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    you can have my gas stove when you pry it from my cold dead hands

    dammit
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    Ditto

    How the hell do you deglaze on an induction stove ?
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    I cook on induction whenever I'm at the inlaws. I despise it. but deglazing is actually one of the things induction does well.

    I'm pretty sure I could make a better omelette on the bbq, but deglazing or any other basically-boiling process is right in the wheelhouse for induction ranges.
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    Would love to see someone do a flambé on an electric stove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    Ditto

    How the hell do you deglaze on an induction stove ?
    I'm confused as to why you're having difficolty deglazing with an induction stove. Is the fond getting burnt? Is the liquid not flashing off as quickly as you'd like? These sound like not being used to the heat levels. I'm a lifelong gas stove owner. In vacation homes where I've had an induction stove it's always taken a bit of time to get used to the heat settings. The heat is as responsive as gas but without the feed back of open flame it's a bit harder to judge intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    I cook on induction whenever I'm at the inlaws. I despise it. but deglazing is actually one of the things induction does well.

    I'm pretty sure I could make a better omelette on the bbq, but deglazing or any other basically-boiling process is right in the wheelhouse for induction ranges.
    THIS IS DEGLAZING



    How do you tip the pan, catch the flame and deglaze on an induction stove ?
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    The GOP misinformation machine sure got lots of folks revved up with this one. Practice hones ability. What's next? How about this,,,
    " Democrats say that, "Due to their low fuel mileage, starting next year there will be an extra annual tax charged on all trucks 3/4 ton and up. This includes used trucks."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    THIS IS DEGLAZING

    How do you tip the pan, catch the flame and deglaze on an induction stove ?
    That's not deglazing. It's flambe.

    Deglazing is simply the act of adding liquid to a hot pan, which allows all of the caramelized bits stuck to the bottom to release.

    Flambé is a cooking procedure in which alcohol is added to a hot pan to create a burst of flames. The word means "flamed" in French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    THIS IS DEGLAZING



    How do you tip the pan, catch the flame and deglaze on an induction stove ?
    That would be correctly called a flambe, no fire in de-glazing.

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    fart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    ...snared Pless into carrying their water.
    A not infrequent occurrence... <G>
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    That might be the first correct post that you have made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figmental View Post
    The GOP misinformation machine sure got lots of folks revved up with this one. Practice hones ability. What's next? How about this,,,
    " Democrats say that, "Due to their low fuel mileage, starting next year there will be an extra annual tax charged on all trucks 3/4 ton and up. This includes used trucks."
    sounds good to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    ...snared Pless into carrying their water.
    not really
    was trying to be funny
    sorry i failed you
    the source of the new rule is liberal though
    and where i heard it from is as liberal a source as you will find in today's broadcast media
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodpile View Post
    That would be correctly called a flambe, no fire in de-glazing.
    COME ON BRO, One thing I know and I don't know much is COOKING Techniques

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    “Sorry about your persistent lung disease, my dear child, but I need to “deglaze”.”

    Gas-burning stoves in kitchens across America are responsible for roughly 12.7 percent of childhood asthma cases nationwide — on par with the childhood asthma risks associated with exposure to secondhand smoke, according to a study.
    The peer-reviewed study, published in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, adds fuel to a burgeoning debate over the potential threats that gas stoves pose to the planet and public health.
    It comes as scientists and activists cheer the Consumer Product Safety Commission’s recent decision to weigh new regulations on indoor air pollution from gas stoves, even as the natural gas industry fights to keep the signature blue flames of the appliances in American homes.
    Gas stoves, which are used in about 35 percent of U.S. households, can emit significant amounts of nitrogen dioxide, a pollutant that can trigger asthma and other respiratory conditions. The appliances can also leak methane, a potent planet-warming gas, even when they are turned off, according to research published last year.
    Asthma, a leading chronic condition globally, affects about 5 million children across the country. The study, which was led by the environmental think tank RMI, suggests that nearly 650,000 cases of childhood asthma can be attributed to gas stove use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    COME ON BRO, One thing I know and I don't know much is COOKING Techniques

    "Flambé, a French term meaning “flamed,” is a very special culinary procedure in which alcohol is added during the cooking process in order to create fire within a pot or pan. The flames are a result of the combustion of alcohol. Unless a great deal of alcohol is added to the pan, the combustion should last only for a moment. The flames are extinguished when all of the alcohol has been consumed or “burned off.” Bananas Foster is a dish that is often made using flambé techniques."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    “Sorry about your persistent lung disease, my dear child, but I need to “deglaze”.”

