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    Way back in the dim and distant past we, here in the UK, had a product called "Nitromors" which would strip pretty much any paint off any substrate - although it sometimes did bad things to the substrate.

    I have a painted thing - made of wood - from which I wish to remove the paint - so I bought a 2.5 litre tin of "Nitromors" and set to work.

    This is not the "Nitromors" of my youth - it's crap.

    Is there a Brit on this site who knows of an available stripper which actually works?
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    https://probuildermag.co.uk/slider/2182

    Nitromors was one of the most famous brands in the decorating industry. Then, due to EU legislation banning methylene chloride, it disappeared off the shelves.

    The challenge for Nitromors was to reformulate their magic liquid in a way that kept Brussels happy but also did the job for the painter and decorator. By all accounts it was not a straight line from A to B. They put forward a perfectly viable product but the feedback was that trade users wanted a bit more of a show.

    That is to say they wanted bubbles and blistering to indicate the point where the paint film parted company with the substrate. Even now we are not quite where we were before the ban, because it is a slower action, but it does the job. You need to stipple it on, leave it ten minutes and then stipple some more, and then let that act on the lower layers before removing it all with a scraper.
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    The new Nitromors products work but not as quickly or dramatically as the old formulations and, of course, a lot depends on the paint. If you have water based paints the old formulation wouldn’t touch it, but this new product will remove it – albeit without the bubbling and blistering. The younger generation of painters and decorators will, of course, know no difference, it will just be Nitromors to them.

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    Turns out you can buy Methylene chloride - just not as a paint stripper- I might feel the need for a running solvent....
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    Default Re: Nitromors alternative?

    Presumably the old trick with the sheet of cooking foil still works?
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    Another blame it on Brussels argument?
    For the record the EPA did exactly the same in the US in 2019.
    Methylene chloride is a rather toxic fluid which causes serious damage, or even death, when inhaled.
    Last edited by dutchpp; 09-18-2022 at 01:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    Presumably the old trick with the sheet of cooking foil still works?
    If you mean wrapping the item so as to keep the stripper in contact with the paint and reduce evaporation - then I've tried using polythene sheet - but that's no better.
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    If the paint is 2-part (Epoxy, 2-part Polyester or 2-part Polyurethan) many solvents / strippers can have difficulties. So - if paint stripper simply doesn't work, chances are that the paint is 2-part.

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    The paint softens considerably with acetone - not two-part.
    Last edited by P.I. Stazzer-Newt; 09-18-2022 at 09:41 AM.
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    Fire?

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    It would be nice if this device would be available for consumer use.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI8jyx3Feig

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    Default Re: Nitromors alternative?

    Can we bring back real creosote while we're at it please?

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    The Uffa Fox International 14 “Galatea” arrived with an immense thickness of old varnish dating back to 1946 on her. Sadly this had failed and had to be stripped. I decided against chemical strippers as I feared that some would get into the cloth between the skins. Hot air was useless as the stuff melted and balled up and clogged the scraper. In the end cold weather was our friend - it went brittle and flew off in shards.

    Now, has anyone got a recipe that gets chlorinated rubber deck paint off GRP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    Can we bring back real creosote while we're at it please?
    That really is toxic...carcinogenic too.
    I did read somewhere that people like farmers are still allowed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew2 View Post
    That really is toxic...carcinogenic too.
    I did read somewhere that people like farmers are still allowed it.
    Also the best wood preservative ever. Oxygen is carcinogenic.

    I lived in a shed for many summers that was treated religiously every year with it. Love that smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    .....

    Now, has anyone got a recipe that gets chlorinated rubber deck paint off GRP?
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...24013601005751
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    Creosote consists of approximately 300 different substances, mostly polycyclic hydrocarbons, including a well known carcinogenic Benzo(a)pyrene (BaP)
    During carcinogenic skin testing on mice the basic BaP caused tumors ( approx. 6 tumors per microgram dose of BaP), but the different creosote mixtures that we used for treating our wood caused up to 5 times as much tumors. It certainly was a scary substance.

    I liked the smell as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    … er… thanks, Triturus!
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    Default Re: Nitromors alternative?

    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    Can we bring back real creosote while we're at it please?
    It can still be had,but isn't available for retail sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dutchpp View Post
    Creosote consists of approximately 300 different substances, mostly polycyclic hydrocarbons, including a well known carcinogenic Benzo(a)pyrene (BaP)
    During carcinogenic skin testing on mice the basic BaP caused tumors ( approx. 6 tumors per microgram dose of BaP), but the different creosote mixtures that we used for treating our wood caused up to 5 times as much tumors. It certainly was a scary substance.

    I liked the smell as well
    Is there an elevated incidence of cancers in utility pole workers?

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