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    Default Biden's speech in Philadelphia

    Appears he's trying to give the non MAGA republicans a place to go.
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    he should hire obama or bill to speak for him
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    least motivational dem president speaker ever
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    at least they're keeping the vice pres hidden of late

    smart that
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    But ... he said the right things, he chose the rightvline, and followed it through.

    No, the MAGA crowd won't be moved by this, but they'll some of them be moved by losing ground in November. And at this rate I'm finally feeling like they will lose ground in November.

    This was a speech to the independents, and the former Republicans who are queasy. There are enough of them to win some races that are embarrassingly close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    But ... he said the right things, he chose the rightvline, and followed it through.

    No, the MAGA crowd won't be moved by this, but they'll some of them be moved by losing ground in November. And at this rate I'm finally feeling like they will lose ground in November.

    This was a speech to the independents, and the former Republicans who are queasy. There are enough of them to win some races that are embarrassingly close.

    okay, lets ask reynard what he thought of it
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    I like what Biden is up to. Get out there and stir your own pot, versus having your pot stirred for you by idiots.
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    Yeadon is right, of course.

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    america will be lucky to survive the back to back administrations of trump and biden

    one gave everything (that wasnt) in the larder away to the rich and fostered a contempt for open and honest disciurse between americans that i had once never imagined possible

    the other is spending more money than god increasing the debt exponentially through other means (while not addressing in any meaningful way climate change or health care) while allowing the reds to define him and his party- effing ridiculous
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    yes ive been drinking tequila tonight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    yes ive been drinking tequila tonight
    Pfft I just woke from a 3 bottle wine induced covid quarenteen coma in Florence italy -ammature
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    america will be lucky to survive the back to back administrations of trump and biden

    one gave everything (that wasnt) in the larder away to the rich and fostered a contempt for open and honest disciurse between americans that i had once never imagined possible

    the other is spending more money than god increasing the debt exponentially through other means (while not addressing in any meaningful way climate change or health care) while allowing the reds to define him and his party- effing ridiculous
    you might want to read something like this before opening your mouth. https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-b...s-hide-3306151

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    i wonder how many times i have posted those charts
    and the corresponding ones about financial market performance
    and the charts about how many times the incoming dem has had to deal with the economic wreckage of his red predecessor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    i wonder how many times i have posted those charts
    and the corresponding ones about financial market performance
    and the charts about how many times the incoming dem has had to deal with the economic wreckage of his red predecessor
    Good thing you studied economics and not racecar or racecar driving
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    .......and #PedoHitler is trending on Twitter as a response to Biden's speech in posts like this:




    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

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    Is the USA on a collision course or what??......... with both sides convinced the other is from facist hell. Ok The trump side seems from most reasonable observation to be projecting.........

    The confirmation bias is off the charts and for many who have lost any resemblance of independant terms of reference their vortex is spinning in increasingly tighter circles as Trump keeps stoking the rage and influencers like Ben Shapiro re enforcing the narrative. Sadly it seems there are a sizeable number who will turn to violence when the pressure cooker valve opens!
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallam View Post
    .......and #PedoHitler is trending on Twitter
    He waved his fists - of course..... it was there all along, we just needed someone to point at it!
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallam View Post
    Is the USA on a collision course or what??......... with both sides convinced the other is from facist hell. !
    Both sidesism alert - fascism is not the same as calling attention to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    okay, lets ask reynard what he thought of it
    Not planning on voting for him, so I didn’t watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandtown View Post
    Both sidesism alert - fascism is not the same as calling attention to it.


    Yes, I alluded to that with my comment re the trump side seems from most reasonable observation to be projecting.........

    Trump has consistently shouted accusations via twitter in the past and now via letters to the DOJ etc etc that label accusation on the other party that match the very things he is guilty of doing. Those who identify with the conservative right Trump mindset have no outside term of reference because that reference has been outed as the enemy and the direction they are perusing seems reasonable to them and their anger has been manufactured by the emotive style of the media and internet commentators that have proliferated in recent times, all reinforcing the information silo mindset .They deliberately foster an angry response that is to them justified because the constant narrative is that a great injustice is being perpetuated against Trump and by implication his supporters. I have said in the past early on that the whole movement has the functioning dynamic of a cult. WHAT IS VERY INTERESTING is that mindset has even got otherwise reasonable people here in Australia swept up in the Trump world view. Also the libertarian fringe in Australia has fostered great animosity towards the progressive state Govt of Victoria with many very angry at Dictator Dan for his very successful covid mitigation strategy. Yes he may have overdone it a bit but caution over careless vandalism in the name of economic freedom is a preferred option of those who see a more wholistic picture.

