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    [IMc - The Roman Catholic Church spreads a very large tent, from "liberation theology" to institutional fascists. It is not anti-Catholic to criticize the totalitarian while celebrating Jesus. Nor is it antiAmerican to criticize the capture of democratic institutions by lying subversives while celebrating the struggle for a free vote.]

    Supreme Court Judges Sharing an Opus Dei Seal of Approval

    BY MATTHEW FOX
    JUNE 29, 2022
    ABORTION, OPUS DEI, SUPREME COURT

    To understand the goings on in SCOTUS today, you must understand Opus Dei, a fascist organization in the Roman Catholic Church. Why?

    Leonard Leo, Federalist Society co-chairman and board member of Opus Dei’s Catholic Information Center, facilitated the appointment of Supreme Court justices John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett.

    Because the person who forwarded five names to the senate for approval as supreme court judges is Leonardo Leo, who is an out of the closet Opus Dei operative. It was he who pushed Mitch McConnell to nominate Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett for SCOTUS. He is also “closest friends” with Clarence Thomas and has been called “one of the most powerful figures in the United States.”*

    Leo is executive vice president of the Federalist Society and co-director of the board of directors of “Catholic Information Center” which is a right-wing Catholic think tank in Washington DC that raises millions of dollars to promote conservative judges. The Charles Koch Foundation is heavily involved also, having given $30 million to the cause; so too is the NRA.

    I have studied Opus Dei and its founder who was a fascist Spanish priest and ally of dictator Franco. He was rushed into canonization under Pope JP II faster than any “saint” in history. He also “connived” in his own canonization before he died—the only “saint” I ever heard of who did that.**

    Opus Dei is about control, not freedom. Theocracy, not democracy. Part of fascist ideology is that it is fitting that men have control over women’s bodies (my book documents this). Indeed, control is what fascism and Opus Dei are all about.

    Mussolini defined fascism as the “marriage of corporations and government” and we are seeing that play out in the current SCOTUS where environmental rights take second place to corporate power; and voting rights get gutted in favor of dark money from very dark corporations (NRA and Koch brothers among them).

    “After Which Failed Pregnancy Should I Have Been Imprisoned?” U.S. Representative Lucy McBath (D.,GA) tells the House Judiciary Committee her experience of reproductive care following a stillbirth.

    And the Supreme Court itself becomes a cesspool of religious ideology ignoring the pluralism of American culture in favor of a far right version of evangelical and Roman Catholic Christianity committed to anti-abortion fanaticism.

    Susan Sontag defines fascism as “institutional violence”– which is surely what is happening where states are bent on locking up women for miscarriages, inciting bounty hunters to chase pregnant women, forcing women and girls to term even if they have been raped or victims of incest, threatening doctors with jail terms. Cruelty rules and Institutional Violence is alive and well thanks to this unsupreme court.

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    Yes, they are pushing it hard.
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    To understand the goings on in SCOTUS today, you must understand Opus Dei, a fascist organization in the Roman Catholic Church. Why?
    The article doesn't deal with, let alone answer the question.

    It's Evangelicals and the WASP lumpenproletariat who did it. Catholics are along for the ride, a pure marriage of convenience. If fascism comes to America, Catholics will quickly learn who's who and what's what.
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    The Spanish Inquisition immediately sprang to mind.
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    "Catholics will quickly learn who's who and what's what." [#3]

    Like the Roman Catholic Church did with Franco, Mussolini, and others. Look up 'clerical fascism', but don't forget that the RCC has people on every side from left to right. Engagement with the world.

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    Organised religions are all about money, politics and power, with thin skin of ethics to keep the proles happy. The more organised, the more corrupt, but then humans are like that.

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    Opus Dei seem to have low numbers in the Oz Catholic church but their target is set directly at recruiting in university campus and off campus accomodation then grooming the high achieving members for leadership in Govt and media etc. In Australia there stronghold has been in New South Wales and former Prime Minister Tony Abbott along with Murdoch journalist Greg Sheridan are associated with Opus day and were recruited at the Opus day run accommodation at Sydney University. Interestingly it suited Cardinal Pell to give Opus day a free reign and help consolidate their position in Australia
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    Opus Dei has been in the shadows of some Midwest social conservatives. Not naming names, but it was noticed when our senator or congress critter goes to Washington and lives in a compound...the stuff of conspiracy theory and why it is so real.

