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  • SKIP KILPATRICK
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 13573

    #16
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    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Years before he allegedly walked into a Colorado LGBTQ bar with an assault-style rifle, the man now known as Anderson Lee Aldrich had a different name, and a tumultuous past.

    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Until age 15, he was known as Nicholas Brink, living in San Antonio, public records show. His parents separated when he was a toddler, and when he was 12, his mother, Laura Voepel, was arrested for suspected arson, according to court documents. She was later found guilty of a lesser offense in connection with the same incident.[/COLOR]

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    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]At age 15, he became the target of a particularly vicious bout of online bullying in which insulting accusations were posted to a website, along with his name, photos and online aliases, according to a review of the site by The Washington Post. At some point, a YouTube account was created under his name, featuring a crude, profanity-laden animation under the title, “Asian homosexual gets molested.”[COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]For unstated reasons, just before his 16th birthday, the young man petitioned a Texas court — with two of his grandparents’ names on the document — to legally change his entire name. His mother’s name did not appear on the petition.[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Nicholas F. Brink became Anderson Lee Aldrich, who, at age 22, would gain infamy as the suspected shooter accused of killing at least five people and wounding 18 others inside the Colorado Springs bar known as Club Q. The reasons behind the choice of the new name were unclear.[/COLOR]

    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Whether the events of Aldrich’s childhood had any bearing on Saturday’s horrific violence is unknown. But Aldrich’s earlier existence as Nicholas Brink, reported for the first time, offers possible answers to several key mysteries surrounding the suspected gunman. Public records and databases were oddly silent about Aldrich for the first two decades of his life.
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    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]For unstated reasons, just before his 16th birthday, the young man petitioned a Texas court — with two of his grandparents’ names on the document — to legally change his entire name. His mother’s name did not appear on the petition.[/COLOR]

    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Nicholas F. Brink became Anderson Lee Aldrich, who, at age 22, would gain infamy as the suspected shooter accused of killing at least five people and wounding 18 others inside the Colorado Springs bar known as Club Q. The reasons behind the choice of the new name were unclear.[/COLOR]

    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Whether the events of Aldrich’s childhood had any bearing on Saturday’s horrific violence is unknown. But Aldrich’s earlier existence as Nicholas Brink, reported for the first time, offers possible answers to several key mysteries surrounding the suspected gunman. Public records and databases were oddly silent about Aldrich for the first two decades of his life.

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints confirmed in a statement to The Post that the alleged shooter was on the membership rolls of the church but had not been active in the Colorado Springs locations to the best of their knowledge.

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    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]The church, which until 2019 described people in same-sex marriages as “apostates,” condemned the shooting in a statement: “The senseless act of violence in Colorado Springs is of great sadness and concern to us. We are greatly troubled by any violence in our communities and condemn most especially violent acts that are the result of intolerance against any of God’s children.”[/COLOR]

    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]The mayor of Colorado Springs had said the shooting had “the trappings of a hate crime.” Asked Monday if the federal authorities would bring hate crime charges, Cole Finegan, the U.S. attorney for Colorado, said the Justice Department was “looking at all aspects of this case.”[/COLOR]

    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Until now, no formal charges have been filed, and police remained tight-lipped about key details of the case. On Monday, Michael J. Allen, the district attorney for the area that includes Colorado Springs, said that Aldrich was likely to face murder and “bias-motivated” charges in connection with his arrest. Allen said formal charges were forthcoming.

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    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Speaking at a news conference, Allen said records from the Club Q case had been placed under seal. His office had requested they be sealed, saying in a filing Monday morning that releasing them “could jeopardize” the prosecution.[/COLOR]

    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Aldrich remained hospitalized Monday, and authorities declined to discuss his medical condition. Allen declined to say whether Aldrich had spoken with law enforcement. Officials have also declined to shed any light on when, how, or where, Aldrich obtained his weapon.[/COLOR]

    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Allen noted that in Colorado, the charges connected with killing people at the club “will likely carry life in prison without parole,” so the bias-related charges would not “elevate the potential sentence.”[/COLOR]


    [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]It is “important to let the community know that we do not tolerate bias-motivated crimes in this community,” he said.
    City officials said the toll from the shooting could have been far worse. Republican Mayor John Suthers said in an interview that at least one club patron disarmed the gunman during the attack by grabbing his weapon and hitting him in the head with it. “In fact,” Suthers said, “there was a patron on top of the gunman.”
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    • SKIP KILPATRICK
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 13573