    So both sides accuse the other of leading the nation to become a facist state. The answer to a simple question is the give away......of the two sides which side is upholding the rule of law and due process?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    But ... he said the right things, he chose the rightvline, and followed it through.

    No, the MAGA crowd won't be moved by this, but they'll some of them be moved by losing ground in November. And at this rate I'm finally feeling like they will lose ground in November.

    This was a speech to the independents, and the former Republicans who are queasy. There are enough of them to win some races that are embarrassingly close.
    I'd like to remind the MAGA crowd that Trump had 14 days (he was still president until Jan. 20) in which he could have pardoned those who attacked the Capital on his behalf. He chose not to. Now he dangles such pardons in hopes of getting support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    america will be lucky to survive the back to back administrations of trump and biden

    one gave everything (that wasnt) in the larder away to the rich and fostered a contempt for open and honest disciurse between americans that i had once never imagined possible

    the other is spending more money than god increasing the debt exponentially through other means (while not addressing in any meaningful way climate change or health care) while allowing the reds to define him and his party- effing ridiculous
    The history of our debt, as I recall it, was it became a problem under Reagan. He cut spending 10% and cut revenue 30% and the debt's been a 'thing' since. Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy, turned the deficit into a surplus, and actually paid down a small bit of our debt.

    Trickle down was a farce.
    "Banning books and not guns seems backwards. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    But ... he said the right things, he chose the rightvline, and followed it through.

    No, the MAGA crowd won't be moved by this, but they'll some of them be moved by losing ground in November. And at this rate I'm finally feeling like they will lose ground in November.

    This was a speech to the independents, and the former Republicans who are queasy. There are enough of them to win some races that are embarrassingly close.
    Moved to what? Violence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    america will be lucky to survive the back to back administrations of trump and biden

    one gave everything (that wasnt) in the larder away to the rich and fostered a contempt for open and honest disciurse between americans that i had once never imagined possible

    the other is spending more money than god increasing the debt exponentially through other means (while not addressing in any meaningful way climate change or health care) while allowing the reds to define him and his party- effing ridiculous
    While the other is "spending more money than G-d", you'll note that the debt has been decreasing under the "other". You'll also note that it is Congress that has the power of the purse, not the President - any limitations on what has happened with regard to climate or health care seems to be down to two Democratic Senators and ALL of the Republicans.

    How many Republican Senators and Representatives have been sitting in Congress have never authored or co-sponsored a bill in the time they've been in office?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoez View Post
    Congress that has the power of the purse, not the President
    not anymore.

    you are thinking of the old republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    not anymore.

    you are thinking of the old republic.
    Like declaring war

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Like declaring war
    you are not wrong.

    so, october 16, 2002?

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    "Be curious, not judgmental." - (Misattributed to Walt Whitman as recalled by) Ted Lasso

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    i how many times the incoming dem has had to deal with the economic wreckage of his red predecessor
    I am no fan of the Dems in many respects, but it is an empirical fact that the US government performs much better when they are in charge.

    And as you say, they are much better stewards of the public purse.

    Corporate media never report that.

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    for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    not anymore.

    you are thinking of the old republic.
    In this as in so much besides. Well put.

    I mean, look, we took out a cornerstone, and it hasn't fallen in yet. That means it wasn't necessary in the first place. That cornerstone could house three or four homeless. Very unsocialism. Get a crane to drop it on someone's lawn and call it a granny flat.
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    I watched You tube clips of misc topics, no speeches.

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    A long time back I posted the opinion that the dems need to peel off only SOME of the GOP voters. If they can get 10-15% of those who voted for Trump to not vote at all or vote for the dem, it would likely swing many '22 races.
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    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    A long time back I posted the opinion that the dems need to peel off only SOME of the GOP voters. If they can get 10-15% of those who voted for Trump to not vote at all or vote for the dem, it would likely swing many '22 races.
    You identify where that slice is to come from. Where's the appeal to that slice to come from? Those who finally tire of wokeness and socialism. What's the point? Common cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    You identify where that slice is to come from. Where's the appeal to that slice to come from? Those who finally tire of wokeness and socialism. What's the point? Common cause.
    i think dims should slice it off one red state at time, via executive order bribery

    start with pennsylvania and work our way generally south and west
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