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    Default Patience during the late stages of a build?

    I am starting to run low on patience and have screwed up a few things as a result a few screws were not centered and came through the chine log. A big glop of sikaflex stuck to the side. My general quality of work is declining. I’m questioning if I should have built something else or a wooden boat at all. The boat had to leave the basement per order of the Mrs.

    Is this normal? Or am I too tense?

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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    one nice thing about wooden boats is that they can be repaired

    getting in a hurry at your stage in the project is not in your favor

    get a comfortable moaning chair and a new coffee pot

    sit back and have a cuppa

    glops can be removed

    surfaces can be refinished

    screw tips can be backed out the holes can be filled and shorter screws can be used once new centered pilot holes have been drilled

    the boatbuilder who suffers no hiccups has knot been born

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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    What you’re describing is normal, at least to me. Consider making a very long checklist and at the bottom put “go sailing.” You can launch anytime and with the boat in any condition. It’s your boat. You can always fix stuff later that isn’t quite right.

    My Hvalsoe 18 has a small tan glob of Dolfinite smeared across the rear bulkhead. Been there for five years. I stare at it all the time and think “I need to get a chisel and snick that off.” Maybe someday.
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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    sounds more like a domestic problem than a boat problem.....building boats can’t be rushed
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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    Quote Originally Posted by Murky Deep View Post

    Is this normal? Or am I too tense?
    Both?
    the last 20% of the job takes 80% of the time, or something like that.
    As said above, a list and a cuppa will help. GL

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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    I trapped up an area under my deck. It’s all set now. And yes, coffee in a chair where I could stare and desensitize myself to my errors helps. Thanks

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    I have the same problem. I got my hull built fairly quickly, but the cleaning up and finishing is killing me. I'm a retired tool and die maker; you'd think I'd have the required patience by now. I'm taking a little break right now to tend to some other responsibilities and hopefully go at it with renewed enthusiasm in a couple weeks.

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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    As any project, boat or otherwise nears the end, there is an inverse ratio of size of jobs to do to number of jobs to do. You are now in the lotsa little jobs phase, which means part of you thinks you are almost done. ( At least, that's how it works for me). Fight that demon. Know and accept that there is still plenty to do.

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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    get up ...stand up
    stand up to yer wife

    this is why we say the hull is only a third of building a boat,
    do not let the "thousand little things" get to you....embrace them
    if you wanna finish quicker, stash the hand planes, the DA's,the routers, the japanese pullsaws,the sika goo,the lazer levels,hand chisels, and bust a move with the GD DISC SANDER !
    Last edited by wizbang 13; 09-19-2022 at 09:30 AM.

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    I didn’t notice that part about OP at least partly blaming his wife for his declining work. I really need to start reading these threads.
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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    Whenever I feel rushed or pressured, and continue working at it...
    something bad is bound to happen...
    Take a break from it and do something else for a while...
    Once you get back to working on the boat things go more smoothly then.

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    Patience? Late stages of a build?

    Not sure where this fits in, but I finished planking my boat in the first 9 months from getting the plans. Six years later, it hit the water. And now that I get to do stuff like this with it:

    1.91.jpg

    I couldn't care less how long it took. You'll get there.

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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    Sometimes a reasonable target event will help work out a plan - I sometimes target a boating event or festival and say to myself ' well I need to have her ready by then'.
    I also make lengthy lists of the jobs that need to be done and mark the items off with dramatic swipes of a biro - of course the list grows but so does the list of completed tasks. I find this helps.

    Good Luck & remember there is noting like boating in the boat you built.

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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    Quote Originally Posted by Murky Deep View Post
    I am starting to run low on patience and have screwed up a few things as a result a few screws were not centered and came through the chine log. A big glop of sikaflex stuck to the side. My general quality of work is declining. I’m questioning if I should have built something else or a wooden boat at all. The boat had to leave the basement per order of the Mrs.

    Is this normal? Or am I too tense?
    The mistake that cant be fixed with epoxy filler and a bit more plywood has yet to be made. Well, not quite but you get the picture.
    Another point, you cant see whats under a couple of coats of paint.

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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI-Tom View Post
    Patience? Late stages of a build?

    Not sure where this fits in, but I finished planking my boat in the first 9 months from getting the plans. Six years later, it hit the water. And now that I get to do stuff like this with it:

    1.91.jpg

    I couldn't care less how long it took. You'll get there.

    Tom
    that's nice....real nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernadette View Post
    that's nice....real nice.
    Thanks--one of my favorite spots, West Fox Island on Georgian Bay, about 8 miles east of Killarney.

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    Default Re: Patience during the late stages of a build?

    Quote Originally Posted by Murky Deep View Post

    Is this normal? Or am I too tense?
    It is now late September, realistically what are the chances you can get the boat finished before the cold Atlantic winds start blowing over Cape Cod? Time to re-calibrate your schedule?

    For future reference:

    On the last few boats I've built "small" stuff like the spars and sails got built first so I didn't have that rushed feeling of having a hull waiting for me to finish up.

    Keeping a whiteboard in the shop with tasks listed does help with a sense of accomplishment. Break the project into reasonably small bites, the act of striking another thing off the list can help keep your head straight. "Plank the hull" is too big but "garboards" then "broads" followed by planks 1,2,3...on to sheer plank (or whiskey plank depending) breaks it down into small but measurable landmarks.

    One of the many things I learned without realizing it while going to theater school in Boston was project management, still applying those lessons today.
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