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    This is big.

    4 dams on the Klamath River scheduled for removal. Whoot!

    [Onwards! To the Columbia, Hetch Hetchy, and beyond!]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Carey View Post
    This is big.

    4 dams on the Klamath River scheduled for removal. Whoot!

    [Onwards! To the Columbia, Hetch Hetchy, and beyond!]
    Hetch Hetchy may be a bit difficult - it supplies the water to a lot of the bay area. Not that you're wrong about the sentiment but still, it's very unlikely.

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    the reds hate 'lectric cars
    but love the dams

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    Any of them got any water?

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    I know nothing of these dams, but have people built houses on the shorelines of the reservoirs? If so, their property value is going to plummet, leaving them with nothing but a stinking mess.
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    their property line will plummet a bit as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizbang 13 View Post
    the reds hate 'lectric cars
    but love the dams
    They hate nature. She delivered the dream of omnipotence but not the means. What a C tease.
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    I bet fly fishing just got a boost!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    I know nothing of these dams, but have people built houses on the shorelines of the reservoirs? If so, their property value is going to plummet, leaving them with nothing but a stinking mess.

    That's an interesting observation.

    Sometimes, properties bounded by water are littoral or riparian in nature and are platted to the waterline. If it moves your property can shrink or grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    I know nothing of these dams, but have people built houses on the shorelines of the reservoirs? If so, their property value is going to plummet, leaving them with nothing but a stinking mess.
    On the bright side, their property may increase in size, though, their tax bill might increase as well ( Or maybe the state takes over the " new " land, since it really owned it all along?)

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    Good to get rid of that nasty solar power.

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    Interesting. Here in Maine we have four dams on the Kennebec that have been proposed for removal. Total electric generation is around 35-40mw, which sounds like a lot. The power station that I used to work at used about 27mw of station service(the electricity needed to run the pumps and fans etc) at full load. I’m retired, my next door neighbor just installed 10mw of solar on about twenty acres. No oil spills or gasses.
    Removing those dams on the kennebec will open up the best salmon spawning in Maine, and may even result in a resurgence of the coastal fishery when the historical nutrients are no longer trapped behind the dams.
    And if it doesn’t work the dams can be rebuilt with more efficient generators.
    To include a not insignificant construction jobs.

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    Don’t forget the sand which (sandwiches?) is trapped behind the dams, that will now flow to the ocean to replenish the beaches. The anadromous fish will certainly benefit as well.

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    Damned? Don't you mean Doomed?

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    The ecosystem surrounding the Elwa responded faster and better than expected after dams on it were removed. Hopefully the Klamath will see good results as well.
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    The fish on the Elwha responded so fast people were dancing in the streets. Imagine salmon under Mt. Anderson.

    Rebuilding the dam lake beds, however, is a much slower process.
    A society predicated on the assumption that everyone in it should want to get rich is not well situated to become either ethical or imaginative.

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