

I've been known to professionally remodel restaurants . . . the before is horrifying. The smells of places when they're closed when the "fresh" food is not cooking and masking the smells of the rotting and filthy underbelly of most places. . . . But then, I've remodeled a few residential kitchens in my time and I've discovered that there are far too many disgusting people in this world. If you've seen what I've seen, you make your own lunches every day.

As for the show, meh.

[Paul Pless]

As for the show, meh.

actually i bet you'd like the show

[Jim Bow]

We turned it on, not knowing anything about it. Surprised? Heck yeah. But we were hooked.

[JayInOz]

Does Paul cook Katherine? Or did you just publicly shoot yourself in the foot? Will pizza fit under the door?

[Joe (SoCal)]

I've been known to professionally remodel restaurants . . . the before is horrifying. The smells of places when they're closed when the "fresh" food is not cooking and masking the smells of the rotting and filthy underbelly of most places. . . . But then, I've remodeled a few residential kitchens in my time and I've discovered that there are far too many disgusting people in this world. If you've seen what I've seen, you make your own lunches every day.

As for the show, meh.

I've only worked in two types of restaurants the type that McMike has been in and the type that you could literally eat off the kitchen floor.
Seriously at the end of service the ENTIRE kitchen, walls, floors, ceiling, and every imaginable surface was hand scrubbed and sanitized by a brigade de cuisine staff working on their hands and knees with buckets of hot soapy water and scrub brushes until it was gleaming perfection. These are places where the walk-ins are immaculate and every container is sealed, marked and dated. Bathrooms are impeccable and there is 2 hours of set up and 2 hours of cleaning every day, 3 times a day. These people people took amazing pride in what they do. The level of energy on a consistant bases was impressive.

[WI-Tom]

Does Paul cook Katherine?

There, but for the grace of god and a well-placed comma...

Tom

[ron ll]

Paul and I just finished watching The Menu on Amazon prime. Home cooked meals only and no smores!

Just watched it in your recommendation. Think I’ll skip dessert.

[C. Ross]

Joe - post #6 is exactly right from my experience (less than yours).

I like open kitchen restaurants in part because you can see the standard of cleanliness and discipline.

[Breakaway]

Food is pretty disgusting.

Example: A field worker has to crap. He's in the middle of god knows how many acres of spinach.

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Think he's gonna squinch his cheeks and toddle off to a building somewhere?

And, then there's the distribution. Food gets shipped into wholesalers, distributors, then local distributors and finally in some van. All along the way, people are spitting, sneezing, peeing... Not washing their hands is almost the least of the consumer's problems.

Just because more people don't get sick doesnt mean the sanitation is great.It just means most of our bodies can tolerate a certain level of ingested filth.

My clearest memory of my great grandmother is her telling me" " Ye'll eat a pound-ah-dirt before ye die!"

Nana was just being kind to a five year old.

Kevin

[JayInOz]

Does Paul cook Katherine (comma) or did you just shoot yourself in the foot? Happy now?

[WI-Tom]

Does Paul cook Katherine (comma) or did you just shoot yourself in the foot? Happy now?

Touché, Jay. You win.

Tom

[hawkeye54]

I've only worked in two types of restaurants the type that McMike has been in and the type that you could literally eat off the kitchen floor.
Seriously at the end of service the ENTIRE kitchen, walls, floors, ceiling, and every imaginable surface was hand scrubbed and sanitized by a brigade de cuisine staff working on their hands and knees with buckets of hot soapy water and scrub brushes until it was gleaming perfection. These are places where the walk-ins are immaculate and every container is sealed, marked and dated. Bathrooms are impeccable and there is 2 hours of set up and 2 hours of cleaning every day, 3 times a day. These people people took amazing pride in what they do. The level of energy on a consistant bases was impressive.

Joe, when we opened our flower / candy / gift store, I had to take training to become a 'Certified Food Inspector' After that, if I was in a restaurant and seated facing the kitchen access, it became difficult to concentrate on the meal, and not mentally 'grade' the cleanliness of the floors / surfaces / food storage areas I could see. Let's not mention the not-to-be-named fast food place where my shoes actually stuck to the floor in front of the soft-drink dispenser


Rick

[WI-Tom]

A lack of exposure to germs is a very unhealthy thing. So, there's that, too. Maybe we need to go out to eat MORE!

Tom

[McMike]

actually i bet you'd like the show

I half watched a bit, it wasn't bad, just didn't capture me. We are, however, going to save up "The Last of Us" for when we finally settle in to our new house and have a second to breath. I've played both games and both made me cry and otherwise were very good stories and games, I hear the show is very good.

[Paul Pless]

zombies, i'm there dude

[wizbang 13]

In a restaurant down here, ( eastern caribee), if you don’t see at least one roach scamper by, rest assured the bartender is using Raid the way your mom used Pledge.
And yes, too clean is not a way to build health either.

[McMike]

zombies, i'm there dude

Are you aware of the games? I know most here aren't "into" gaming, but these games are some of the best examples. Worth buying a Playstation for.

[McMike]

In a restaurant down here, ( eastern caribee), if you don’t see at least one roach scamper by, rest assured the bartender is using Raid the way your mom used Pledge.
And yes, too clean is not a way to build health either.

Dude, I'm not talking too clean, I'm talking not deadly.

