6 year old busted a cap into his teacher.

[CK 17]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/06/u...-virginia.html

A 6-year-old first-grader at an elementary school in Newport News, Va., shot a teacher on Friday afternoon during an altercation in a classroom, the authorities said, leaving her with “life-threatening” injuries and renewing calls for greater gun restrictions.
The boy, who shot the teacher with a handgun, was in police custody on Friday evening, Steve Drew, the chief of the Newport News Police Department, said at a news conference.
The superintendent of Newport News Public Schools, Dr. George Parker, said at the news conference that “we need to keep guns out of the hands of our young people.”
Photos and video taken immediately after the shooting at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News on Friday showed the chaos that had ensued as officers swarmed the school’s brick building: children appeared afraid and confused, parents stood beside crime scene tape and dozens of officers patrolled the area.

[Joe (SoCal)]

Shall not be infringed bitches

[SKIP KILPATRICK]

No words!

[hawkeye54]

Sure, a 6 year old could play 'Cops and Robbers' with a toy gun - but who the heck granted him access to an actual firearm and live ammunition (?) -
Lots of failures to be a responsible adult seem to have occurred here.



Rick

[UCanoe_2]

I know nothing about this incident except what I have read online, but.....

Working in the Virginia juvenile justice system for 15 years taught me that there is a lot of gang activity in Newport News. Plenty of bad boys in that 757 area code.

[CWSmith]

^ Yes, it is a bad town, but there is an adult that needs to be held accountable for this. Someone made it possible for a 6 year old to take a gun to school, either deliberately or through negligence.

[hawkeye54]

^^ I am totally in agreement with CW's post # 6 above ! ! !

[Rich Jones]

The 6-year-old is below the age of reason so can't be charged with anything.
The idiot who let him get his hands on a gun should be thrown in jail for a long time.

[skuthorp]

I have nothing to say that hasn't been said before a 100 times………………………...

[Breakaway]

Boy may be in a single parent home. Put parent in jail, boy gets state-raised. No easy answers.

Kevin


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[Jimmy W]

State raised or to relative might be better than he is getting now.

[CK 17]

Teacher Abby Zwerner

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[Joe (SoCal)]

What an incredible loss.

When we loose people like this the gun nuts win and we as a society loose so much more

[Rich Jones]

She is now in stable condition.
I wonder if we'll ever find out what happened in that classroom.
Was the kid gunning for another kid?

[John Smith]

State raised or to relative might be better than he is getting now.

Did I miss something? Do we know where he got the gun?

[WX]

I know nothing about this incident except what I have read online, but.....

Working in the Virginia juvenile justice system for 15 years taught me that there is a lot of gang activity in Newport News. Plenty of bad boys in that 757 area code.

6 year olds?

[hawkeye54]

As part of my military duties, I taught Small Arms familiarization classes for 12 years ( admittedly, 50 years ago ) . What held true then, I believe, should still be true :

1. A six-year-old should not handle (unattended) a firearm

2. A six-year-old should not handle (unattended) live ammunition
- relate to this, a kid in my elementary school had a .22 round in his hand, and a pin (playing with the bullet) - it went off and damaged his thumb (circa 1959 )

3. A six-year-old should never be in possession of a loaded firearm (unattended) at any time.



Rick

[WI-Tom]

6 year olds?

Involved with gangs to the point of shooting people? Yes, quite plausibly.

Tom

[Kevin T]

To post #17, no disrespect intended, but why the use of the "(unattended)"? And I am assuming by the introduction of the parenthetical that it might be okay to introduce a gun and ammunition to a six year old with adult supervision.

Is there really a situation where it is proper to introduce a firearm to a six year old? Can't the SIX year old be allowed to maintain some sort of childhood innocence at least until they're seven? What age (attended) would be the right age to introduce guns and ammo to children, five, four?

[Peerie Maa]

She is now in stable condition.
I wonder if we'll ever find out what happened in that classroom.
Was the kid gunning for another kid?

There are plenty of witnesses, so the truth will come out.

Police have declined to say what might have motivated the incident, but Chief Steve Drew told reporters the shooting had come after an "altercation" in a first grade (ages six to seven) classroom and did not appear to be "accidental".


