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    from preliminary reports i'd say averting a strike by railworkers united is a significant political win for the white house today
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    from preliminary reports i'd say averting a strike by railworkers united is a significant political win for the white house today
    A good thing on many levels

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    Definitely good news, but I doubt it will have all that much effect politically, except, of course, that a strike certainly wouldn't have been good. Bad stuff avoided often doesn't make much impression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Definitely good news, but I doubt it will have all that much effect politically, except, of course, that a strike certainly wouldn't have been good. Bad stuff avoided often doesn't make much impression.
    It definitely puts Joe out there as the leader of the country which is never a bad thing. But I guess if you feel food is too expensive and you can't afford to buy a home you may not care a whole heck of a lot if the leader of the free world was able to avert a strike.....Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

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    Way too rational. Let's say, rather, if you think that Biden is a socialist who's going to open the borders and confiscate your guns, the puppet of the same globalist conspiracy that stole the election from Trump, you're unlikely to be impressed by averting a strike.

    But mainly, most folks simply won't notice something that didn't happen..
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    Last night I had a pro-Trump, pro-DeSantis, pro-Graham relative down in South Carolina expressing her grave concerns about the suffering the rail strike would cause.

    Do you think she will thank Biden for stopping it?
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    I’m not gifting any kudos to Jo until I see what the workers got out of it. He was in between a very big rock, and a very hard place here. He’s gotta be sympathetic to labor and at the same time a strike would undoubtedly not help with inflation.
    Being a card carrying union member my loyalties lie with the workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Being a card carrying union member my loyalties lie with the workers.
    how does that work? republican union member???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Yes, it’s a dilemma most pilots find themselves in. Most of us are union members, but we also make a high enough wage that our economic realities tend to move us into the GOP camp. Also with a high % being former military officers most are also social as well as economic conservatives.
    I would say that for every two dozen of so conservative/republican pilots I meet I encounter 1 liberal/democrat.
    I’d imagine it’s the same for the railway engineers, firemen and police unions.
    do you stand with and support the flight attendants unions and baggage handlers unions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    I’d imagine it’s the same for the railway engineers, firemen and police unions.
    I was union designated counsel for a couple of railroad unions. Railroaders are not Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    . Also with a high % being former military officers most are also social as well as economic conservatives.
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    I get a kick out of conservatism that thrives on gov’t income. It makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    I was union designated counsel for a couple of railroad unions. Railroaders are not Republicans.
    That is a surprise. I’ve met a couple, and had a copilot that was a conductor before he moved to flying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    I get a kick out of conservatism that thrives on gov’t income. It makes sense.
    Not really a contradiction. National defense is one of the primary functions of federal government.
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    It's good a strike has been averted.

    I expect it may not swing many voters to dems, but I'll take what few it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Not really a contradiction. National defense is one of the primary functions of federal government.
    Oh no not a contradiction at all. The military is by nature conservative but it’s the subset of Republican anti-gov’t conservatism that gets me. Wrt National defense the military can be used for that or any other goal the gov’t decides, even undermining national security. Speaking of which check out this letter written by former SecDefs.

    https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...mpism-n1298686

    Eight former secretaries of defense and five former chairs of the Joint Chiefs of Staff published an open letter Tuesday intended to “review” the best practices for maintaining “healthy” American civil-military relations. The letter listed what experts considered to be a basic and outwardly uncontroversial set of principles to ensure civilian control and the rule of law in the American political system. But what stood out about the missive was that the officials felt compelled to write it.

    The real inspiration for the letter, which was signed by former officials from both Republican and Democratic administrations, can be found in a line in the introduction. The signers express concern about “polarization that culminated in the first election in over a century when the peaceful transfer of political power was disrupted and in doubt.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    That is a surprise. I’ve met a couple, and had a copilot that was a conductor before he moved to flying.
    Remember I dealt with officials in the unions and the rank and file that were active in the union. They were not republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    from preliminary reports i'd say averting a strike by railworkers united is a significant political win for the white house today
    As a side effect, it might be good for the American people too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    It's good a strike has been averted.

    I expect it may not swing many voters to dems, but I'll take what few it does.
    It’s more about stopping the MAGAidiots plastering freight trains with stickers of Biden pointing a finger and saying “I Did This” and owning the libs.
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    Chait wrote on Twitter that it turns out Biden is the ideal guy to address "old timey" challenges like potential crippling railway strikes, and columns of Russian tanks rolling into Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe (SoCal) View Post
    It’s more about stopping the MAGAidiots plastering freight trains with stickers of Biden pointing a finger and saying “I Did This” and owning the libs.
    And yet, the Democrats seem unable to convert a good outcome into good press while the Republicans can convert nothing into bad press.
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