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    Unbelievable; trump apparently planned on 'refusing to leave' after losing the election. Seems a reporter knew of this, but sat on it - in order to sell her book. Bastids, the lot of 'em.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2022/09...ite-house.html
    Former President Donald Trump repeatedly told aides in the days following his 2020 election loss that he would remain in the White House rather than let incoming President Joe Biden take over, according to reporting provided to CNN from a forthcoming book by New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman.






    “I’m just not going to leave,” Trump told one aide, according to Haberman.

    “We’re never leaving,” Trump told another. “How can you leave when you won an election?”
    It would have been important to have these details when the numerous investigations were just getting started, but Maggie Haberman is yet another DC journalist who hid them from the public for years to sell books. Consumers need to stop rewarding this behavior at some point because it is helping to put democracy and the nation in peril.






    Haberman’s timeline of something shifting after Trump lost doesn’t make sense because there were reports for months before the 2020 election that Trump considered not leaving office if he lost. The reports were so numerous that Biden had to respond to them by assuring the nation that if Trump lost, he would have the military escort the former president out of the White House after he was sworn into office.

    Donald Trump intended to stay even after he lost. The 1/6 attack was part of Trump’s plan to overturn a legitimate election and maintain power. Trump was going to be a squatter in the White House.

    Biden and the Constitution would never allow that, but the story illustrates Trump’s desperation to maintain power and the lengths he is willing to go to destroy democracy.
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    And it appears trump *may have* moved lots of records to Bedminister, NJ, ahead of the Mara Lago search. Makes you wonder why the US Govt moves with feet of clay.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2022/09...isturbing.html
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    As if his attempting to stay in the White House as a vagrant makes any sense at all. As if anyone who needs to interact with the president for any of a thousand reasons would bother with him just because he barricaded himself in the Oval Office. I wish he had tried to stay, because having him dragged out by armed men and dumped at the curb would have been fun to watch.

    Why does the govt move with feet of clay? Because less than half the general population can name the three branches of government. Maybe if we worked the workings of government into a TV series with lots of shooting, we could change that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mahan View Post

    Maybe if we worked the workings of government into a TV series with lots of shooting, we could change that.
    Well. We're halfway there.
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    DoJ is probably digging hard to find some minion to squeeze to find out just what is in the banker boxes moved to the Bedminster National Cemetary.

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    September 13, 2022 (Tuesday)

    In an event at the White House today, President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and the First Lady and Second Gentleman, along with lawmakers and those who worked for the causes the law embraces, celebrated the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act, the new law that lowers prescription drug costs, invests in new technologies to combat climate change, and raises taxes on billion-dollar corporations both to fund the new investments and to reduce the federal deficit.

    In contrast, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) today announced he will introduce a national abortion ban. This is a pretty transparent attempt by the Republicans to deal with the political toxicity of the Republican-dominated Supreme Court’s overturning Roe v. Wade, a toxicity unlikely to go away while news breaks, as it did today, that the state of Texas will not publish data on maternal death until after the midterm elections, suggesting the data will be bad indeed.

    When the court ended the recognition of the constitutional right to reproductive rights in June, Republicans tried to manage the backlash by saying that the decision would simply return to the states the right to decide the status of abortion within their boundaries. The idea was actually that of enslavers in the 1830s: that true democracy operated at the state level because lawmakers there were closer to their constituents and would represent them better than those at the national level, thus enabling them to dismiss national pressure against enslavement as interference in state rights.

    Graham himself echoed this line. As recently as August 7, 2022, according to White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, he said, “I've been consistent. I think states should decide the issue of marriage and states should decide the issue of abortion.”

    Now, as those opposing the end of the national protection of abortion rights warned, Graham is calling for a national abortion ban. He tried to explain away the change by saying that after the Democrats had announced what they stood for—presumably, President Joe Biden’s recent warning that Trump and the MAGA Republicans endanger our rights and our democracy, while the Democrats have rebuilt the economy for everyone—he wanted to make sure the Republicans did, too.

    But the Republicans can read the polls as well as anyone and are facing the reality that their base might well not turn out without Trump on the ballot, while opponents of the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health decision overturning Roe v. Wade are showing up in big numbers to vote against Republicans. Graham’s offer to impose a national ban on abortion seeks to bring the Republican base to the polls. “If we take back the House and the Senate, I can assure you we’ll have a vote on our bill,” he said today. “If the Democrats are in charge, I don’t know if we’ll ever have a vote on our bill.”

