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    Iím resurfacing the foreword cabin top, and have a choice to eliminate the old Charlie Noble or keep it. The stove it used to service is long gone, so it is just a vent at this point. Itís kind of in the way, but it has some of the character of the old fish boat. But Snoose isnít a fish boat, nor is she a modern yacht. So I guess sheís a resto-mod? Ventilation is always good, but a lower dome vent might be better. Whatís your vote?

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    Default Re: Charlie Noble, yes or no?

    I guess without the stove, it's just a less-than-ideal vent. I would take advantage of the opportunity to easily eliminate the penetration or replace it with a more efficient vent.

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    I would leave it on or put a stove under it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    Iím resurfacing the foreword cabin top, and have a choice to eliminate the old Charlie Noble or keep it. The stove it used to service is long gone, so it is just a vent at this point. Itís kind of in the way, but it has some of the character of the old fish boat. But Snoose isnít a fish boat, nor is she a modern yacht. So I guess sheís a resto-mod? Ventilation is always good, but a lower dome vent might be better. Whatís your vote?

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    I rather like the Charlie Noble, but if it's not actually functional. . .

    One of these sitting on top of a Dorade box would be tasty. Pity the price is nuts, even by marine standards.

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    I thought a charlie noble was a spinny thing to pull air out, not a smoke head .

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    Would one of those low-profile solar RV rooftop vents assist with ventilation ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    I would leave it on or put a stove under it...
    Lots of things have changed since there was a stove under it, no need for one there now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Carey View Post
    I rather like the Charlie Noble, but if it's not actually functional. . .

    One of these sitting on top of a Dorade box would be tasty. Pity the price is nuts, even by marine standards.

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    Gee thanks Nicholas, that thing is worth more than my boat. And altho a Dorade box would help, I should mention that this part of the boat has been known to be under green water a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizbang 13 View Post
    I thought a charlie noble was a spinny thing to pull air out, not a smoke head .
    You might be right, but then a lot of people are wrong. Not unheard of mind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye54 View Post
    Would one of those low-profile solar RV rooftop vents assist with ventilation ?



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    Snoose has one of those on the aft cabin. We usually cover it when the noise drives us crazy, but useful on super hot days. The fo'c'sle needs air movement in the winter, thinking of maybe a low dome with a 12v computer fan going all winter.

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    I like the look of it and would keep as is

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    I would remove it.
    There is nothing quite as permanent as a good temporary repair.

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    Looks like a line catching trip hazard. Skookum though, so I can see why you've left it there.
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    I could not get the spiny thing's photo to come over but units with stack diameter 6" and smaller are around. Google 'ventilator turbine'. Can even find copper units which once turned green look great. Had one on Granuaile and it was wonderful. Most are set up as exhaust. Never had any rain drive in.

    I've had both passive dome type and solar/battery vents, all good in their place but not for there on that boat.

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    I would remove it...
    There's never going to be a better time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian McColgin View Post
    I could not get the spiny thing's photo to come over but units with stack diameter 6" and smaller are around. Google 'ventilator turbine'. Can even find copper units which once turned green look great. Had one on Granuaile and it was wonderful. Most are set up as exhaust. Never had any rain drive in.

    I've had both passive dome type and solar/battery vents, all good in their place but not for there on that boat.
    That’s a good idea. I might look into that. I’ve never been quite sure if it is better to add heat or to move exterior air through the space in the winter. Seems you can’t do both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    I would remove it...
    There's never going to be a better time.
    I’m leaning toward that, unless a case can be made for it removing moisture. I guess it comes down to the question I asked in response to Ian’s post. Is it better in Seattle winter to add heat to an (almost) closed space, or to move lots of outside air through?

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    If you don't use/need it, I'd take it off. As Jake said - never gonna be a better time.

    I am a little surprised you don't need some ventilation in that cabin though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    If you don't use/need it, I'd take it off. As Jake said - never gonna be a better time.

    I am a little surprised you don't need some ventilation in that cabin though.
    I DO need ventilation up there, but adding heat and then venting it out seems counterproductive.

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    It's an appendix. Since adjacent surgery is imminent, do the two-fer and move on.

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    I too would remove it and replace with a bronze mushroom vent you can dog down when greenwater threatens.
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    As a live-aboard through many Boston and somewhat milder Hyannis winters: If you provide heat, you really need to vent. Or you could vent only. Just not heat only.

    I would not leave a boat alone for a day or more with any kind of heat going. Especially electric heat. Seattle winter is mild enough, I'd leave venting in action and heat when aboard. Things warm up fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    Iím resurfacing the foreword cabin top, and have a choice to eliminate the old Charlie Noble or keep it. The stove it used to service is long gone, so it is just a vent at this point. Itís kind of in the way, but it has some of the character of the old fish boat. But Snoose isnít a fish boat, nor is she a modern yacht. So I guess sheís a resto-mod? Ventilation is always good, but a lower dome vent might be better. Whatís your vote?

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    If it is part of the original design/build then I would keep it.

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    By the way, the naming of a smoke head "Charlie Noble" was in memory of a British Navy officer of that name who made his crew polish everything, even the sooty and greasy smoke head from the galley.

    ETA - Wikipedia says he was in the merchant marine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Noble
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    Just have to add that when I was little and dad would comment on a boat's Charlie Noble, I'd always look for a person. One day I finally said "I don't see anyone on that boat Dad" & though broken up with laughter, got the explanation.
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    So what did you decide to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    So what did you decide to do?
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    However, the hole in the original planking is still there under the plywood, easily accessible from below. So I can always cut the plywood away and put it back, (which I doubt I will do), or more likely put a low profile bronze mushroom in its place.

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    Looks great.
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    Tomorrow, another amine blush scrub, a light sanding and a coat of paint. Then I can start reinstalling trim, handrails, etc.

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    Nice!

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    A lot more to do, repairing, filling, reinstalling trim etc. but Iím making a little progress. Boy I REALLY like Marshallís Cove paint, but I wonít post that in the paint and varnish thread lest I hear from Mr. Ford about why I shouldnít like it.

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