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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    Does it make you more regular knowing Cherman enchineering is taking care of the teknikals?
    Branflakes has that covered.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    It is not standard, you can have iether.
    When we did the refurb of our heads we went for a German made wall mount and cistern unit.

    fromhttp://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?230107-Bathroom-Remodel
    If there is a malfunction in the cistern, do you have to open the wall for repairs? German potty engineering must be a lot more reliable than ours in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UCanoe_2 View Post
    If there is a malfunction in the cistern, do you have to open the wall for repairs? German potty engineering must be a lot more reliable than ours in the US.
    No, you pull off the stainless plate on the front. You can then take out the plate that holds the linkage and gain access to the workings.
    You can see the access hole in the "before" image above.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCanoe_2 View Post
    Dale, now I understand why you have not been posting boat pictures. Your job is getting larger and larger. I would have already called a pro.

    Your wet wall in #22 definitely looks like water intrusion from outside. We had a similar problem with runoff getting into the crawl space under the kitchen, then running beneath the house into the basement, which has no floor drain. Our contractor's solution was to build a retaining wall on the uphill side. Behind the wall there is a big French drain, a couple tons of gravel with perforated drain pipe leading out to the ends of the wall. We then graded the entire yard so water drains away from the house.

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    Looks like some nice work there! And expensive I'm guessing. Actually, I'm not too worried about the front wall. It stays damp but the house is 26 years old and no real problems to date. I'm pretty settled on keeping a dehumidifier down there which is keeping the humidity between 50-60%. Not much I could do about it anyway except make sure the pipe that runs under our front doesn't rust out, and keep my roof/driveway runoff moving away from the house. I may try to put some waterproofing on the wall as previously suggested. The rot problem is a toilet problem though. Gonna fix that.

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    [QUOTE=dalekidd;678819 I may try to put some waterproofing on the wall as previously suggested. The rot problem is a toilet problem though. Gonna fix that.[/QUOTE]

    We apply tanking to sort that
    https://www.permagard.co.uk/advice/wall-tanking-guide
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalekidd View Post
    Looks like some nice work there! And expensive I'm guessing. .... The rot problem is a toilet problem though. Gonna fix that.
    Yep, expensive but worth it. The house is 170 years old and has been subject to extensive "remuddling." The water flowing under the kitchen floor caused the floor joists to rot -- they were red oak logs with the bark still on them. The entire floor came out and was replaced with pressure treated framing plus a vapor barrier in the crawl space.

    But we are getting some thread drift, so let's return to toilets. I discovered my toilet leak because the white vinyl on the bathroom floor was turning grey from water intrusion. So when you replace your floor, consider covering it with something that will allow you to detect future leaks before they turn into disasters. I would rather replace plywood and vinyl than framing.
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    Thought I'd give an update. After about 4 weeks of redo, I'm calling the project DONE!

    Quick pictorial essay.

    After cutting the floor away it left a hole 40" x 60".

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    I cut out the rotted joists and even chiseled away some more. I sprayed the entire area with a solution of termite powder which has borate in it which is also an anti-fungal.

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    The existing floor was 3/4" ply with underlayment on top. Here's mine with the same.

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    I did coat the floor with epoxy in front of the shower and around the toilet hole. I also caulked underneath the flange. Any leakage should manifest itself around the toilet. Fingers crossed.

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    We had ceramic tile but I went back with LVP and a chair height toilet. (Hey, we ain't gettin' no younger). I also went with a Fluidmaster seal.

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    Glad that's over. Now on to more important things - like sailing. Monday forecast: 61 degrees and sunny. Not bad for mid-winter. Lake here I come!

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    Looks great! Thanks for the follow-up

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    Now pay yourself ten grand in mad money and go yachting!!

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    Looks great! Thanks for the follow-up
    Thanks for the input!

    Quote Originally Posted by wizbang 13 View Post
    Now pay yourself ten grand in mad money and go yachting!!
    Not sure how much I saved but I'm sure it was a nice sum and I intend to go sailing - tomorrow in fact!!! Pics to follow

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    I rewarded my self with a sail for my second outing with CIY 16. Winds very light so I got some practice rowing. Boat moved with just a whisper of wind. Here are pics to prove.

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    Beautiful picture and beautiful boat!

    Nice to see you have that bathroom project behind you.

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    I’ve seen some of those in wall tank toilets in the US but they are uncommon. I had to remove one once during a remodel project and the project manager told me to just disconnect it. I hadn’t worked on them before and suggested that he call our plumber first in case there were some special instructions. He called me back two minutes later and said “don’t touch that thing!, the plumber will be right over to do it for you”. I guess they can be a bit finicky.

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    Lookin' great, Dale! And speedy as well.
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