[David G]

Dude, I'm not talking too clean, I'm talking not deadly.

I know the feeling. For a while, I supplied new commercial millwork to a small local restaurant chain (Mongolian BBQ) as they upgraded. Until they started going 'slow pay', but that's another story. Demo was flip'n disgusting. Started specifying that the owner hire a separate crew for the bulk of it... and it was still disgusting. And yet, they consistently passed health inspections and no record that anyone ever got sick there. I checked. So I continued to accept free lunches there, and didn't die either. <shru

[ron ll]

Evidently not many posting here have seen the movie.

[Katherine]

Evidently not many posting here have seen the movie.

That was my thinking too.

[birlinn]

Sixty years ago, when I was at college in Leicester, we used to go nearly every day to a cheap and busy Chinese restaurant.
First day after the Easter hols, I went in and realised I was the only customer. Very attentive waiters too.
On chatting that evening to my flatmates, I said I was puzzled. They roared with laughter, and produced the local paper from a few days previously.
The Public Health Inspector had called, and found dirty sinks, floors and toilets. He then spotted a pair of wellingtons near the basement door, and asked why they were wet.
Apparently lots of food, such as rice, was stored on shelves in the basement; blocked drains meant there was a few inches of effluent over the floor.
They were fined a record amount, and were only allowed to re-open after a new manager had sorted everything.
At least when I dined it was probably the cleanest it had ever been!

[Dikhaut]

In a restaurant down here, ( eastern caribee), if you don&rsquo;t see at least one roach scamper by, rest assured the bartender is using Raid the way your mom used Pledge.
And yes, too clean is not a way to build health either.

At an outdoor cafe type restaurant in Frenchtown, Charlotte Amalie we were eating at a table when a mongoose chased a rat out of the kitchen into the dining area. It caught the rat and killed it under another table where people were dining.


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[john welsford]

A lack of exposure to germs is a very unhealthy thing. So, there's that, too. Maybe we need to go out to eat MORE!

Tom

There have been reports that children who grow up in extremely sanitary environments without exposure to germs get much more serious illnesses when adults, their immune systems don't get properly built up.
"Go play in the dirt kids".

John Welsford

[Canoeyawl]

I used to enjoy morning coffee in a small shop down by the beach right next door to a family owned Chinese restaurant (they lived upstairs) and was always puzzled by the plastic five gallon pail under the gutter spout. Until I learned what "Fish Sauce" was... (A flat roof in a sunny clime where the fog comes in the evenings is a perfect place to "sun ferment" fish, often taking a year or two to attain perfection)
They were eventually fined and shut down for serving "mystery meat"
(I'm sure it was good but never ate there)

[Joe (SoCal)]

I just looked up the movie on Amazon Prime ......... NOPE NOPE NOPE



Not watching it.

[LeeG]

I've only worked in two types of restaurants the type that McMike has been in and the type that you could literally eat off the kitchen floor.
Seriously at the end of service the ENTIRE kitchen, walls, floors, ceiling, and every imaginable surface was hand scrubbed and sanitized by a brigade de cuisine staff working on their hands and knees with buckets of hot soapy water and scrub brushes until it was gleaming perfection. These are places where the walk-ins are immaculate and every container is sealed, marked and dated. Bathrooms are impeccable and there is 2 hours of set up and 2 hours of cleaning every day, 3 times a day. These people people took amazing pride in what they do. The level of energy on a consistant bases was impressive.

At the first pizza takeout place I managed the mice and cockaroaches waited until five minutes before closing to come out.

[Joe (SoCal)]

At the first pizza takeout place I managed the mice and cockaroaches waited until five minutes before closing to come out.

Dude I've worked some old bars in lower NYC you had to walk down mold covered steps to a stone cellar that smelled like rat piss just to change the kegs that were just sitting on the floor as rats and roaches ran all over the place. Oh yea I've worked in places that would give you the hebee jeeebes

[LeeG]

Dude I've worked some old bars in lower NYC you had to walk down mold covered steps to a stone cellar that smelled like rat piss just to change the kegs that were just sitting on the floor as rats and roaches ran all over the place. Oh yea I've worked in places that would give you the hebee jeeebes

where ghosts wander and bodies dragged away at night

[ron ll]

I just looked up the movie on Amazon Prime ......... NOPE NOPE NOPE



Not watching it.

But… Anya Taylor-Joy!

[Paul Pless]

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[birlinn]

Is she on the menu?

[George Jung]

prolly' can't afford her.

Saw the movie - it's disquieting, but well-done, has quite the cast.

[John Meachen]

I used to enjoy morning coffee in a small shop down by the beach right next door to a family owned Chinese restaurant (they lived upstairs) and was always puzzled by the plastic five gallon pail under the gutter spout. Until I learned what "Fish Sauce" was... (A flat roof in a sunny clime where the fog comes in the evenings is a perfect place to "sun ferment" fish, often taking a year or two to attain perfection)
They were eventually fined and shut down for serving "mystery meat"
(I'm sure it was good but never ate there)

I have a vague memory of that the Romans brought fish sauce to Britain.I believe fermented anchovies are still a constituent of Worcester sauce.

My most amusing memory of an establishment getting into trouble is from quite a while ago when a Chinese takeaway was found to have an everlasting pot of sauce on the stove and they kept a cricket bat by the stove to stir it with.