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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mahan View Post
    Why?

    For the same reason as I have several pistols from the early 1900’s, several from the late 1800’s, a single shot rifle that can be described and used as an elephant gun, etc etc.

    Firearms are one of my many interests. I have cars, tractors, motorcycles and boats too. Also things like a coal forge. Things interest me and I follow my interests.

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    Default Re: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen

    Comparing the US with Honduras and Losotho is not, perhaps the most useful way to look at it. Here's another way - high-income countries, populations of 10 million or more.

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    Default Re: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen

    Cherry picking your comps isn’t all that persuasive either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedog225 View Post
    Cherry picking your comps isn’t all that persuasive either.
    Of course not; that was my point. If there's ever a subject where it's easy to make a chart that demonstrates whatever you like, this is it. There are plenty of places more violent than the US, most of them poor and disorganized. Among rich countries with functional movements, the US is an outlier. But there's no simple correlation between the prevalence of guns and the number of corpses; it's a lot more complicated than that.
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    I think we have a huge problem. On that we agree.

    I don’t know that this pursuit of firearms is focused on the problem of violent (murderous) people in our society.

    I wonder why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
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    Was working on my personal gun control this morning.

    300 yards, no optics, 60 year old eyes.

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    A little surprised by the backdrop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedog225 View Post
    A little surprised by the backdrop.
    15’ high berm back there at about 650 yards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decourcy View Post
    For the same reason as I have several pistols from the early 1900’s, several from the late 1800’s, a single shot rifle that can be described and used as an elephant gun, etc etc.

    Firearms are one of my many interests. I have cars, tractors, motorcycles and boats too. Also things like a coal forge. Things interest me and I follow my interests.
    And you are really interested in several thousand rounds of ammunition also?

    Hey every man needs a hobby I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    And you are really interested in several thousand rounds of ammunition also?

    Hey every man needs a hobby I guess.
    If he bought it a few years ago he saved a bunch of $$.
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    A brick of 22lr isn’t much bigger than a beer. I forget whether they were 500 or 1000. Been a while since I bought one.

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    Concealed handgun now good, concealed fixed blade pocket knife bad - but OK if open-carried.
    From the outside looking in, US lawmaking is just one big exercise in WTF are you guys smoking .

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    Reading the opinion gives some good context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    If he bought it a few years ago he saved a bunch of $$.

    Yup. I could see the prices rising so grabbed what I could. And besides, 200 rounds of .223 or 9mm isn’t hard to run through at a target afternoon. Especially if I have a few friends over. I don’t shoot a lot of rimfire anymore, but a 500 round brick was a day when I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Was working on my personal gun control this morning.

    300 yards, no optics, 60 year old eyes.

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    What is the rifle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decourcy View Post
    What is the rifle?
    Schmidt Rubin K31, 1943. Used by the Swiss Militia until 1958.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epoxyboy View Post
    Concealed handgun now good, concealed fixed blade pocket knife bad - but OK if open-carried.
    From the outside looking in, US lawmaking is just one big exercise in WTF are you guys smoking .
    Here in Seattle, you can wander around with an AK-47 or AR-15, 2 9mm pistols on your belt and bandoliers of ammunition.

    But carrying a knife (folding or not, and concealed or not) with a blade longer than 3 inches? You go to jail for that.

    Figure that one out.
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    When I was a boy we had (among other things) a K31 with a side mounted scope

    edit to add: The original "Radio Shack" in 1950's Boston had wooden barrels on the showroom floor stuffed full of surplus rifles from $9.99 to $29.95
    Mannlichers, Enfields, Springfields, M1 Garand or carbines, you name it!
    This K-31 rifle came from there, I wonder where it is today?
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    Default Re: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen

    I was foolishly going to run away to mountain wilderness in Canada (before Prime Minister Trudeau realized I was coming) and I figured I needed a guide gun for bear defense (why Canada and Europe's Nordic countries are never banning rifles). I got two military surplus Mausers at auction probably from one of those 1950's wood barrels. The 8mm 98 had been sporterized by a bubba and the small ring Mauser was unidentifiable. Later I decided the auction listing had made an error about the caliber. I had been anticipating learning all the 7mm ballistics. It turned out not to be 7mm. I could not figure out what the caliber was and was about to do a chamber casting for better measurements. Then I did some more research since it had an Oviedo serial number and a couple hidden proof marks.

    To my delight, those nice Fascists at Spain's Mauser Fabrica De Armas Oviedo had factory scrubbed the gun of all national markingings and rechambered it for Lake City 7.62 mm NATO available everywhere cheap. They had even prepared scope mounts and reworked the original military stock to a simple shorter stock, seemingly perfectly duplicating my favorite Diana air rifle in weight, size, and feel.

    Prime Minister Trudea did not add either Mauser to the banned military rifle list. He just banned me. lol.

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