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    V12. 350hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    Much favoured by the Princess Royal iirc.

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    Jensen Interceptor.





    6 litre American V8.

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    Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato


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    Ferrari GTC4 Lusso (and FF predecessor)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato

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    Ferrari GTC4 Lusso (and FF predecessor)

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    Hatch backs both. A shooting brake needs boot volume for luncheon hampers and guns.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    At first glance, I thought it read “50 plus in reverse.” I’m like “Damn, that’s gotta be exciting.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Hatch backs both. A shooting brake needs boot volume for luncheon hampers and guns.
    GTC4 Lusso boot.jpg

    If someone is spending $300K on a hatchback I reckon they can probably run to some bespoke picnic hampers and gun cases to fit in the back allowing them to move it closer to shooting brake territory. Admittedly they might perhaps struggle to cram a damp spaniel in there as well. On the upside though, it is 4WD which is useful if you end up drawing a duff peg and find yourself on the far side of a boggy field.

    OK, so if the Ferrari is a bit marginal, what about a Volvo?

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    P1800ES, room for hampers, guns damp dogs. The only reservation I have is that to me a shooting brake is perhaps supposed make you feel that you are driving something that's a bit special.

    Whilst a very pretty car, there are occasions where the front of the P1800 sort of reminds me of Sid the Sloth from Ice Age:

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    I hope we can agree that a two door car with space in the back is not the only thing that defines a shooting brake. To illustrate my point I submit exhibit 1 (those of delicate sensibilities may wish to shield their eyes):

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    My VW Sport Wagen might qualify as a shooting brake.

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    or a station wagon... which is pretty similar in original function I suppose, without the connotation.
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    They look like station wagons to me. I always liked station wagons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    or a station wagon... which is pretty similar in original function I suppose, without the connotation.
    Sort of. The clue is in the name. Station wagons were for collecting or taking visiting servants and their families' luggage from and to the rail station. In the UK it was the other way round, to and from the country estate.
    Shooting brake is a car body style which originated in the 1890s as a horse-drawn wagon used to transport shooting parties with their equipment and game.[3]
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Yeah - but if it's got a cannon on the hood,it really is a shooting brake.

    The 1800ES Volvo is a favorite of mine - but prices have gone nuts. Really clean one will go for over 40K US.
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    Pretty well every 3 or 5 door pictured are estates.

    So according to this, a shooting brake is just a tarted up estate?
    The Mercedes-Benz CLA Shooting Brake carves itself a whole new niche in the market, mixing added estate practicality with the panache of sensual styling. But is it a niche that needed filling? Its bigger brother, the C-Class T-Modell is quick to respond with a more rounded package which puts substance before style. So, which is the right recipe?


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    I recall a variant of the basic model shown above which made waves with my mech.eng. counterparts at university, the Jensen interceptor FF

    Similar in looks, it was the first passenger car to be fitted with permanent all-wheel drive designed by Ferguson Formula (FF). It preceeded the rest of the automotive pack by 5-to-13/14 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    The 1800ES Volvo is a favorite of mine - but prices have gone nuts. Really clean one will go for over 40K US.
    New in ‘62 they listed for ~ US $3,700. Guy I knew in HS a couple years later drove one ‘till it was swapped for a Shelby GT350. Inflation since then’s close to 900% putting that price tag not too far off a “clean one” today, the extra maybe worth the cost of storage for nigh on 60 years.

    Were I to have MY pick I’d jump into a Gen1 Countryman -

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    - and a ‘downsized’ spaniel to go along…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowolf View Post
    At first glance, I thought it read “50 plus in reverse.” I’m like “Damn, that’s gotta be exciting.”
    These then were built for your inner adrenaline junkie ....

    The DAF 33 Shooting Brake

    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    Feels like the venerable VW Golf/Rabbit/GTI has been under represented here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sp_clark View Post
    New in ‘62 they listed for ~ US $3,700. Guy I knew in HS a couple years later drove one ‘till it was swapped for a Shelby GT350. Inflation since then’s close to 900% putting that price tag not too far off a “clean one” today, the extra maybe worth the cost of storage for nigh on 60 years.

    Were I to have MY pick I’d jump into a Gen1 Countryman -

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    - and a ‘downsized’ spaniel to go along…
    NICE! An old friend of mine had one he used to "finish off" his race motors. He'd stuff in "last year's" race engine and use it on the street. I recall going skiing with him, passing the Porsches on the turns and finally sitting on the front fenders for the final traction to get the car into the parking lot at Timberline on Mt. Hood.

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    This might have been an improvement on the original.


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    Aston made a really ugly shooting brake out of the DB6.
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    They went on to do far worse....


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    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stromborg View Post


    Feels like the venerable VW Golf/Rabbit/GTI has been under represented here.
    As it should be.. it's not a Shooting brake, it's a hatchback

    Here is my Contribution, I actually owned one until the tinworm made love to it.

    Lancia BEta HPE. the HPE standing for "High Performance Estate", but as a two door, it qualifies as a Shooting Brake.

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    Shooting Brake needs wood on the outside, like the Mini.

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    The unforgettable Austin Allegro.

    To be fair, with it's counterbalanced tailgate, an interior designed for Springer Spaniels, no boot lip/ flat floor and hydrogas suspension, it would have made the gamekeepers car in it's day.





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    We just got one of these and I ADORE it!

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    "We just got one of these and I ADORE it!" o, give me a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofswen View Post
    "We just got one of these and I ADORE it!" o, give me a break.
    As long as it's a shooting brake!

    Funny enough, our 2015 Ford Explorer is classified as a station wagon too.
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    Always been a lot of sneering about the Allegro. But it actually did the job. My brother, not a car nut, had one and towed his Fireball about and was reliable, not to mention cheap to buy used...Didn't have the 'square' steering wheel tho.
    A well know aviator I knew bought the hatchback version. He needed to buy a new car for tax reasons. When I first saw it, he pointed out the upholstery colour..
    Called it 'Baby sh1t brown' it was..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    As long as it's a shooting brake!

    Funny enough, our 2015 Ford Explorer is classified as a station wagon too.
    so is my Landy. I guess the rare two door could be a shooting brake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    As long as it's a shooting brake!

    Funny enough, our 2015 Ford Explorer is classified as a station wagon too.
    So's our Rav4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Haberland View Post
    As it should be.. it's not a Shooting brake, it's a hatchback

    Here is my Contribution, I actually owned one until the tinworm made love to it.

    Lancia BEta HPE. the HPE standing for "High Performance Estate", but as a two door, it qualifies as a Shooting Brake.

    12144.jpg
    So the difference between my "not a shooting brake" Rabbit and your Lancia is?....

    Maybe is this one of those "Is it a small ketch or a yawl?" arguments that is best had at an extended EBS as the eye of the beholder has to be reckoned with.
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