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    Imagine any regulatory agency with no teeth...

    https://www.eenews.net/articles/supr...nd-regulation/
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    50 separate nations on one continent.

    Even Europe knows better than to do that again.
    A society predicated on the assumption that everyone in it should want to get rich is not well situated to become either ethical or imaginative.

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    Red States.jpg
    Steve Brodner's illustration of our division.
    A society predicated on the assumption that everyone in it should want to get rich is not well situated to become either ethical or imaginative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Haberland View Post
    Imagine any regulatory agency with no teeth...

    https://www.eenews.net/articles/supr...nd-regulation/
    Maybe the Texans wanting to secede have a point!

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    Dang. I thought we had a giant asteroid on the way.

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    Because Congress is better at non-partisan scientific analysis than the specific agencies created to date? Kavanaugh is such a putz.

    Congress is the pack of idiots who asked the CIA to whip up a NIE determining Iraq’s “WMD” threat for a war that was already in motion then spent 72 hrs reading it before the vote. My God will Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz determine the basis for methane emission regulations? Ahh eff it. It’s not like homo saps will change stripes and sacrifice immediate reward for some universal good.
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    I suggest the term "United States" is fast becoming redundant.

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    My take is that the fall of Roe could well trigger a legal cascade that ultimately will lead to the dissolution of the U.S., Likely leading to 3 nations where there was once one.
    He was one of the most supremely stupid men I have ever met. He taught me a great deal.

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    And then the killings would commence…… I cannot imagine that existing state borders would be acceptable. and looking at the mud map in#3, workable. Can you imagine the mess over water just for a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    I suggest the term "United States" is fast becoming redundant.
    Not the term I'd use Ununited might be more appropriate.

    Trump has destroyed everything he's touched. Why do people think the USA is immune?
    "alternative facts (lies)" are a cancer eating through a democracy, and will kill it. 1st amendment is not absolute.

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    "If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping with a mosquito"

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    This SC is going to kill a lot of people, with no personal consequence, except maybe to their children and grand children.

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    A very conservative christian I once knew said while they didn't want to die (because they wanted to see their kids grow up) but if it happened, well that would be ok because they would get to see Jesus that much sooner...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Haberland View Post
    Imagine any regulatory agency with no teeth...

    https://www.eenews.net/articles/supr...nd-regulation/
    Good article. But several misconceptions are prevalent. From the WaPo:

    The Supreme Court on Thursday sharply cut back the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to reduce the carbon output of existing power plants, a blow to the Biden administration’s plans for combating climate change.
    No, they didn't. They ruled that Congress had not given the EPA the authority. They did not rule that Congress could not do so.

    “Capping carbon dioxide emissions at a level that will force a nationwide transition away from the use of coal to generate electricity may be a sensible ‘solution to the crisis of the day,’ ” Roberts wrote, referring to a court precedent. “But it is not plausible that Congress gave EPA the authority to adopt on its own such a regulatory scheme.”
    Congress tells the EPA to clean up the air. The EPA decides, in order to do that, we'll need to nationalize the entire power grid and all power plants. The first question is, did Congress give the EPA that authority? If not, game over. Rule of law, not men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stromborg View Post
    A very conservative christian I once knew said while they didn't want to die (because they wanted to see their kids grow up) but if it happened, well that would be ok because they would get to see Jesus that much sooner...

    They will not recognize him, and kill him all over again

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    I suggest the term "United States" is fast becoming redundant.
    Need only swap two letters Untied States
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    They will not recognize him, and kill him all over again

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    Of course, even if they did recognise him they have likely come to the conclusion he was far to dangerous to allow to live already.

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    Why does anyone thing this country is immune to the destruction of Trump?
    "alternative facts (lies)" are a cancer eating through a democracy, and will kill it. 1st amendment is not absolute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    Good article. But several misconceptions are prevalent. From the WaPo:



    No, they didn't. They ruled that Congress had not given the EPA the authority. They did not rule that Congress could not do so.



    Congress tells the EPA to clean up the air. The EPA decides, in order to do that, we'll need to nationalize the entire power grid and all power plants. The first question is, did Congress give the EPA that authority? If not, game over. Rule of law, not men.
    In my world, if you give one an assignment, it is reasonably assumed one gets the tools necessary do carry out that assignment.

    Would you send men into war without weapons?
    "alternative facts (lies)" are a cancer eating through a democracy, and will kill it. 1st amendment is not absolute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    Good article. But several misconceptions are prevalent. From the WaPo:



    No, they didn't. They ruled that Congress had not given the EPA the authority. They did not rule that Congress could not do so.



    Congress tells the EPA to clean up the air. The EPA decides, in order to do that, we'll need to nationalize the entire power grid and all power plants. The first question is, did Congress give the EPA that authority? If not, game over. Rule of law, not men.
    Congress created the EPA so your (& the court's) nitpicking is simply wrong. This could have fallout that goes way beyond the EPA & you try to minimize it. Sheesh.

    This decision is a wet dream for Republicans because they can simply ignore EPA regs & get on with destroying the planet.

    We get to go back to the 70's where acid rain made northern NY lakes sterile & acid fog killed millions of trees in the northeast - including Canada - who I hope will sue the pants off any polluters.

    Then, we can remove OSHA, get back to a 60 hour work week and remove all bank regs. Just what the Rep. crooks want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    In my world, if you give one an assignment, it is reasonably assumed one gets the tools necessary do carry out that assignment.

    Would you send men into war without weapons?
    There must be no limited government in your world. Delegation of power to an admin agency cannot be a delegation of the entire power of the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Congress created the EPA so your (& the court's) nitpicking is simply wrong.
    I don't follow. Congress created the EPA, and delegated various powers to it. Congress did not delegate this power, therefore, it doesn't have this power. That isn't nitpicking, that's the ball game.

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