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    Default Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    There isn't much info on builds of Vivier's Aber design online so thought I should start a thread on mine, even though I haven't done very well at documenting.

    This is my 3rd boat after a Nutshell pram and Wee Rob canoe, both from plans. This time I went with a kit from Jordan Boats. Partly due to the limited time I can spend on this and also I have a smallish workspace so having pre cut planks helps. So far I have found the kit very accurate and a considerable time saver.

    I went with the Aber rather than more popular Ilur as i slightly prefer the looks and also felt the Ilur was a bit bigger than I need. The Ilur probably would have been a more practical option once completed but I am happy with the choice so far.

    I am currently 4 planks in to the planking. Prior to setting up the frame I assembled the centreboard case, made the centreboard from Douglas Fir strips and build stem and transom knee from fir. Since then planking has begun and has gone on fine so far. I paused after the second pair to build up the keel, which is laminated from strips of Sapele and currently awaiting final shaping.

    I am planning to go a bit off plan once the planking is finished, rather than full laminated or steamed frames I am intending to do partial frames as per the Ross Lillistone build shown in the galley on Vivier's website-
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    I haven't fully worked out the detail of this but think it should be a bit easier than full frames and keep the weight down. I am keen for a light-ish build as ideally I would like to be able to launch/recover off a launching trolley without needing a vehicle (remains to be seen if this is possible).

    Not many photos so far, but if there is interest in the build will try and keep a track as I go on.

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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    Absolutely there is interest! Looks like you are off to a good start.

    I built an Ilur from plans and I love it! What type of rig will you go with?

    Mike

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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    Thanks Michael, I think I’ve seen your build thread, very impressive!

    I’m going with the boom less standing lug rig. Absence of a boom is attractive as I’ve got young kids and will probably use the boat for multi purpose sailing/rowing/motoring/fishing trips

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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    Hi,
    I am building my 2nd Iain Oughtred design - Iain's boats do not have frames though they do have floors, breasthooks, inwales & cross-hull thwarts which provide stiffness. I was dubious at first but am now convinced that I do not need to add frames into the hull.

    So, I do wonder if your build really needs frames/ribs added in to the hull?

    My father was born in Perthshire & lived in Blairgowrie - he called it Gods country :-)

    Regards Neil

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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    I'm watching
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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    Been a while since I have posted anything on this, I have been working away sporadically and last week completed the planking. Because I am building in a small-ish space it is difficult to get a good look at the lines from a decent angle, side on it is looking OK but keen to see it right side up!
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    I have also got the outer stem and false keel fitted, although both still needing some further shaping, and tidying up of the centreboard cut out.

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    I was concerned about the ply edges of the garboards where they are cut at the centreboard case, this seemed like a potential area of water ingress in the longer term and probably very difficult to fix. I think some put some glass in this area but I wasn't too keen on that, instead a routed out approx 10mm wide channel either side of the opening and epoxied in a strip of solid wood, then planed it down and cut out the slot again with the trim router bit. Hopefully this reduces risk in this area, no exposed plywood end grain buried in the centrboard area.

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    I should probably sand and paint while it is upside down but I am not keen to do that now, plan is to flip over shortly and start on the fit out, will flip back again once the inside is done. I think a summer 2022 launch is looking challenging!

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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    It will be an easy enough boat to flip, I say do the jobs that are calling to you.

    You're right though, a 2022 launch is going to be tough considering it is 2023...
    Steve

    If you would have a good boat, be a good guy when you build her - honest, careful, patient, strong.
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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    I’m watching.
    I will steal your sole centre case detail and use it on my Morby but will construct a fully mitered rectangle to eliminate all end grain and the need to slot.
    I have been considering adding some extra run to the false stem so it connects with the skeg similar to yours as well.
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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    Quote Originally Posted by stromborg View Post

    You're right though, a 2022 launch is going to be tough considering it is 2023...

    Ignore this negativity! The only way to get there is to believe in yourself. I'm rooting for you.

    - James

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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    Managed to get the boat flipped over the weekend. Plenty of cleaning up to do but ignoring that for now and starting on gunwhales and frames
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    Iím still to glue the centreboard case in, just sat it in the check it fits (seems to!)

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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    Looks great :-) As you suggest some floors, knees, breasthook, inwales, etc............... will stiffen her up quick sharp................... I bought a narrow (about 12mm wide) belt sander for my recent build and it made cleaning up to the edges of the planks inside a lot quicker & easier.

    Regards Neil

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    Default Re: Vivier Aber Build- Scotland

    Just a thought... it's much easier to do the interior clean-up, sanding etc before you do a lot of other interior stuff...
    The build looks great!

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