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      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Suthers and other officials deflected questions about whether Aldrich’s 2021 arrest could have led to a legal action, perhaps under Colorado’s 2019 red-flag law, to prevent the suspect from obtaining a weapon.
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      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]“Law enforcement agencies in appropriate circumstances should take advantage of it,” Suthers said of the law. “Hopefully there will be a time when there can be a specific discussion about any prior interaction with law enforcement.”
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      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]In 2019, Colorado’s legislature passed a red-flag law, which gave citizens and police departments the ability to petition a judge to have a Colorado resident’s weapons confiscated if the petitioner demonstrates that person is a danger to themselves or others.

      New details about Aldrich’s 2021 incident emerged on Monday, shedding light on his disturbing behavior at the time. A video obtained by CNN appeared to show moments from a standoff between Aldrich and sheriff’s deputies who responded to reports of a bomb threat.


      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Leslie Bowman, who owns the home where the standoff took place and where Aldrich’s mother had been renting a room at the time, said she made a copy of the video, which has since been deleted from social-media platforms.[/COLOR]


      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]The brief video reportedly shows a few seconds of an agitated young man — identified by Bowman as Aldrich — wearing a helmet and some type of body armor, and challenging law enforcement to breach the house where he had holed up. The video does not actually show any officers outside the house, and it’s not clear from the recording whether Aldrich had any weapons inside.[/COLOR]

      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Little is known about what led to the confrontation. But records from Aldrich’s past as Nicholas Brink offer some insight into his formative years.[/COLOR]

      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Brink was born in 2000 as the only son of Aaron and Laura (nee Voepel) Brink, of Orange, Calif., and a year later, in July 2001, the couple separated. Their divorce was finalized in September 2001, court records showed. Brink’s maternal grandfather is state Rep. Randy Voepel, a Republican assemblyman who in the past has aligned himself with the tea party movement and spoken in favor of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. Voepel lost his seat in November after a redistricting change altered his Riverside County district.

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      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Leslie Bowman, who owns the home where the standoff took place and where Aldrich’s mother had been renting a room at the time, said she made a copy of the video, which has since been deleted from social-media platforms.[/COLOR]


      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]The brief video reportedly shows a few seconds of an agitated young man — identified by Bowman as Aldrich — wearing a helmet and some type of body armor, and challenging law enforcement to breach the house where he had holed up. The video does not actually show any officers outside the house, and it’s not clear from the recording whether Aldrich had any weapons inside.[/COLOR]

      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Little is known about what led to the confrontation. But records from Aldrich’s past as Nicholas Brink offer some insight into his formative years.[/COLOR]

      [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Brink was born in 2000 as the only son of Aaron and Laura (nee Voepel) Brink, of Orange, Calif., and a year later, in July 2001, the couple separated. Their divorce was finalized in September 2001, court records showed. Brink’s maternal grandfather is state Rep. Randy Voepel, a Republican assemblyman who in the past has aligned himself with the tea party movement and spoken in favor of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. Voepel lost his seat in November after a redistricting change altered his Riverside County district.[/COLOR]







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      • SKIP KILPATRICK
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 13573

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        [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]The family was living in San Antonio at the time of Laura Voepel’s arrest on arson-related charges in 2012. The case wound its way through a Texas court for several years, and according to court records, the defendant was ordered to undergo psychological evaluations and mandatory drug testing. Her trial resulted in the dismissal of the arson charge but she was found guilty on a lesser charge of criminal mischief.
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        [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]The YouTube account under Brink’s name was opened in 2010, with a note to viewers of the channel that read, “wazzap guys, please help and subscribe.” The crude animation with the “Asian homosexual” label was added in 2012. The video received more than 300 views.
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        [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]The online bullying incident that targeted Brink included photos of the then-15-year-old youth posted to a Wikipedia-like website, along

        [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]fictitious biography riddled with insults and ridicule.[/COLOR]

        [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Months later, on April 28, 2016, a petition was filed in a Bexar County, Tex., court requesting a legal name change for the young man. The formal order, issued a week later, appeared under the simple heading: “Nicholas F. Brink to Anderson L. Aldrich.”[/COLOR]

        [COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-gray40)]Klemko reported from Colorado Springs. Mark Berman and Hannah Allam contributed to this report.[/COLOR]

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        • Dave Lesser
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2004
          • 2477

          #19
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          The suspected gunman in a mass shooting at an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado is the grandson of a California state lawmaker who compared the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the American revolution. [San Diego Union Tribune]
          One of the great things about this forum is that we don't all have to accumulate the same scar tissue.
          AJ Zimm

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          • skuthorp
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2002
            • 73698

            #20
            Re: Condolence thread for mass murder…...