    I am a non Catholic. I got sent to Western Kansas for being incorrigible midway through my junior year. The school was run by Capuchin monks. It used to be a military academy but in the mid seventies in the wake of the Vietnam War, they rebranded it as a prep school. Real culture shock for me, especially their robes. The order is an off shoot of the original Franciscans. The monkeys got the name Capuchin because they look like the hooded priests. They made a real impression on me. Unlike priests I knew in Wichita and Kansas City, these guys took the additional vows of humility and poverty. They didn't have Thunderbirds or Lincolns and didn't go on ski trips to Vail. They didn't even have cars. My Brit Lit teacher took a few of us to the barracks where the priests lived (in our senior year we had real dorm rooms) and handed out the five worn paperback books (his only possessions) because he had just been re-assigned to be the head of priest of town's church and didn't want any distractions serving his new community.

    Later, as an adult out on the town in Kansas City in college bars and being too senseless to know what a strong Jesuit community it is. the news was on the bar television about the shocking news from Boston about the church covering up decades of sexual abuse by Jesuit priests.

    I shouted out amongst my new found friends and date that the Pope should put a Capuchin in charge of the Boston. I was instantly unfriended. But damn if Pope John Paul II didn't end up appointing Cardinal Seán Patrick O’Malley, OFM Cap. as Archbishop of Boston.

    I am troubled about the current pope and the degree to which the church didn't stand up to Uncle Sam and the crazy anticommunist jihad that "wiped out" (murdered as in "tortured and murdered" ) a generation of young South American intellectuals trying to make a better world. Opus Dei and its close association to fascism is a bad faction in the church, but not the only one.
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    No wonder Adolf didn't loot and burn the place when he had the chance………………...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    It's Evangelicals and the WASP lumpenproletariat who did it. Catholics are along for the ride, a pure marriage of convenience. If fascism comes to America, Catholics will quickly learn who's who and what's what.
    The same Evangelicals and "lumpenproletariat" who, at the highest levels of church hierarchy, are denying President Biden communion in catholic churches?

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    The same ones Trump was pandering to when he attended the Pope John Paul ll shrine.
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    There will be some resistance, but officially…..
    Originally Posted by Osborne Russell
    It's Evangelicals and the WASP lumpenproletariat who did it. Catholics are along for the ride, a pure marriage of convenience. If fascism comes to America, Catholics will quickly learn who's who and what's what..
    they'll compromise as usual, survival of the church and it's power structure being of primary importance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallam View Post
    The same ones Trump was pandering to when he attended the Pope John Paul ll shrine.
    Yep. Darn Evangelicals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landrith View Post
    Opus Dei and its close association to fascism is a bad faction in the church, but not the only one.
    I don't often agree with Landrith, but on this one he's right. Opus Dei has done a lot of harm in various places - they were closely associated with the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile, for one example. But the Catholic Church is large and diverse, probably the oldest continuously-functioning organization on the planet, and Opus Dei is only a small bit, if all too influential in some places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    I don't often agree with Landrith, but on this one he's right. Opus Dei has done a lot of harm in various places - they were closely associated with the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile, for one example. But the Catholic Church is large and diverse, probably the oldest continuously-functioning organization on the planet, and Opus Dei is only a small bit, if all too influential in some places.
    An interesting number of science fiction writers have created stories of future worlds in which the Catholic church is the only surviving institution from civilized days. Two that come to mind:

    A Canticle for Leibowitz (Walter Miller)
    Hiero's Journey (Sterling E. Lanier)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    The article doesn't deal with, let alone answer the question.

    It's Evangelicals and the WASP lumpenproletariat who did it. Catholics are along for the ride, a pure marriage of convenience. If fascism comes to America, Catholics will quickly learn who's who and what's what.
    "It" is the current Supreme Court, topic of the article. Catholics were hitch-hikers.

    To understand the goings on in SCOTUS today, you must understand Opus Dei, a fascist organization in the Roman Catholic Church. Why?
    The article doesn't deal with, let alone answer the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post

    Originally Posted by Osborne Russell
    The article doesn't deal with, let alone answer the question.

    It's Evangelicals and the WASP lumpenproletariat who did it. Catholics are along for the ride, a pure marriage of convenience. If fascism comes to America, Catholics will quickly learn who's who and what's what

    "It" is the current Supreme Court, topic of the article. Catholics were hitch-hikers.

    ...
    Or, the "Evangelicals and the WASP lumpenproletariat " were 'useful idiots', believing themselves thinking and acting for themselves while being led by the nose. The Catholic Church, like the Chinese, plays a long game - and neither considers any individual life important. As for 'marriage of convenience', look back to Franklin Graham making peace with The Church.

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    Does the phrase 'fellow travelers' ring a bell?

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