One parent, Steve Gonzalez, whose child was present in the classroom at the time of the shooting, told Fox News that Ms Zwerner had reacted selflessly after the shooting.


He said that after being struck by the bullet "she screamed at her kids to run away".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64200873

[hawkeye54]

To post #17, no disrespect intended, by why the use of the "(unattended)"? And I am assuming by the introduction of the parenthetical that it might be okay to introduce a gun and ammunition to a six year with adult supervision.

Is there really a situation where it is proper to introduce a firearm to a six year old? Can't the SIX year old be allowed to maintain some sort of childhood innocence at least until they're seven? What age (attended) would be the right age to introduce guns and ammo to children, five, four?

No disrespect taken, Kevin, some kids are much more mature / responsible than others, even at that age - on the other hand, one of my own kids, at 6 and 7 years old, had anger management issues severe enough that my wife and I decided to have NO guns in the house at any time. It seemed to be the correct approach as 45 years later, all resolved OK..




Rick

[Bob Adams]

Every time this type of incident occurs, and it happens way too often, I repeat my call for safe storage laws. The person who allowed the gun to get into this child's hand should be dealt with most severely. The law would be no burden to responsible gun owners, we already store our weapons securely.

[Paul Pless]

The law would be no burden to responsible gun owners, we already store our weapons securely.

the law would be a burden upon the firearm industry though
which is why such is repeatedly shot down
shall not be infringed, bitches

[Bob Adams]

the law would be a burden upon the firearm industry though
which is why such is repeatedly shot down
shall not be infringed, bitches

Why? There would be plenty of money to be made in secure yet quickly accessible storage systems.

[heimlaga]

As I have always said. Handguns and automatic guns and semi automatic guns taking more than 6 rounds have no place in a civilized country except in the hands of police and military personel. Only to be used against invading Russcists and the like.

[SKIP KILPATRICK]

As I have always said. Handguns and automatic guns and semi automatic guns taking more than 6 rounds have no place in a civilized country except in the hands of police and military personel. Only to be used against invading Russcists and the like.

You are not wrong. Unfortunately, far to few of my fellow Americans agree with us.

[Bob Adams]

As I have always said. Handguns and automatic guns and semi automatic guns taking more than 6 rounds have no place in a civilized country except in the hands of police and military personel. Only to be used against invading Russcists and the like.

Number of rounds available wouldn't seem to be an issue in this case.

[birlinn]

Number of rounds available wouldn't seem to be an issue in this case.

But handguns would....

[Bob Adams]

But handguns would....

Sure, which brings us back to how did the kid get the gun?

[David W Pratt]

To post #17, no disrespect intended, by why the use of the "(unattended)"? And I am assuming by the introduction of the parenthetical that it might be okay to introduce a gun and ammunition to a six year with adult supervision.

Is there really a situation where it is proper to introduce a firearm to a six year old? Can't the SIX year old be allowed to maintain some sort of childhood innocence at least until they're seven? What age (attended) would be the right age to introduce guns and ammo to children, five, four?

Six, or thereabouts, might be a good time to start teaching a child about the proper behavior around firearms. Good education has a way of reducing misuse.

[Breakaway]

Supervision and parental responsibility are great things as applied to the children and grandchildren who occupy the tidy and comfortable homes of WBF members.

But these are subordinate to survival for children raised in a world of drug dealing, prostitution and other crime.

Kevin


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[skuthorp]

Six, or thereabouts, might be a good time to start teaching a child about the proper behavior around firearms. Good education has a way of reducing misuse.

"Good Education'' has failed David, the gun lobby rules and you all better get used to the resultant death toll. If as many were killed and injured by crashing planes there would be a different attitude…… OTOH you put up with several OS adventures based on lies that cost thousands of lives, and a mis-managed Covid response so maybe America just accepts this as 'normal'.

[Peerie Maa]

Six, or thereabouts, might be a good time to start teaching a child about the proper behavior around firearms. Good education has a way of reducing misuse.

Better yet, six is a good time to teach them to control their temper.

[John Smith]

Haven't you been paying attention? The problem is books, which are getting banned.

[skuthorp]

Books? Well I agree there's a couple, or maybe a tad more, that have been causing trouble for a deal of centuries for a start. We could well have done without any of them.