Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Arizona...

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Central Coast, Ca

    Default Arizona...

    Letters from an American, Heather Cox Richardson:

    (The last three paragraphs are interesting)

    In Arizona, Pima County Superior Court Judge Kellie Johnson has restored a law put into effect by Arizona’s Territorial legislature in 1864 and then reworked in 1901 that has been widely interpreted as a ban on all abortions except to save a woman’s life. Oddly, I know quite a bit about the 1864 Arizona Territorial legislature, and its story matters as we think about the attempt to impose its will in modern America.

    In fact, the Civil War era law seems not particularly concerned with women handling their own reproductive care—it actually seems to ignore that practice entirely. The laws for this territory, chaotic and still at war in 1864, appear to reflect the need to rein in a lawless population of men.

    The criminal code talks about “miscarriage” in the context of other male misbehavior. It focuses at great length on dueling, for example— making illegal not only the act of dueling (punishable by three years in jail) but also having anything to do with a duel. And then, in the section that became the law now resurrected in Arizona, the law takes on the issue of poisoning.

    In that context, the context of punishing those who secretly administer poison to kill someone, it says that anyone who uses poison or instruments “with the intention to procure the miscarriage of any woman then being with child” would face two to five years in jail, “Provided, that no physician shall be affected by the last clause of this section, who in the discharge of his professional duties deems it necessary to produce the miscarriage of any woman in order to save her life.”

    The next section warns against cutting out tongues or eyes, slitting noses or lips, or “rendering…useless” someone’s arm or leg.

    The law that is currently interpreted to outlaw abortion care seemed designed to keep men in the chaos of the Civil War from inflicting damage on others—including pregnant women—rather than to police women’s reproductive care, which women largely handled on their own or through the help of doctors who used drugs and instruments to remove what they called dangerous blockages of women’s natural cycles in the four to five months before fetal movement became obvious.

    Written to police the behavior of men, the code tells a larger story about power and control.

    The Arizona Territorial legislature in 1864 had 18 men in the lower House of Representatives and 9 men in the upper house, the Council, for a total of 27 men. They met on September 26, 1864, in Prescott. The session ended about six weeks later, on November 10.

    The very first thing the legislators did was to authorize the governor to appoint a commissioner to prepare a code of laws for the territory. But William T. Howell, a judge who had arrived in the territory the previous December, had already written one, which the legislature promptly accepted as a blueprint.

    Although they did discuss his laws, the members later thanked Judge Howell for “preparing his excellent and able Code of Laws” and, as a mark of their appreciation, provided that the laws would officially be called “The Howell Code.” (They also paid him a handsome $2500, which was equivalent to at least 5 years’ salary for a workingman in that era.) Judge Howell wrote the territory’s criminal code essentially single-handedly.

    The second thing the legislature did was to give a member of the House of Representatives a divorce from his wife.

    Then they established a county road near Prescott.

    Then they gave a local army surgeon a divorce from his wife.

    In a total of 40 laws, the legislature incorporated a number of road companies, railway companies, ferry companies, and mining companies. They appropriated money for schools and incorporated the Arizona Historical Society.

    These 27 men constructed a body of laws to bring order to the territory and to jump-start development. But their vision for the territory was a very particular one.

    The legislature provided that “No black or mulatto, or Indian, Mongolian, or Asiatic, shall be permitted to [testify in court] against any white person,” thus making it impossible for them to protect their property, their families, or themselves from their white neighbors. It declared that “all marriages between a white person and a [Black person], shall…be absolutely void.”

    And it defined the age of consent for sexual intercourse to be just ten years old (even if a younger child had “consented”).

    So, in 1864, a legislature of 27 white men created a body of laws that discriminated against Black people and people of color and considered girls as young as 10 able to consent to sex, and they adopted a body of criminal laws written by one single man.

    And in 2022, one of those laws is back in force in Arizona.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Valley of the Sun

    Default Re: Arizona...

    this state needs more californians
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2002
    the hills

    Default Re: Arizona...

    Damn she set me up. Crazy times.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Modesto, CA

    Default Re: Arizona...

    It's getting worse...

    Kari Lake as a fascist: check this out.
    “Aren’t you supposed to be the gentlemen who lie for the good of their country?”
    “That’s diplomats. We’re not gentlemen.”
    “So you lie to save your hides.”
    That’s politicians. Different game entirely.”

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Portland, Oregon

    Default Re: Arizona...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    this state needs more californians
    Probably should institute a program to encourage in-migration from the states of Vermont, NJ, Oregon, and Mass.
    David G
    Harbor Woodworks

    "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Mountain lakes of Vermont

    Default Re: Arizona...

    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Probably should institute a program to encourage in-migration from the states of Vermont, NJ, Oregon, and Mass.
    Ain't no way in hell this Vermonter is ever moving to Aridzona!! Too damned hot and not enough water to float a boat!
    I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.
    Skiing is the next best thing to having wings.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts