curious handplane like artifice

[Paul Pless]

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[L.W. Baxter]

that would be very useful clearing out a big ol timber notch that you have kerfed with a saw.

[David G]

I own two of the modern version. One flat, one curved. Don't get used often, but are occasionally the cat's meow --

https://www.amazon.com/Planer-Type-S...18788677&psc=1

[Toxophilite]

Rasp!

[David G]

Rasp!

Yes, but of a specific sort.

[Paul Pless]

i would call it 'rasp like' at best

the manufacturer declares one very specific purpose for it

[Canoez]

I own two of the modern version. One flat, one curved. Don't get used often, but are occasionally the cat's meow --

https://www.amazon.com/Planer-Type-Shinto-Saw-Rasp/dp/B001AWZ4S0/ref=asc_df_B001AWZ4S0?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80401840125272&hvnetw=o&hvq mt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid pla-4584001418788677&psc=1

Have you tried the Iwasaki files with the milled teeth?

[David G]

Have you tried the Iwasaki files with the milled teeth?

No. I don't use rasps & files often enough to spend that kinda money on them. Are they as delicious as I imagine them to be for that price?

[Canoez]

No. I don't use rasps & files often enough to spend that kinda money on them. Are they as delicious as I imagine them to be for that price?

Very much worth it if you have a project that requires sculpting a shape without tearing grain or difficult figure. Quite useful as a float for wooden planes, too.

[J P]

We use a somewhat similar shop-made tool on timber surfaces when we need to touch up or mimic a band-milled saw texture. Ours are pretty crude – just straight bits of bandsaw blades welded together with a handle.

the manufacturer declares one very specific purpose for it

What is the declared purpose?

[gypsie]

What is the declared purpose?

rasping in curves?

I can't picture how using that tool would not scratch nice deep grooves one way or the other.
while the front part is being a rasping, the back is being a saw.

Reused hack saw blades?

[David G]

rasping in curves?

I can't picture how using that tool would not scratch nice deep grooves one way or the other.
while the front part is being a rasping, the back is being a saw.

Reused hack saw blades?

The common Shinto Rasp is marketed as a 'SawRasp'. It has a coarser face, and a smoother face. The purpose is fast, rough, initial stock removal. Being flat, it does a decent job of initial flattening of short stock also. And, for as aggressive as it is... it leaves a smoother surface than you'd expect. Not ready for finish, but ready for a few swipes with a plane, or with a belt sander.

[Paul Pless]

cleaning butcher blocks

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[Canoeyawl]

All end grain...
finish with this:

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https://www.jimbodetools.com/product...k-plane-104267

[Andrew2]

I have something similar, with angled 'toothed blades' running across the width. It is for facing soft stone.

[David G]

I have something similar, with angled 'toothed blades' running across the width. It is for facing soft stone.

Interesting stuff. Do you have a foto, by chance?

[wizbang 13]

oh baby I could TOOTH up some stuff wif dat!

[jpatrick]

The Shinto rasps work super well for cleaning up epoxy. The WB store has the best price that I've seen. I was't aware they make a curved model. I could get onboard with that!

Jeff

[David G]

The Shinto rasps work super well for cleaning up epoxy. The WB store has the best price that I've seen. I was't aware they make a curved model. I could get onboard with that!

Jeff

I didn't provide a link to the curved model because I can't find a source. It didn't come from the 'Shinto' people. Mine came by way of an older boatbuilder who was passing along some of his tools as he stepped back. No English label at all. Just a bit of (Japanese?) etched onto the metal. Maybe it was originally a temple-building tool? If I were REALLY curious... I'd contact one of the importers - Japan Tools, Osaka Tools, etc. - and ask if they can shed any light.

[Canoez]

Japan Woodworker got swallowed up by WoodCraft, so some of that stuff is now found there. I've looked at WoodCraft, Osaka, and others and haven't found other than the straight version of these rasps in about 7-11" lengths. Some have the offset handle, some don't. I think the curved version you have may be a Dodo at this point.

[Andrew2]

Interesting stuff. Do you have a foto, by chance?

Will try tomorrow. Our local stone is relatively soft and can be cut with a hard toothed saw. All our doors and windows have cut blocks for the frames and corners of the building, with smaller stone infill.

[J P]

cleaning butcher blocks

Interesting. With the bend in the blades of the OP tool I wouldn’t have guessed that was the intended purpose. Makes sense though.

Footnote: Those Shinto rasps work well for hoof rasping. I also like the little Surform Shaver (21-115) with the small convex blades set to cut on the pull stroke. Very handy for trimming donkey feet where I have to hold the hoof with one hand and the tool with t’other.

[john welsford]

I own two of the modern version. One flat, one curved. Don't get used often, but are occasionally the cat's meow --

https://www.amazon.com/Planer-Type-S...18788677&psc=1

Yup, I have two, there are time, as you say David, when they're just the right thing for the job.

John Welsford

[John Meachen]

I once read a description of something similar being made by brazing pieces of broken bandsaw blades together.

[The Q]

This is the UK equivalent.
https://www.uktoolcentre.co.uk/hand-...es-and-planes/,
I have a couple of them, very useful at times.

[David G]

This is the UK equivalent.
https://www.uktoolcentre.co.uk/hand-...es-and-planes/,
I have a couple of them, very useful at times.

Yes, similar. I have a couple of configurations of the Surform. Not nearly as aggressive, but good for some tasks. Then, I have a few Microplane types. Even LESS aggressive, but the right tool for some jobs. Including shaving fresh parmesan over pasta <G>

https://www.microplane.com/

[L.W. Baxter]

All end grain...
finish with this:

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https://www.jimbodetools.com/product...k-plane-104267

for a flat, hard finish.

but the thing in the o.p. makes me wonder. did or do some butchers go for a "fuzzy" finish on the block? one that would provide some friction so that your meat would not slide as much? and would provide a soft landing for the blade when cutting vigorously? i could see that. and i would also imagine regularly cleaning with that doohickey, as opposed to with water and scrubby.

[jpatrick]

Both the raspy thing in the OP and the plane posted by Canoeyawl are old tools. What do butchers use nowadays, I wonder?

Probably UHMW cutting boards.

Jeff

[lupussonic]

Artifact.

[David G]

Artifact.

'Artifice' is how it's spelled... in some houses.

[Stiletto]

'Artifice' is how it's spelled... in some houses.

Artifice in the original context is used to denote a clever device. It is not a synonym.

[Peerie Maa]

Both the raspy thing in the OP and the plane posted by Canoeyawl are old tools. What do butchers use nowadays, I wonder?

Jeff

A scrubbing brush.

[David G]

Artifice in the original context is used to denote a clever device. It is not a synonym.

Artifice does indeed mean a clever device. But it also carries a heavy connotation of an intent to mislead or deceive. Since the OP artifact has nothing to do with deception...

Whereas 'artifact' carries a heavy connotation of being archaic and/or arcane. A tool/object used in certain cultures, or in certain historical periods, but now rare of obsolete. Like the device in the OP.

But, if you are living, for the moment, as a member of famous French royalty, in the house of Henry IV, you might inadvertently spell it that way.