    But while Graham courted the Republicans’ extremist base, he also tried to make his proposal palatable for those who support reproductive rights by framing it as a moderate one that would simply bring the U.S. in line with European countries by banning abortion after 15 weeks, ignoring that European countries have much better access to contraception, early abortion, exceptions to the laws, and maternity care.

    The proposal is neither moderate nor in line with European countries. But it is also a giant red flag for our democracy, showing that the argument that the federal government should turn issues back to the states was the lie opponents said it was. Graham is calling for the federal government to impose a law backed only by an extremist minority on the entire country. It is the same principle that so-called “originalists” pretended to reject in the Dobbs decision, now reimposed to reflect not the will of the majority, but the tyranny of the minority.

    Some Republican Senators are distancing themselves from Graham’s proposal, but that distancing reflects the attempt to muddy the waters so voters can believe what they want. The proposal reflects both concern on the part of Republican leaders going into the midterms, and a determination to hide what they are really calling for. CNN Capitol Hill reporter Melanie Zanona reported this afternoon that at least 80 House Republicans are introducing their own bill, similar to Graham’s.

    Over on his Truth Social network, where he has been amplifying extremist QAnon accounts, Trump has been making it harder to deny the party’s growing radicalism. Today, he “retruthed” an image of himself wearing a QAnon pin with Q slogans, apparently going all-in on the conspiracy theory base. Ben Collins of NBC News noted the importance of the words on the image—“The Storm is Coming”—which refer to the “big end date for QAnon, when Trump is supposed to round up all of his political enemies and hang them in public after a brief military tribunal.”

    Trump’s legal troubles continue to mount. The new subpoenas from the Department of Justice appear to be focusing on the money Trump’s Save America PAC raised for an “Official Election Defense Fund” that didn’t exist. The money went to Trump’s associates. This scam is not unlike the one for which Trump associate Stephen K. Bannon is now indicted: he and others allegedly raised at least $15 million to build a wall on the U.S. southern border, only to pocket the money.

    Trump pardoned him from federal charges, but Bannon is now facing state charges in New York. “The simple truth is that it is a crime to profit off the backs of donors by making false pretenses,” Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg told reporters.

    Today the affidavit for the search warrant that FBI agents fulfilled at Mar-a-Lago on August 8 was released with fewer redactions. The new material reveals that after handing over documents produced for a subpoena, Trump’s lawyer told the Department of Justice that “he was advised” that all White House records were in the storage room at Mar-a-Lago and that “he was not advised” there were records anywhere else. Ryan Goodman of Just Security notes that this likely points to Trump as the person lying to him. The subpoena for security videos from the vicinity of the storage room at Mar-a-Lago reached back to January 10, 2022.

    This afternoon, Missy Ryan of the Washington Post reported that a senior U.S. official has revealed that since 2014, Russia has spent at least $300 million in more than 24 countries to weaken democracies and strengthen global forces friendly to Putin’s interests. That would likely include funds spent attacking U.S. elections, most notably that of 2016, as detailed in the five-volume report of the Republican-dominated Senate Intelligence Committee on Russian Active Measures, Campaigns, and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election. The administration commissioned a review of Russian efforts this summer and discovered that Russia intended to continue pouring money into destabilizing other countries.

    The administration will declassify some of the report to show the techniques Russia has been using. “By shining this light on Russian covert political financing and Russian attempts to undermine democratic processes, we’re putting these foreign parties and candidates on notice that if they accept Russian money secretly we can and we will expose it,” the official told reporters.

    Meanwhile, Russian president Putin’s power at home is wobbling. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz tweeted today that he had a 90-minute phone call with Putin in which he demanded that Russia withdraw its troops from Ukraine and recognize Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. Fifty Russian municipal deputies have publicly called for Putin to resign.
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    a grotesquerie he is

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    This year's midterms are getting increasingly interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mahan View Post
    I wish he had tried to stay, because having him dragged out by armed men and dumped at the curb would have been fun to watch.
    Would have been better if they'd just chased him into an out of the way storage room in the Whitehouse somewhere and bricked it up. trump who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    And it appears trump *may have* moved lots of records to Bedminister, NJ, ahead of the Mara Lago search. Makes you wonder why the US Govt moves with feet of clay.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2022/09...isturbing.html
    Cohen has already said he thinks there are classified documents at Bedminster.

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    It would seem prudent to move with some haste in establishing just what; how long does it take TFG to flush all those records?
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