Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 35 of 40

Thread: Garland derelict in his duty?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Rockford, IL
    Posts
    13,061

    Default Garland derelict in his duty?

    It would seem Merrick Garland himself is derelict in his duty if he cannot find a reason to indict Trump for dereliction of duty on Jan 6.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Douglasville, Ga
    Posts
    7,662

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Another issue that Beau had an interesting take on. I’m still holding out hope that Garland is going to prosecute, despite it taking a long time, though it needs to happen sooner than later at this point.
    Tom

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    victoria, australia. (1 address now)
    Posts
    70,692

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Precedent, and not wanting to be the AG that does the work. Linked to the Divine Right of Kings and saving the American constitutions face………….

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    afloat with at least 6' of water under me.
    Posts
    64,224

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    It would seem Merrick Garland himself is derelict in his duty if he cannot find a reason to indict Trump for dereliction of duty on Jan 6.
    This is not a crime for non military folk. In the military a crime is, has been committed. trumpslides through the cracks again.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    South Puget Sound/summer Eastern carib./winter
    Posts
    21,853

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    another gd let down

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    New Hampshire
    Posts
    39,303

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    I am hoping that he is holding back so that he does not interfere with the congressional hearings. Too many people offering immunity to get testimony can make both efforts a failure.

    At least, that's what I'm telling myself.
    "Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono

    "Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers

    "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    n.c. tn
    Posts
    9,987

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Garland, a conservative, was appointed with a duty to ensure the precedent set with Nixon is maintained.

    Immediately after taking the oath of office (protect against all enemies foriegn AND DOMESTIC), 46 should have ordered the arrest (and more.. Cheney gave him the tools, #gitmothelotofthem) of all suspected conspirators in 45's coup. He didn't.. he failed us.


    The problem with the progressives and liberals right now is that they are still treating this situation like we are in a state of normalcy. - Malcolm Nance.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Rockford, IL
    Posts
    13,061

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Garland was not too "conservative" for Obama to nominate him for SCJ. And he was not sufficiently "conservative" for the a-holes in the Senate to confirm the nomination. "conservative" indeed.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Wrocław, Poland
    Posts
    13,081

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    Garland was not too "conservative" for Obama to nominate him for SCJ. And he was not sufficiently "conservative" for the a-holes in the Senate to confirm the nomination. "conservative" indeed.
    Garland is indeed a moderate conservative, even more conservative than Obama. Obama nominated him precisely because virtually every Republican senator was on record saying things like "We would certainly approve an Obama nomination if he would name someone sensible, like Merrick Garland, but he's going to nominate an extreme liberal."

    Every one who spoke about Garland at all, as far as I can remember, specifically said they would approve him without question if he were nominated.

    Tom
    Ponoszenie konsekwencji!

    www.tompamperin.com

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Rockford, IL
    Posts
    13,061

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    "Even more conservative than Obama"? I would not apply the "C" word to Obama, ever.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Tacoma, WA
    Posts
    20,583

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Does the Commander in Chief of the military fall under the UCMJ?
    ITS CHAOS, BE KIND

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    in Orygun
    Posts
    3,550

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    So many charges to choose from. Dereliction of duty. Fomenting an insurrection. Instigating a riot. Many more I am sure.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    afloat with at least 6' of water under me.
    Posts
    64,224

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Gray View Post
    So many charges to choose from. Dereliction of duty. Fomenting an insurrection. Instigating a riot. Many more I am sure.
    BY Lhis supposed law only refers to thosem in the military. Check it out

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Seattle, WA USA
    Posts
    16,401

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Gray View Post
    So many charges to choose from. Dereliction of duty. Fomenting an insurrection. Instigating a riot. Many more I am sure.
    Harrison, Ohio, population 11,000, has a dereliction of duty statute in its municipal code. Why doesn't the United States Code?

    https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/code...oh/0-0-0-10250

    525.12 DERELICTION OF DUTY.
    . . .
    (e) No public servant shall recklessly fail to perform a duty expressly imposed by law with respect to the public servant’s office, or recklessly do any act expressly forbidden by law with respect to the public servant’s office.
    (f) Whoever violates this section is guilty of dereliction of duty, a misdemeanor of the second degree.