    Gas-burning stoves in kitchens across America are responsible for roughly 12.7 percent of childhood asthma cases nationwide — on par with the childhood asthma risks associated with exposure to secondhand smoke, according to a study.
    The peer-reviewed study, published in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, adds fuel to a burgeoning debate over the potential threats that gas stoves pose to the planet and public health.
    It comes as scientists and activists cheer the Consumer Product Safety Commission’s recent decision to weigh new regulations on indoor air pollution from gas stoves, even as the natural gas industry fights to keep the signature blue flames of the appliances in American homes.
    Gas stoves, which are used in about 35 percent of U.S. households, can emit significant amounts of nitrogen dioxide, a pollutant that can trigger asthma and other respiratory conditions. The appliances can also leak methane, a potent planet-warming gas, even when they are turned off, according to research published last year.
    Asthma, a leading chronic condition globally, affects about 5 million children across the country. The study, which was led by the environmental think tank RMI, suggests that nearly 650,000 cases of childhood asthma can be attributed to gas stove use.
    My daughter had Asthma when she lived in her mothers home with an electric stove, now she's been living in places with Gas stoves and no Asthma. Go figure

    OH and she takes after her dad and knows how to cook and properly deglaze a pan
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodpile View Post
    "Flambé, a French term meaning “flamed,” is a very special culinary procedure in which alcohol is added during the cooking process in order to create fire within a pot or pan. The flames are a result of the combustion of alcohol. Unless a great deal of alcohol is added to the pan, the combustion should last only for a moment. The flames are extinguished when all of the alcohol has been consumed or “burned off.” Bananas Foster is a dish that is often made using flambé techniques."
    I don't need your wiki definition, ask a real cook or a real chef what deglazing is. Go into any fine restaurant that is in a buzzing back of house and see how its done in real life. I can't think of one of the hundreds of commercial kitchen I've been in that DONT deglaze just like I said. Also I don't know any commercial restaurant kitchen that has an induction or electric stove EVER .

    Hey but Geeezuz you are gonna die on the cross for this ? Go for it but learn how to cook first, then talk to me.
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    12 seconds in you need to learn from Tony - I've worked in places like this

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    If you want to flambé with an electric stove you simply use a long stem lighter. When you grab your spirits you also take the lighter.
    Deglacé is done with various fluids, the most common beeing stock and vine, neither of wich burn, and even when done with spirits it's not supposed to burn.

    As for the health hazards of cooking on gas, what can I say. The kitchen is a room for preparing food, not socializing, only poor people live in the kitchen. A proper kitchen also has natural or forced ventilation actually transporting combustion products and smells to the outside, not some recirculation air filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal)
    My daughter had Asthma when she lived in her mothers home with an electric stove, now she's been living in places with Gas stoves and no Asthma. Go figure

    OH and she takes after her dad and knows how to cook and properly deglaze a pan
    Anecdotal evidence vs. peer reviewed science?
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    I could just see a busy back of the house kitchen during full on Saturday night service chef looking for a lighter

    Some of you would learn a lot just spending one night behind the line and watching how a REAL kitchen works.

    That said when I make it big and buy a restaurant grade kitchen it will be a 8 burner GAS stove with double gas oven, a gas salamander, and a gas grill with a full ANSUL system. Ahhhhhh to dream
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    This is what life is REALLY like behind the line in a real restaurant. They ALL have gas stoves, thats what works

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    Yeah, the 'push' towards induction has been interesting, and.... coordinated. Notice how any/all publications are carrying these stories? Leading the lemmings.

    I'm not a cook, but my boss likes a nice, functional kitchen. Gas cooktop; dbbl electric ovens. I'd be curious - any advantage to simply putting in a large gas dbbl stove/cooktop, over current configurations? Don't 'need' eight burners. And most of the time, only cooking for two. Wants, vs needs, eh?
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    It's all heat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    It's all heat
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    "It's a poor workman that blames his tools"
    Yes but good tools in the hands of a good workman make for better work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumars View Post
    The kitchen is a room for preparing food, not socializing, only poor people live in the kitchen.

    Everyone I know congregates in the kitchen. Therefore, everyone I know is poor. Thank you for enlightening me on this criterion for establishing poverty levels

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    Notice how any/all publications are carrying these stories? Leading the lemmings.
    Sounds like Fox news discussing vaccines or global warming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    THIS IS DEGLAZING



    How do you tip the pan, catch the flame and deglaze on an induction stove ?
    Joe, a bit off topic - your microwave appears to be about 18" above the cooking surface of the burners - that is the 'spec' ;for above an electric range / I specified a gas cooktop in my current home - after a few months, we were awakened at 3 AM by the microwave fan kicking on full speed . The control board of the microwave was overheated by the heat from the gas burners and failed - it thought it had a high temp condition. The actual height of a microwave over a gas range, I believe, is 30 inches. California may vary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfitzger View Post
    That's not deglazing. It's flambe.

    Deglazing is simply the act of adding liquid to a hot pan, which allows all of the caramelized bits stuck to the bottom to release.

    Flambé is a cooking procedure in which alcohol is added to a hot pan to create a burst of flames. The word means "flamed" in French.

    I concur. It is possible to do both of using alcohol to deglaze, but you can deglaze with water, stock or any liquid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye54 View Post
    Joe, a bit off topic - your microwave appears to be about 18" above the cooking surface of the burners - that is the 'spec' ;for above an electric range / I specified a gas cooktop in my current home - after a few months, we were awakened at 3 AM by the microwave fan kicking on full speed . The control board of the microwave was overheated by the heat from the gas burners and failed - it thought it had a high temp condition. The actual height of a microwave over a gas range, I believe, is 30 inches. California may vary.


    (Sorry for the drift)


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    I believe code here is 24"
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