Old Guy
West Wing
The West Wing is running on TV through the weekend.
It is staggering how the topics they wrestled with then are still the topics we wrestle with now - abortion, gun laws, the Middle East, radical Islam,... We haven't progressed much. In fact, we've lost ground.
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Re: West Wing
One of my all-time fave tv series.
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Re: West Wing
Over on the Ted Lasso thread someone called it the greatest TV show ever. I immediately thought of West Wing when I read it. Fantastic show (as is Ted Lasso).
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Re: West Wing
Lest we forget: “Hill Street Blues” & “NYPD Blue”.
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Re: West Wing
The episode with the interns filling in for speechwriters who quit was pretty sexist and diminishing. I'm surprised Sorkin wrote it that way.
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Old Guy
Re: West Wing
I had a different read. He (Will Baily?) has never had a real girlfriend. I think that came out in an earlier episode. The four female interns were there because the regular speech writers had all quit in protest. These were the professionals who stayed to do the job that they were underqualified for. I thought it was actually a respectful piece that made men look stupid.Originally Posted by rbgarr
"Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono
"Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers
"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx
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Re: West Wing
I'm a huge Sorkin fan, but he does have a streak of casual-misogynism that runs through A Few Good Men and Sportsnight and West Wing and Newsroom. Viewed in the time of creation it wouldn't have registered at all, it was always an element of some other very common trope. It's remarkable only in that it's inconsistent with what we know of the rest of his ethos.
"Visionary" is he who in every egg sees a carbonara.
Liberaltarian
Re: West Wing
Search YouTube for ‘Sorkinisms’…. He shamelessly reuses dialog over and over again.
(Regardless, I agree that WW was a fantastic show… I liked it so much, I actually bought the full DVD set.)
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Old Guy
Re: West Wing
How many times did he use "thing" in a single episode? "They're doing that thing... What was the decision on that thing... There's that thing..."
"Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono
"Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers
"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx
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