    Though violation of one's oath of office or failure to carry out the duties of the office really ought to be a felony.
    You would not enjoy Nietzsche, sir. He is fundamentally unsound. — P.G. Wodehouse (Carry On, Jeeves)

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    n.c. tn
    Posts
    9,987

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    "Even more conservative than Obama"? I would not apply the "C" word to Obama, ever.
    One definitely safely can.

    Not an insane Rep con, but most assuredly conservative.

    And Wi-Tom nailed why Obama nominated Garland.. as well as why Biden shouldn't have.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Albuquerque, NM
    Posts
    31,042

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    What we need is another Bobby Kennedy AG, and Garland is not it. If Biden fired him tomorrow I would be perfectly OK with it.
    Last edited by Gerarddm; 07-23-2022 at 01:14 PM.
    Gerard>
    Albuquerque, NM

    Every Republican is an obstacle to progress.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Frankfort, MI
    Posts
    10,790

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    I’m sure the AG must realize that, in order to do his job, he must provide a weekly briefing to every bilge member.

    General Grant was desperate to fire Pap Thomas right before the battle of Nashville, because he (Thomas) was a do-nothing, slow moving general who was, in Grant’s opinion, way too timid, and insufferably detail oriented.

    After the battle Grant wasn’t quite so desperate, mainly because Thomas won so big that he basically obliterated the Rebel army facing him, to the point where it was never again a cohesive fighting force.

    In the situation right now, a tremendously complex, multi-faceted investigation that is obviously ongoing and somewhat fluid, and where there is no real existing precedent to use for guidance, it might be well for us to be patient.

    Jeff C
    Don’t expect much, and you won’t be disappointed…

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    n.c. tn
    Posts
    9,987

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    ^ he did provide that briefing just recently when he notified the DoJ that Barr's rule of not investigating candidates running still stands. 45 is running again.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Richmond, Virginia
    Posts
    13,079

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    I think he would have been better as a supreme court justice.
    Skip

    ---This post is delivered with righteous passion and with a solemn southern directness --
    ...........fighting against the deliberate polarization of politics...

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Rubicon,WI
    Posts
    1,252

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    As was Bill Taft. Garland will never be an effective AG. Thank-you Moscow Mitch.

    Tom

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    West Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    10,178

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    The AG isn’t a lifetime appointee like a SCOTUS justice, and serves at the pleasure of the president. Blow up mccnnll’s head a little bit and get Joe to replace Garland with a someone who will put trmp in a cage.
    Speak softly and carry a mouthful of marbles.

  22. #22
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    Cumbria, UK
    Posts
    340

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    If the jury that tries Trump has to come to a unanimous verdict to find him guilty, what are the chances that at least one juror would be a Trumper.

    Would not a trial be a futile gesture, as were the impeachments.

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Hills of Vermont, USA
    Posts
    45,073

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcodger View Post
    If the jury that tries Trump has to come to a unanimous verdict to find him guilty, what are the chances that at least one juror would be a Trumper.

    Would not a trial be a futile gesture, as were the impeachments.
    ^ This. If Trump were taken to court & the gov't didn't win, it'd boost Trump's support hugely.
    "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    n.c. tn
    Posts
    9,987

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Fiddling while Rome burns..

    Biden was 'just being fair' when he ensured Thomas was confirmed. Garland is 'just being fair' while the rot eats away.

    www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term

    A radical plan for Trump’s second term

    Former President Trump’s top allies are preparing to radically reshape the federal government if he is re-elected, purging potentially thousands of civil servants and filling career posts with loyalists to him and his "America First” ideology, people involved in the discussions tell Axios.

    The impact could go well beyond typical conservative targets such as the Environmental Protection Agency and the Internal Revenue Service. Trump allies are working on plans that would potentially strip layers at the Justice Department — including the FBI, and reaching into national security, intelligence, the State Department and the Pentagon, sources close to the former president say.

    During his presidency, Trump often complained about what he called “the deep state.”

    The heart of the plan is derived from an executive order known as “Schedule F,” developed and refined in secret over most of the second half of Trump’s term and launched 13 days before the 2020 election.
    more, horribly much more, at the link.

