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  • ShelbyBoats
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 73

    Galvanized Screws

    Hello everyone, looking for some advice for a source of HDG wood screws for a build I am doing. I know that silicon bronze is the go-to when it comes to fasteners in wooden boats, but I am trying to follow the plans as exactly as I can. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
  • cstevens
    Dreaming of a boat
    • Nov 2014
    • 6359

    #2
    Re: Galvanized Screws

    Admiral Ship Supply in Port Townsend carries high quality HDG wood screws and they ship.

    - Chris

    Any single boat project will always expand to encompass the set of all possible boat projects.

    Life is short. Go boating now!

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    • J.Madison
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 4000

      #3
      Re: Galvanized Screws

      Standard fastenings is reputed to be very high quality if you need a large order. I dont think they do retail quantities.

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      • Garret
        Hills of Vermont
        • Apr 2005
        • 48691

        #4
        Re: Galvanized Screws

        Opinion Warning!

        Having owned an old boat originally put together with galvanized fastenings, I will never, ever put a galvanized screw in a boat. OK - maybe some beat up old rowboat that's going to fall apart in 5 years anyway, but the hours of removing rusted screws & the damage to the wood around them, nope - not on anything I care about.

        End of opinion
        "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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        • johngsandusky
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2003
          • 5569

          #5
          Re: Galvanized Screws

          When I built my Glen-L Topper in '87, I think I bought the galvanized screws from them. That boat lasted decades outside.

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          • sp_clark
            Here Before, Earlier Life
            • Sep 2015
            • 1828

            #6
            Re: Galvanized Screws

            Originally posted by ShelbyBoats
            I know that silicon bronze is the go-to when it comes to fasteners in wooden boats....
            Fresh water usage or salty? Not intended to be afloat for days, weeks, just for a few hours?

            Depending on how many and of what sizes, is there much of a cost savings with HDG over SB fasteners?
            "Because we are not divine, we must jettison the many burdens we cannot bear."

            Mark Helprin, 2017

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            • UCanoe_2
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 1790

              #7
              Re: Galvanized Screws

              What are you building, Shelby?

              Some older plans do specify galvanized fasteners, but your boat will last longer if you upgrade. You can't avoid chipping the galvanizing when you drive the screws, and that will provide a place for rust to begin. If you are interested in saving money, stainless steel is less expensive than bronze. You could use bronze below the waterline and stainless above.
              "George Washington as a boy
              was ignorant of the commonest
              accomplishments of youth.
              He could not even lie."

              -- Mark Twain

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              • hawkeye54
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2017
                • 7497

                #8
                Re: Galvanized Screws

                Anecdotal information - when I was in 7th grade ( late 1950's ) I built a table lamp from oak glued to cherry, the base was attached to the top of the lamp with 4 galvanized flathead wood screws . That lamp followed me around for the past 60 years, never exposed to the weather, and I started to rebuild it last year ( needed a small project ) - I was quite surprised to have the screws just about drop out, and discovered considerable rust on the screws and lots of 'iron sickness' in the oak.



                Rick
                Charter Member - - Professional Procrastinators Association of America - - putting things off since 1965 " I'll get around to it tomorrow, .... maybe "

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                • pcford
                  boatwright/film/video
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 9881

                  #9
                  Re: Galvanized Screws

                  Yes to the above problems with galvy screws. Add to that the issue that you cannot get galvy in square drive.

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                  • wizbang 13
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 24904

                    #10
                    Re: Galvanized Screws

                    One does not KNOW if the galvanizing is any good until 40 years later.
                    mine seem fine after 39 years
                    Last edited by wizbang 13; 11-04-2022, 06:33 AM.

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                    • ShelbyBoats
                      Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 73

                      #11
                      Re: Galvanized Screws

                      I am building a 1950's style rowboat and I am trying to follow the plans as closely as possible. The boat will never live in the water and will always be kept in my barn, its my first attempt at building a boat and for what it is I don't expect it to be show quality. I am not opposed to using SB, I am just can't believe how expensive they are, I just feel there has to be some other option.
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                      • pcford
                        boatwright/film/video
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 9881

                        #12
                        Re: Galvanized Screws

                        Originally posted by ShelbyBoats
                        I am building a 1950's style rowboat and I am trying to follow the plans as closely as possible. The boat will never live in the water and will always be kept in my barn, its my first attempt at building a boat and for what it is I don't expect it to be show quality. I am not opposed to using SB, I am just can't believe how expensive they are, I just feel there has to be some other option.
                        For this use I think stainless would be ok. You can get stainless in square drive.

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                        • Garret
                          Hills of Vermont
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 48691

                          #13
                          Re: Galvanized Screws

                          Originally posted by pcford
                          For this use I think stainless would be ok. You can get stainless in square drive.
                          But period correct out be slotted!

                          Let's rehash that debate, shall we?

                          Just kidding - I agree stainless would be the way to go for this.
                          "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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                          • wizbang 13
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 24904

                            #14
                            Re: Galvanized Screws

                            i recon good galv is better than cheap ss

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                            • John Meachen
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10505

                              #15
                              Re: Galvanized Screws

                              I suppose the same forty year test applies.....

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