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    Default Georgia vote. Something I just realized.

    I’m slow on the uptake, but I just realized that a Warnock victory would probably dilute Manchin’s power to disrupt.
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    Right now, with a 50-50 Senate, each Senate committee has an equal number of Dems and Repubs on them making it harder to approve federal judgeships and other things. Schumer has to jump through a few other procedural hoops to get that done.
    With a 51-49 Senate, Dems can put another Dem on the committees and more easily pass their agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    Which means that Manchin and Sinema will have to work more closely together, to disrupt.
    Certainly diluting their power isn't a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    I’m slow on the uptake, but I just realized that a Warnock victory would probably dilute Manchin’s power to disrupt.
    More importantly it gives the Dems complete control over committees instead of controlling half

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    I’m slow on the uptake, but I just realized that a Warnock victory would probably dilute Manchin’s power to disrupt.
    The Democrats will argue that the filibuster must be kept. That way they can talk the talk and avoid walking the walk.

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    Some Dems want to keep the filibuster. Many do not.

    Like the Electoral College, it's a vestigial remnant of kowtowing to slavery interests.
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    From what I've seen of him, "Hushel" would be disruptive of friend and foe, alike.

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    It could be interesting to see the Regressives fight over who was going to be his minder to make sure he voted the "right" way.
    A society predicated on the assumption that everyone in it should want to get rich is not well situated to become either ethical or imaginative.

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    For the life of me I cannot understand how this could even be a contest. Yet here we are.
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    I'm afraid to go to sleep for fear of a sudden rock in the channel.

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    There was a quick item on the WaPo today talking with some Georgia voters. None of the Walker voters were voting for him. They were all voting for the party.

    And they were all white.
    A society predicated on the assumption that everyone in it should want to get rich is not well situated to become either ethical or imaginative.

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    Sure is close

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    Georgia has to be one f'd up state if it votes in an ex-football player who barely got out of high school to one of the highest elected offices in our country.
    We won't know until morning, if then, who won.
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    We lived in Georgia for twenty years. County sheriffs had a lot of influence, especially the smaller counties (159 of them, each sized by tradition so it 'wasn't more than a day's ride to the county seat'.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    Georgia has to be one f'd up state if it votes in an ex-football player who barely got out of high school to one of the highest elected offices in our country.
    We won't know until morning, if then, who won.
    But let's get down to the really important question: vampire or werewolf?
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    With about 90% of the votes counted, and the bulk of the remaining to come from Dem strongholds, the race is called for Warnock.

    But it's still very tight.

    Which leaves me standing with those who are dumbfounded that ANYONE could take Walker seriously as a candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post

    Which leaves me standing with those who are dumbfounded that ANYONE could take Walker seriously as a candidate.
    shows you just how much the dems suck ass

    this should have been a slam dunk
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    Warnock wins!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Which leaves me standing with those who are dumbfounded that ANYONE could take Walker seriously as a candidate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    shows you just how much the dems suck ass

    this should have been a slam dunk
    It has nothing to do with Walker and nothing to do with Democratic campaigning. There are a lot of voters out there that will vote for whatever candidate the Republican party puts up and they will smile doing it. They could run a paper clip and the vote would be close.

    And Walker isn't much different from a paper clip.
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    Default Re: Georgia vote. Something I just realized.

    There were other Republicans in the primary that likely could have done better than Walker, but Walker won the primary because of Trump's endorsement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    shows you just how much the dems suck ass

    this should have been a slam dunk
    Or... how much the state of Georgia sucks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy W View Post
    There were other Republicans in the primary that likely could have done better than Walker, but Walker won the primary because of Trump's endorsement.
    cant wait to hear trump's denouncement of walker
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    It has nothing to do with Walker and nothing to do with Democratic campaigning. There are a lot of voters out there that will vote for whatever candidate the Republican party puts up and they will smile doing it. They could run a paper clip and the vote would be close.

    And Walker isn't much different from a paper clip.
    you wrote my post for me. not knowing this mystifies me more than walker's suitability for other than a helmet.

    trashing the millions who live in georgia makes me look up stupid acts by other states, including oregon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    cant wait to hear trump's denouncement of walker
    I wonder if he’ll stoop that low, oh nevermind.

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    Republicans have chosen a sugar-rush, easy-peasy, lazy approach. Lord help us if they'd dumped tRump in 2020 and pivoted to addressing real issues. Even if they were wrong, they'd have come across as sane enough that this midterm would have looked far more like a typical midterm --

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    The question looms: Given that Trump endorsed candidates haven't done all that well, will republicans in office be doing Trump's bidding, or, perhaps, think in terms of the what's best for the country?
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    Neither. They'll be acting in what they discern to be their own interest, or that of their funders. Which for the time being may be Trump, but in the longer term will be merely Trumpist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    shows you just how much the dems suck ass

    this should have been a slam dunk
    You may have that backwards as to who sucks
    We did after all turn a pistol toting Alabama boy into a tree hugger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    I wonder if he’ll stoop that low, oh nevermind.
    Reminds me of the old trope "What is lower than a snake?"

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    I'm sticking with 'Georgia Sucks'.

    Only by the thinnest of margins did they miss sending to THE U.S. SENATE... a candidate so bad that he will be remembered in history for being horrifically, egregiously, monumentally incompetent and ill-suited.



    “He should have never run for this seat,” said a person close to the campaign. His campaign loss, the person said, is largely because “Herschel had a ton of baggage he was not transparent about, and we were constantly behind the eight ball.”

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