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    do you do it?

    my mother-in-law would can apricots and tomatoes in nescafe jars. no money for canning jars and lids. i had some the first winter i visited norma's ancestral home, and i didn't die.

    i just inspected and washed a couple dozen used lids. if you open your jars carefully damage to the rim is negligible.

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    yall drink nescafe?
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    I assume you MIL was canning using the water bath method. It's not really a good idea. The lids have a seal on them that requires heat to set properly. The seal is not meant for multiple use.
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    i use actual canning lids and rings. the rubber seal on the lids works multiple times. i use them twice unless visibly damaged, then discard.

    the story was about my m.i.l. making do with used nescafe jars, not me. family home with a dirt floor, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    the story was about my m.i.l. making do with used nescafe jars, not me. family home with a dirt floor, etc.
    and you didn't die!


    my mom always reused the mason jar lids with the red rubber seal
    she also used paraffin, no longer recommended
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    The lids can be reused for storage, but not for canning. They're designed to make a one-time seal.

    The rings/bands can be reused many times.

    Once the seal has been made and the jars cooled, the rings can (and should) be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    and you didn't die!


    my mom always reused the mason jar lids with the red rubber seal
    she also used paraffin, no longer recommended
    The old style seals were reusable. The lids they make today are not meant for multiple canning cycles.
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    The definitive source for good info on the topic. They don’t squarely address reusing. Or they do, and it’s acceptable given that it is not prohibited. I only spent a few minutes and may be wrong.

    https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/p...html#gsc.tab=0

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    Forty cents a pop. Why risk a ruined jar of pickles for forty cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    yall drink nescafe?
    Only when I run out of Folgers Coffee Crystals.

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    My grandad has a cancer thing removed from his nose when he was about 85. He motioned me over like he was going to tell me a secret. They used to drive out into the cotton fields to meet the moonshiners. Said that the spot they removed was where the mason jars would cut their noses as they drove back over the fields drinking.

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    at the end of the day, a vacuum seal is a vacuum seal.

    one must be careful and observant when canning and consuming. new lids can fail, too, eh?

    my failure rate with re-used lids is indistinguishable from my failure rate with new lids. very low.

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    as for manufacturers claiming that canning lids are single use only, well, they would say that, wouldn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    The old style seals were reusable. The lids they make today are not meant for multiple canning cycles.
    did the seals really change? or did the lawyers insist.

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    Separate from the lid issue, the emphasis they put on botulism is concerning.

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    botulism is a bad way to go
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    Hoping not to live long enough to see airborne botulism, tetanus, or rabies. Though I suspect they are in a lab somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryLL View Post
    Forty cents a pop. Why risk a ruined jar of pickles for forty cents.
    i haven't canned tuna in a couple years, but when i did i always used new. high value product, why not be a little superstitious.

    but i am doing tomatoes today. i have tomatoes out the wazoo. and my cans will all seal fine.

    the only danger is eating something that has spoiled. if you are not careful and observant, i suppose that could happen... with old lids, or new.

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    Growing up, they reused them all the time. Just ate the ones that didn’t seal. Or redo them.

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    In the early days of the pandemic I bought a bunch of reusable canning lids and rubber seal rings. Turned out to be a good move as canning supplies became unobtainable later that year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    did the seals really change? or did the lawyers insist.
    Seals used to be separate from lids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    botulism is a bad way to go
    vs how much money you saved on canning lids?

    not a good economy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    Seals used to be separate from lids.
    The reusable lids that I have use separate seal rings.

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    [insert blowing seal meme here]

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    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    I kept the first few empty boxes of replacement lids to keep the used ones in for storage, not canning; e.g. sun dried tomatoes. Price tag still on: 58Ę
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    for going on 30 years, I've reused lids unless they have a break/spot in the ceramic inside coat. Acid (water bath)/pressure, matters not. It's all good. There's a 'nopolice canning' group on book o' faces.. one of the (few enough) good things there, people from around the world share - shaming, not allowed. Reuse is fine. Yeah, imagine a 'for profit' culture insisting everything be new..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durnik View Post
    for going on 30 years, I've reused lids unless they have a break/spot in the ceramic inside coat. Acid (water bath)/pressure, matters not. It's all good. There's a 'nopolice canning' group on book o' faces.. one of the (few enough) good things there, people from around the world share - shaming, not allowed. Reuse is fine. Yeah, imagine a 'for profit' culture insisting everything be new..
    yes.

    re-using may not make sense by some cost/benefit analysis, but very little i am doing these days pencils out anyway.

    i guess re-using lids is part of my aesthetic.

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    ^ I hear that. cost/benefit (to capitalism) has made this mess.. the 3R's started with Reduce & Reuse (I believe you also pointed that out recently?).. and reusing means also reducing/reusing the energy spent/pollution created mining/making/shipping/buying.

    the old lids are already here & tested, plus I'm french yankee by birth & southern scottish by acclimation.. cheep, cheep, Cheap! (-:

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    The definitive source for good info on the topic. They donít squarely address reusing. Or they do, and itís acceptable given that it is not prohibited. I only spent a few minutes and may be wrong.

    https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/p...html#gsc.tab=0

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    from the pic - "buy only the quantity of lids you will use in a year"..

    they are _not_ the definitive source. In fact, it can be easily seen they are clueless. Do people really imagine we know in advance how much canning we will do this year? Riight.. Great year.. or so/so year.. who knows, and supplies are bought before the fact. They're not canners, I see - nor, for that matter, preppers. Good capitalists tho! Bah! We stock up on lids when they are available and the price is right.. and use as needed.

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    Either they seal, or they don't. New, or used. Right?

    I don't see the problem.
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    Geocel 2320. Seals every time.

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    Surh. Buth stickth my tongue toh theh roof of my mouf!
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