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    FUJIFILM X-E4 Mirrorless Camera with 27mm Lens (Silver)

    $1,049.00



    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...al_camera.html
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    At the website they list a whole bunch of film tones you can emulate. Is that something you set before you take a pic? Or before you export? So many choices. Will it fit your pocket?
    Good lookin camera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    At the website they list a whole bunch of film tones you can emulate. Is that something you set before you take a pic? Or before you export? So many choices. Will it fit your pocket?
    Good lookin camera
    The film simulation is only relevant when shooting jpeg - if shooting "Raw" then you sort that out in post - there is the option of shooting "Raw+ Jpeg".

    There ar optically stabilized lenses available - the OIS 15-45 makes a handy and still reasonably pocketable package.

    If you want built in flash then the XE-3 , 2 and 1 all have iit - whether you need it or not is an interesting question.

    Pack an extra battery.
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    the xt5 has an auto setting
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    It doesn't have image stabilization? I shoot in low light enough where I would miss it.

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    all that running the camera cones back quickly

    the thing thats gonna come as a blow to you is how much you have come to rely on the iphone to do your post processing for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    all that running the camera cones back quickly

    the thing thats gonna come as a blow to you is how much you have come to rely on the iphone to do your post processing for you
    Well thats a problem. Take this photo

    IMG_5398.jpg

    It was part of a LIVE photo that iPhones will do a computational photography and pick the best image but you can go in and edit it to get what you want. Originally the iPhone selected as the computational photo with the skateboard on the ground

    Like this

    IMG_5863.jpg

    or you could pick this

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    I just get how to shoot on an iPhone I'm intimidated by this



    See all those little buttons and dials and then there are more and more menus. I haven't thought abut fstop, exposure and speed in over 30 years.
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    the xe4 has no stabilization
    no hybrid optical viewfinder
    no built in flash
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    the xe4 has no stabilization
    no hybrid optical viewfinder
    no built in flash
    What would you rec? I think he should take a half dozen disposal Fuji film cameras.
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    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeadon View Post
    What would you rec?
    by the time of this trip he will have an iphone 15 pro maximus
    should be sufficient

    samsung s22 might be interesting, if he would embrace the technology and practice for a month or before going

    seriously, he should borrow his friends x100v for a good long week and use it for everything that he would normally use his current iphone for; one of two things will emerge from such an exercise
    1. he will immediately buy a x100v
    2. he will remain convinced there is no more convenient appliance than his iphone
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    The majority of the photos that I have posted for several years have been taken with one of these.

    Panasonic Lumix G 25mm F1.7 ASPH $147 at B&H or Amazon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy W View Post
    The majority of the photos that I have posted for several years have been taken with one of these.

    Panasonic Lumix G 25mm F1.7 ASPH $147 at B&H or Amazon
    I have an Lumix G7 that I use to shoot 4k video for various explainer videos at my work. I like the small size of the M43 system. I have a 12-35 Lumix standard zoom. If I was to upgrade the camera body (used G9? I dunno) I’d want to build a kit around that zoom. Maybe add a 17mm and then something much longer for wildlife.

    Or maybe I’d go a whole other direction. Film sort of has my attention at this point. I really enjoy it too.
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    abes of maine, bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    abes of maine, bro
    Thanks I pulled the trigger

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    Nobody who wants an x100v wants a Samsung s22.
    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
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    i was being facetious

    sony has a compelling entrant
    and that's saying a lot because i really in general dislike sony products

    full frame mirrorless rangefinder in a pretty compact size
    in body image stabilization
    ginormous evfinder
    expansive glass selection - native sony and zeiss glass plus third party including leica, canon, and nikon

    if i had settled on sony as my system of choice this would be my second body





    35mmf2.8

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    The only thing which would bother me about the X-E series for Joe's trip is the weather sealing......

    Without the boat, no issue.

    Perhaps he could add a second used Nikonos, as much for pose value as anything else.
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    This is what we use for travel photography. It isn't necessarily the top contender in all image categories, but it has some very important qaualities for sailing: top of class stabilization and auto focus in a splash proof housing. It has lots of tactile controls and is light and ergonomic enough for one handed shooting while leaning out over the rail. It is a solid video camera as well, shooting 4k with external or internal mic, and the back screen can flip around if selfies are your thing.

    For a well rounded daily workhorse we've been very happy with it. Olympus OM-D E-M5.

    It was a massive upgrade over our old DSLR.



    These are straight from the camera, no editing at all.









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    Yes, the Olympus OM-D E-M5 would work nicely, but Joe seems to be stuck on a rangefinder style body.

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    peak design makes good stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    peak design makes good stuff
    Spendy $114 https://cleversupply.co/products/adj...39608401920159

    Then again I bought this wide angle attachment for $283, but it will make it even more Leica like

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    I wonder if there is possibility to rent a Leica for a month
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    Optical (or even digital) view finders have their points. I have two cameras (mobile phone and an early aging Fuji) that only rely on the LCD screen for picture composition - in summer half the time I have to shoot with only a rough idea of what might be on the photo and what won't as the LCDs are not bright enough. The picture quality on both is good, you just don't know in advance what will be on the pictures.

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    Sigma FP with the 45mm man.
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    Just get the vinyl wrap for your phone

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    The Sonys have a horrible menu that makes you want to punt it over a hedge just trying to get it to do a self timer or whatever. They feel like techy gadgets, not what I want from a camera.

    I bet you can find a Nikon Z mirrorless 6/7 for a grand second hand. 45mp also.

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    ^ simple Nikon Z is pretty cool with a fitted 35 mm. Light, compact and can be tossed around. A cheap light lens really works.

    I would look for a camera that can be charged with usb-c cable. Nobody wants to carry a separate charger.
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    i have a nikon z
    the self timer is buried in the menu
    fortunately the nikon menu system is pretty intuitive, also its the same basic menu ive been using for fifteen years
    i think the problem with nikons for joe's use is they are not pocketable nor unobtrusive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    i think the problem with nikons for joe's use is they are not pocketable nor unobtrusive
    Might be a feature, not a bug...

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    I just went to an amazing local camera shop and I came REAL close to pulling out the AmEx on this Leica Q2 “Ghost” Hondinkee.

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    But at $5,700 I enjoy being married more

    I did have them put me on the waitlist for the Fuji X100V at $1,400 its divorce proof

    The guys running the place are real camera buffs, they have large format printers with archival paper, two studio spaces one for cars and one for everything else, as well as a rotating gallery of photographers.

    We had a nice chat and I showed them on my iPad some of my iPhone photos, because I wanted to explain my shooting style. They were actually blown away at what can be done with an iPhone. One guy looking at both the Nun & the girl in the door photo, said matter of factly they look like a photographer Henri Cartier Bresson, you should look him up ( They said it I didn’t )

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    I was explaining to them this is why I have a hard time buying a traditional camera. They said the only problem is doing any prints larger that 8.5x11 it wont look good. They then added that it was a shame because they would be willing to give me a show in their gallery, which was very flattering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    Heh, his flattery almost paid off:




    i kid, i kid...
    That was after I turned down the Leica Q2 and put on the list for the Fuji which will probably arrive in 2 months or so they say. Also now I’m reading about The Q2 near mythical reputation among street photographers. They even make a B&W ONLY version that is ACTUALLY more $$$$$
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    its cheaper to buy a q2 than it is to buy just a correspondingly fast leica 28mm lens!

    pity they dont make a 50mm q2 and a 90mm q2
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