    "The problem with the progressives and liberals right now is that they are still treating this situation like we are in a state of normalcy." - Malcolm Nance


    Perhaps never has "Winning isn't everything, it's the _only_ thing" been more true.. but Dems would rather 'die with honor' than be as 'the greatest generation' and do what's necessary, however unpleasant. The greater horror is they put more effort into thwarting liberal/progressive change than thwarting Rep/GQP excesses!

    A (democratic) Republic, _if_ you can keep it.. Theocratic Plutocracy, here we come!

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,238

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    "Even more conservative than Obama"? I would not apply the "C" word to Obama, ever.
    On the contrary, Obama had 57-8 votes in the Senate. All he had to do was blow up the filibuster to deliver of Med4All, getting money out of elections, voting rights, ending gerrymandering, and much more.

    He was no sort of progressive.

  26. #26
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Farmington, Oregon
    Posts
    20,471

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by sandtown View Post
    On the contrary, Obama had 57-8 votes in the Senate. All he had to do was blow up the filibuster to deliver of Med4All, getting money out of elections, voting rights, ending gerrymandering, and much more.

    He was no sort of progressive.
    what is the mechanism whereby the president “blows up” the filibuster?

    the senate makes their own procedural rules.

  27. #27
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Seattle, WA USA
    Posts
    16,401

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sandtown View Post
    On the contrary, Obama had 57-8 votes in the Senate. All he had to do was blow up the filibuster . . .
    Right, and as President, he can do that how?

    The Senate (and the House) make their own rules, and the will was not there to do that.
    You would not enjoy Nietzsche, sir. He is fundamentally unsound. — P.G. Wodehouse (Carry On, Jeeves)

  28. #28
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Farmington, Oregon
    Posts
    20,471

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    just as biden can't do it.

    just as president bernie could not have done, either, had he won election.

    i guess bernie is no sort of progressive either.

  29. #29
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Wrocław, Poland
    Posts
    13,081

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    "Even more conservative than Obama"? I would not apply the "C" word to Obama, ever.
    That's because you don't understand that, from a world perspective, there is no "liberal" side of the political spectrum in the U.S. The Democrats, including Obama, are a center-right party. You know, conservatives.

    Tom
    Ponoszenie konsekwencji!

    www.tompamperin.com

  30. #30
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Wrocław, Poland
    Posts
    13,081

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    just as biden can't do it.

    just as president bernie could not have done, either, had he won election.

    i guess bernie is no sort of progressive either.
    Just curious if there is a political thread anywhere in the Bilge where you have posted without mentioning Bernie Sanders? This one's about Merrick Garland...

    Tom
    Ponoszenie konsekwencji!

    www.tompamperin.com

  31. #31
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Douglasville, Ga
    Posts
    7,662

    Default Garland derelict in his duty?


    I am still holding out hope that he does the right thing.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Tom

  32. #32
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    West Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    10,178

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Picture Merrick Garland with half of his face painted blue, telling his staff of DoJ RICO warriors to “hold… hold… hold…”

    I’m guessing it’s sorta like that.
    Speak softly and carry a mouthful of marbles.

  33. #33
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    n.c. tn
    Posts
    9,987

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?


    I am still holding out hope that he does the right thing.
    ISTR this was also said and felt of Mueller, another conservative investigator/prosecutor. Also, SDNY dropped their case just as investigators felt they had cinched it. Google 'sdny investigation trump' and see what's being said.. by very mainstream media. NYT, Law Blogs, etc.

    It's over, we were - as usual - scammed.

  34. #34
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    victoria, australia. (1 address now)
    Posts
    70,692

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    The kind of investigation and presumed charges againd donald are the kind of thing that only a cautious conservative can mount and prosecute. Hasten slowly. Any charges will have to be absolutely watertight, and a more partisan AGr likely could not carry against a RW USSC. As it is the DOJ may not anyhow.

  35. #35
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Fredericton, New Brunswick
    Posts
    49,303

    Default Re: Garland derelict in his duty?

    Seems like Garland's been doing something after all.
    If I use the word "God," I sure don't mean an old man in the sky who just loves the occasional goat sacrifice. - Anne Lamott

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •