Alex Jones' bad day

[TomF]

He's in court this week, already convicted of lying and causing harm to the parents of the kids slaughtered at Sandy Hook, by maintaining for years that the shooting was "a hoax." This week's proceedings are for a jury to determine appropriate damages.

Jones has argued this week that his business is not exorbitantly profitable, and Infowars' parent company even coincidentally declared bankruptcy this week. Huh

Today in court, the plaintiffs' attorney produced texts, though, which suggested otherwise. When asked where they came from - as Jones had claimed that no texts or emails etc existed, the lawyer mentioned that 12 days ago, Jones' lawyers accidentally sent the entire contents of Jones' phone to them. Including voluminous texts about these and other issues, accounting documents about his business, etc.

Oops.

All this should have been provided during discovery, yet somehow were omitted.

It will be fascinating, I should think, when subpoenas arrive for this phone from the DoJ, and the J6 committee.

In the meantime, the phone's contents will have a rather unsettling impact on the jury's opinion of Jones' truthfulness and credibility. Will be interesting to see if perjury charges also follow.

Tweet links to one of several threads on this.
https://twitter.com/5DollarFeminist/...lC7F3mLYzkgbhg

[rbgarr]

That guy is pure evil.

[bluedog225]

Bad day indeed.

I don’t understand people’s willingness to write **** down. Wtf?

I’m pretty careful what I say. Only text dumb/funny stuff. And I’d die happy if I never received another email.

[TomF]

https://twitter.com/StuckInRedMO/sta...e_cUckq4ByH50w



Edited to add ... the NBC story is apparently from 2019, and the images were found on documents he had forwarded to lawyers then. Not today.

[TomF]

Apparently the plaintiffs' lawyer informed Jones' lawyers the same day the error occurred, and gave 10 days to indicate if anything should be considered privileged. No response.

So 2 days ago, the content was deemed acceptable for entry into evidence. Presumably the same waiver will apply no matter who now subpoenas the content. Jones' ex wife has already said that she'll do so today, presumably pursuant to her divorce and child support rights - she's never seen Financials for Infowars either.

This phone also holds 2 years worth of Jones' texts. I suspect J6 and DoJ will wish to review these not-privileged documents too.

[CWSmith]

Leave him destitute and sleeping in his car. That's what the creature deserves. Let him depend on the kindness of the kind of people he has slandered through the years.

[John Smith]

Leave him destitute and sleeping in his car. That's what the creature deserves. Let him depend on the kindness of the kind of people he has slandered through the years.

Worst thing you can do to a rich man is make him a poor man.

[hawkeye54]

^ I hear cardboard refrigerator boxes can be a comfortable nighttime accommodation . .

[sonofswen]

"Leave him destitute and sleeping in his car. That's what the creature deserves. Let him depend on the kindness of the kind of people he has slandered through the years."
^is actually too kind.

[The Ranger]

A bad day for Jones is a good day for the rest of us.

[Wine47]

A bad day for Jones is a good day for the rest of us.

I have been watching it - what a Train Wreck he is - eye rolls - blinking - definitely a deer in the headlights look - could not happen to a better POS. He said today that any settelment over 2 million would end his company. The prosecution attorney produced internal company emails that showed he earned $800,000/day during a CPAC convention. He markets survival food and supplements. Put him in the Hurt Locker!

[Keith Wilson]

May he have many more worse ones.

Or, perhaps (if I'm being very kind), may he come to really understand how badly he f*cked up, and spend the rest of his life trying to make amends. (It could happen. Don't bet on it.)

[TomF]

J6 committee confirms that it will subpoena Jones' texts and emails.

Bear in mind, he apparently testified to them several months ago. Depending on what he said then, what documents he may have then given them, he maybe set himself up to be charged for lying to Congress too.

[Dave Lesser]

Boom!

This is not your show.

[Gerarddm]

#LockHimUp!

[LeeG]

Definitely time for consequences. He’s one expression of the “sticking it to..” ideology

[Flying Orca]

One takes a certain pleasure in seeing ratfsckers get schooled.

[David G]

Definitely time for consequences. He’s one expression of the “sticking it to..” ideology

One takes a certain pleasure in seeing ratfsckers get schooled.

Yes! And Lee is correct, and that truth is critical. Those instructions should have included a reminder of the consequences the judge is empowered to impose, and the warning that she's done talking... next step is (whatever she decides... but actual consequences). He's a very slow learner who's lived in his own delusional bubble for a long time. It WILL take more than words to pop that bubble now.

[LeeG]

Alex Jones, the kind of guy Trumpism needed.

[Lew Barrett]

A giant white head pimple begging to be popped.

[LeeG]

A giant white head pimple begging to be popped.

ewwwwww

[LeeG]

I wonder how Faux News covered this.

[John Smith]

I wonder how Faux News covered this.

Interesting question.

[C. Ross]

#15!!!

Im a turn the other cheek forgiveness kind of dude. Pretty zen.

But that video is something even I have wanted to see for a long time. A dittohead, InfoWars, MAGA kind of guy finally pinned down and held to account. It’s remarkably satisfying to watch.

[John Smith]

What's the max the jury can award? Is there a max?

This is a civil suit for money. At some point his speech was outside what is covered by the first amendment, and ought to be criminal. Perjury may land him in jail.

[TomF]

The plaintiffs' lawyers suggest that Jones be fined $1 for every American whose opinion about Sandy Hook may have been influenced by exposure to Jones' repeated claims that the killings never occurred, and that the parents are all " crisis actors."

They've found a 3rd party survey which suggests 150M Americans were exposed to that garbage.

That's just compensation for pain and suffering. The dollar figure is before any punitive damages folks may pursue.

Bear in mind that according to the figures on Jones' phone, during CPAC, Jones' business selling Infowars branded supplements and snake oil grossed about $800k/day.

The wages of sin may be death, ultimately, but they're pretty steep in the interim too I suspect.

[skuthorp]

This is NOT your show! I like her, just what you need on the SC………………………...

[Canoeyawl]

I was just driving and listening to NPR, and they mentioned that Alex's lawyer in responding to the subpoena, sent the entire contents of his phone...
Oops - if this is true it could get interesting

[TomF]

Beau has an interesting video up. Observes that Jones is very, very connected to the upper tiers of Trumpworld. And that the privileges which all lapsed respecting whatever is on that phone will be of some .. interest .. to his pen pals about Jan6. Beau suggests that Jones' phone may become prominent in a couple of episodes of the 2nd season of the J6 show.

I think Jones is essentially a WWE wrestler who thinks he does commentary. And that he may be able to do a "heel turn" for the ages, if encouraged enough.

Still hope he's broken and penniless after this suit though.

[Canoeyawl]

Beau has an interesting video up. Observes that Jones is very, very connected to the upper tiers of Trumpworld. And that the privileges which all lapsed respecting whatever is on that phone will be of some .. interest .. to his pen pals about Jan6. Beau suggests that Jones' phone may become prominent in a couple of episodes of the 2nd season of the J6 show.

I think Jones is essentially a WWE wrestler who thinks he does commentary. And that he may be able to do a "heel turn" for the ages, if encouraged enough.

Still hope he's broken and penniless after this suit though.

Broken, penniless and ill, maybe lead poisoning

[Canoez]

Beau has an interesting video up. Observes that Jones is very, very connected to the upper tiers of Trumpworld. And that the privileges which all lapsed respecting whatever is on that phone will be of some .. interest .. to his pen pals about Jan6. Beau suggests that Jones' phone may become prominent in a couple of episodes of the 2nd season of the J6 show.

I think Jones is essentially a WWE wrestler who thinks he does commentary. And that he may be able to do a "heel turn" for the ages, if encouraged enough.

Still hope he's broken and penniless after this suit though.

Heather Cox Richardson’s post today indicates that the family’s attorney in the case running in Texas got two years of phone records and all of Jones’ texts. Jones’ attorney didn’t declare a privilege for that information. The content is apparently devastating to both Jones and those he was in contact with - for many subjects, including the period around January 6th.

[elf]

Beau has an interesting video up. Observes that Jones is very, very connected to the upper tiers of Trumpworld. And that the privileges which all lapsed respecting whatever is on that phone will be of some .. interest .. to his pen pals about Jan6. Beau suggests that Jones' phone may become prominent in a couple of episodes of the 2nd season of the J6 show.

I think Jones is essentially a WWE wrestler who thinks he does commentary. And that he may be able to do a "heel turn" for the ages, if encouraged enough.

Still hope he's broken and penniless after this suit though.

I'm not convinced these people know they're lying. There is something wrong in their brains such that they believe in the moment they say something that that something is true.

The committee has done a pretty good job of proving that Trump had all the information he needed to know that he was lying. Unfortunately, the committee has still not proven that Trump "knew" he was lying.

[Tom Wilkinson]

I'm not convinced these people know they're lying. There is something wrong in their brains such that they believe in the moment they say something that that something is true.

The committee has done a pretty good job of proving that Trump had all the information he needed to know that he was lying. Unfortunately, the committee has still not proven that Trump "knew" he was lying.

All Trump knows is lying. He does it as easily as breathing. And you can see in the outtakes from his Jan statement that he knows he is lying.

[CWSmith]

I'm not convinced these people know they're lying. There is something wrong in their brains such that they believe in the moment they say something that that something is true.

The committee has done a pretty good job of proving that Trump had all the information he needed to know that he was lying. Unfortunately, the committee has still not proven that Trump "knew" he was lying.

It is true that they don't know they are telling lies because they get their information from only one voice that is SHOUTED at them from multiple places. The lock-step march of the right does not provide room for thinking or debate. They use fear and blame from a chorus of voices all singing the same tune. We are talking about people who don't realize they aren't thinking about the problem. They have their talking points and they know the right responses, but they don't put things together.

They don't deliberately lie (or at least, not the rank & file while the leaders do). They just don't know any better and they don't want to know.

[Tom Wilkinson]

It is true that they don't know they are telling lies because they get their information from only one voice that is SHOUTED at them from multiple places. The lock-step march of the right does not provide room for thinking or debate. They use fear and blame from a chorus of voices all singing the same tune. We are talking about people who don't realize they aren't thinking about the problem. They have their talking points and they know the right responses, but they don't put things together.

They don't deliberately lie (or at least, not the rank & file while the leaders do). They just don't know any better and they don't want to know.

This guy knows damn well he is lying. He is one of the major sources of this cancer but his lies are very profitable. If he didn’t know he was lying they wouldn’t have stonewalled discovery forever.