            Ten in a Walmart……….

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            • birlinn
              Isle of Mull, Scotland
              • Jul 2011
              • 10877

              #21
              Re: Condolence thread for mass murder…...

              Sadly this thread title will finish up being a sticky.
              The US seems to have an awful lot that love their guns but hate other people.

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              • skuthorp
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2002
                • 73698

                #22
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                "other" being the operative word……………….

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                • Chris Coose
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 12283

                  #23
                  Re: Condolence thread for mass murder…...

                  I get a kick when people say, " Yeah, but it's kinda dangerous living in Mexico, isn't it."
                  Study Peace

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                  • Durnik
                    Out 'n About
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 11572

                    #24
                    Re: Condolence thread for mass murder…...

                    ^ ikr?

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                    • Decourcy
                      Wood butcher
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 4463

                      #25
                      Re: Condolence thread for mass murder…...

                      Originally posted by Dan McCosh
                      And the guy who beat him was immediately arrested.

                      And released as soon as the cops figured out what was actually going on

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                      • SKIP KILPATRICK
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 13573

                        #26
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                        Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin reacted to Tuesday night's mass shooting in Chesapeake, calling it a "shocking stark reality."
                        "We overnight, again, had a, just a horrendous senseless act of violence in Chesapeake, and the investigation is ongoing," Youngkin said. "Our hearts are just completely broken this morning yet again in the commonwealth of Virginia."
                        "We have had two horrific acts of violence in the commonwealth of Virginia in two weeks and that absolutely brings with it a sense of anger, a sense of fear, a sense of deep deep grief," he said.

                        Youngkin also said the community must focus on helping the grieving families.
                        "Today our job is to support families, who are facing unthinkable today. Families who have lost a loved one or have a loved one who is injured," he said, adding that "we must stay focused on families, we must stay focused on the brave men and women who are doing the investigation."

                        "but don't worry! I won't let anyone take your guns!" Youngkin mused, "Shall not be infringed bitches!" and then made a fist pump.
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                        • Gill
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 413

                          #27
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                          Originally posted by Chris Coose
                          I get a kick when people say, " Yeah, but it's kinda dangerous living in Mexico, isn't it."

                          A country with the 13th highest homicide rate in the world in 2022 at 29 per 100k isn't dangerous? Okay, good to know.

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                          • David G
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 89937

                            #28
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                            Just to be clear... I did not delete this thread either <G>
                            David G
                            Harbor Woodworks
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                            "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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                            • David G
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 89937

                              #29
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                              Originally posted by Gill
                              A country with the 13th highest homicide rate in the world in 2022 at 29 per 100k isn't dangerous? Okay, good to know.
                              That's one metric. How much it has to do with a resident being safe in that country is an open question. Possibly helpful. Possibly almost totally emblematic. Possibly mostly misleading. There are lots of metrics, and a reality that also needs some words in order to illuminate the reality. But, truthfully, throwing it out like that in an apparent effort to bolster a hypothesis... does more to raise questions than to offer answers. At best - sloppy rhetoric. At worst - a deliberate effort to misrepresent reality in an effort to support your own pre-conceived notions.

                              In the words of one great contemporary philosopher: 'Be Better'
                              Last edited by David G; 11-23-2022, 12:08 PM.
                              David G
                              Harbor Woodworks
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                              "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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                              • LeeG
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2002
                                • 73004

                                #30
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                                I was in Walmart yesterday. A guy about ten years younger than me and 200lbs heavier was wearing a tank top extolling his ability to do violence against those who hurt his family. I forget the phrasing but he wasn’t armed. Did have some sturdy support socks. Kind of a Charles Bronson/John Wick meme of vengeance but not well represented.

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