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  • Joe (SoCal)
    Banned
    • Feb 2002
    • 46431

    #16
    Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

    Originally posted by woodpile
    Not a chance Pelosi will make sure of that.
    1. Did Mr Biden legitimately win the 2020 presidential election? If not, why not?


    2. What do you think of the attempt to interfere by force with the electoral vote count on January 6, 2021? If you approve, explain.

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    • StevenBauer
      LPBC member
      • Jan 2000
      • 23277

      #17
      Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

      Mike Flynn’s brother General Charles Flynn was in the Pentagon the day of the insurrection helping to delay the response of the National Guard. The pentagon denied it for a while then admitted it. So is he rotting in jail as he should be? No. He is in Command of the US Army Pacific theater. The army’s largest service component command.

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      • bobbys
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 30711

        #18
        Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

        Originally posted by Joe (SoCal)
        1. Did Mr Biden legitimately win the 2020 presidential election? If not, why not?


        2. What do you think of the attempt to interfere by force with the electoral vote count on January 6, 2021? If you approve, explain.

        .

        What?

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        • bobbys
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 30711

          #19
          Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

          Originally posted by Joe (SoCal)
          1. Did Mr Biden legitimately win the 2020 presidential election? If not, why not?


          2. What do you think of the attempt to interfere by force with the electoral vote count on January 6, 2021? If you approve, explain.

          Where.

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          • Tom Montgomery
            Lurking since 1997
            • Sep 1999
            • 35616

            #20
            Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

            .
            What is on second.
            "They have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people." -- James Carville on the plethora of low-quality GQP candidates in the mid-term election.

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            • Tom Montgomery
              Lurking since 1997
              • Sep 1999
              • 35616

              #21
              Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

              .
              Where is sitting in the bleacher seats.
              "They have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people." -- James Carville on the plethora of low-quality GQP candidates in the mid-term election.

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              • bobbys
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 30711

                #22
                Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

                Originally posted by Joe (SoCal)
                1. Did Mr Biden legitimately win the 2020 presidential election? If not, why not?


                2. What do you think of the attempt to interfere by force with the electoral vote count on January 6, 2021? If you approve, explain.

                Who.

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                • Tom Montgomery
                  Lurking since 1997
                  • Sep 1999
                  • 35616

                  #23
                  Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

                  .
                  Who is on first.

                  Where is the coward? Posting in the Bilge from the Oregon coast.
                  "They have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people." -- James Carville on the plethora of low-quality GQP candidates in the mid-term election.

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                  • Nicholas Carey
                    Flâneur • Seattle
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 20371

                    #24
                    Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

                    Originally posted by CWSmith
                    I'm a little bit surprised the Secret Service doesn't have a policy of deleting internal communications. There is a need for the POTUS to trust his bodyguards and they hear everything. They can't do their job if he can't trust them to keep his secrets.
                    People going to prison over the destruction of records.

                    In general, once, you've been served, it becomes a crime to destroy any documents that might be subject to discovery. You don't have to have any sort of document retention policy (and you could even have a document retention policy that says, say, documents get destroyed after 30 days, but regardless, once served, any covered documents in your possession must be preserved.

                    And . . .

                    There are multiple statutes like this in the US Code. For instance, 18 USC 1519 (Title 18, Chapter 73, Obstruction of Justice)

                    18 USC 1519[/url] - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

                    Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

                    Also 18 USC 20171 (Title 18, Chapter 101, Records and Reports):

                    18 USC 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

                    (a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

                    (b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
                    Last edited by Nicholas Carey; 07-16-2022, 01:43 AM.
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                    — Adam Gopnik

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                    • Canoeyawl
                      .
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 37705

                      #25
                      Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

                      Is anyone still wondering why pence wouldn't get in the car with the SS ?

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                      • skuthorp
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 73627

                        #26
                        Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

                        Far from moving on, the rot continues and will take years to root out. Spying by a foreign power could not do more harm than whiteanting from within has, and is.

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                        • Garret
                          Hills of Vermont
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 48655

                          #27
                          Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

                          While it's fun to blame it on Trump - and much can be - the rot in the SS was present long before Trump even thought of running. You have to remember that the RWWs have been around a long time - especially the Evangelicals (see US Air Force).

                          Trump just brought 'em out from under the rocks.
                          "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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                          • Tom Montgomery
                            Lurking since 1997
                            • Sep 1999
                            • 35616

                            #28
                            Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

                            Originally posted by Garret
                            While it's fun to blame it on Trump - and much can be - the rot in the SS was present long before Trump even thought of running. You have to remember that the RWWs have been around a long time - especially the Evangelicals (see US Air Force).

                            Trump just brought 'em out from under the rocks.
                            Well... I could disabuse you of that notion regarding the Secret Service... but there are reasons why I cannot.
                            "They have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people." -- James Carville on the plethora of low-quality GQP candidates in the mid-term election.

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                            • shortboot
                              Member
                              • Feb 2022
                              • 79

                              #29
                              Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

                              Even Biden

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                              • Garret
                                Hills of Vermont
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 48655

                                #30
                                Re: Everything Trump touched in the WH turned into a stinking pile f excrement

                                Originally posted by Tom Montgomery
                                Well... I could disabuse you of that notion regarding the Secret Service... but there are reasons why I cannot.
                                I'm not saying he didn't make things worse - that's his specialty after all - but the SS has had issue for some time.
                                "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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