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    Default 20 years of screwcap closures for wine.

    It has been 20 years since screwcaps were first used to seal New Zealand wine bottles. It's been a long time since I last had a corked bottle of wine.

    Let's see if this brings out the science deniers!

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    Default Re: 20 years of screwcap closures for wine.

    These days I'm just as likely to find a manmade cork rather than a cork cork..
    Just an amateur bodging away..

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    Default Re: 20 years of screwcap closures for wine.

    I’m perfectly happy with screw caps.

    I’m also happy with wine boxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    I’m perfectly happy with screw caps.

    I’m also happy with wine boxes.
    I hope that the economics of wine boxes has improved.
    It used to be the case that the plastic bladder and tap assembled in the box cost more than the crappy wine they contained.
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    Default Re: 20 years of screwcap closures for wine.

    The Boy (i need to call him something else now, I suppose) and his girl were in town a few weekends ago, I told them to look in the cabinet and open a bottle or two for dinner. She had to show him how to operate the fancy two-stroke corkscrew, it seems that their students' budget keeps them exclusively in screwtops.

    I like what this guy had to say about boxed wines...

    What color are their hands now?

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    Default Re: 20 years of screwcap closures for wine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    I’m perfectly happy with screw caps.

    I’m also happy with wine boxes.
    Ah le chateau cardboard .
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    Default Re: 20 years of screwcap closures for wine.

    only 20 years in en zed?

    i seem to recall our boones farm had screw caps in the '80's.

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    Buy NZ , buy NZ, says my wife.
    Ahh, but the Australians really do know how to make red, says I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    I hope that the economics of wine boxes has improved.
    It used to be the case that the plastic bladder and tap assembled in the box cost more than the crappy wine they contained.
    Yes, the plastic bladder has become much cheaper to produce so the economics have improved.
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    Boones farm….I can almost smell it.

    Remember the lead cork covers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    I’m also happy with wine boxes.
    Back in my drinking days, I would eschew wine boxes. The wine, I'd drink, but I'd toss the box afterwards.
    He was one of the most supremely stupid men I have ever met. He taught me a great deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Yes, the plastic bladder has become much cheaper to produce so the economics have improved.
    Que Syrah , syrah.

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    Thought I should claret up.
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    Very savvy of you.

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    well, leshee, what i got in the cabernet...

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    Thank you, verdelho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    only 20 years in en zed?

    i seem to recall our boones farm had screw caps in the '80's.

    Had a screw cap in the 70's, as well. But, that's a wine cooler, not a wine.

    Same for, Thunderbird, which was a, " fortified wine." ( Two quick glances of the screw cap neck) The screw cap let us," shake it up."




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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    Had a screw cap in the 70's, as well. But, that's a wine cooler, not a wine.
    well, so is arbor mist but tell that to my aunts upstate.

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    Then why are screw caps used only on the cheaper wines?
    I'm not a wine snob, but if it's under $12/bottle, I usually don't touch it.
    I only have one glass a day, so it's got to be worth it.
    I want to enjoy it, not just drink it.
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    I rarely drink at all so a bottle of wine would go to waste in our house.
    We usually get a carton of white and red wine occasionally but they still seem to last for months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    Then why are screw caps used only on the cheaper wines?
    I'm not a wine snob, but if it's under $12/bottle, I usually don't touch it.
    I only have one glass a day, so it's got to be worth it.
    I want to enjoy it, not just drink it.
    We need no further evidence that you are, indeed, not a wine snob Rich!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    We need no further evidence that you are, indeed, not a wine snob Rich!
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    We gots culture, ya know!
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    Thanks for the video. We don't drink enough wine to keep it from going bad. So boxed wines - that last a bit longer after opening - are the ticket here. But we still age it out, and end up using it for cooking. But I'm always on the lookout for a better quality than what in our local supermarket. Might try one of the two he approved of next time.
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    I think it has been well established that screw caps markedly reduce the rate of spoilage in wines.
    That higher priced wines have continued using corks is down to tradition, not quality, hence my remark about science denial. Some people dont mind paying more for a little ceremony around the opening of the bottle.
    Getting a spoiled wine is even more of a bummer if one has paid a lot for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    Iím perfectly happy with screw caps.

    Iím also happy with wine boxes.

    I havent bought wine in boxes for years, though I have no objection to them if the wine they contain is of good quality.

    When I was young I had a party trick where I could inflate a 3 litre winecask with one breath, after I had helped empty it. I wouldn't try that now.
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    Emptying it or inflating it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    Buy NZ , buy NZ, says my wife.
    Ahh, but the Australians really do know how to make red, says I.
    I know what you mean. Oz reds seem to have a better finish...the heat maybe? Decent quality NZ reds are relatively more expensive too.
    I've been drinking some nice Marlborough whites that aren't expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Emptying it or inflating it?
    I would inflate it after contributing to the emptying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiletto View Post
    I know what you mean. Oz reds seem to have a better finish...the heat maybe? Decent quality NZ reds are relatively more expensive too.
    I've been drinking some nice Marlborough whites that aren't expensive.
    I like Rabbit ranch, it's a nice but expensive ish enzedder.
    Plus I like the picture.

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    Yeah, the article I linked to in the original post acknowledged the Australian origin of the system.
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    Until I read that article, I didn't realise that screw caps were more common on NZ and Aus wines. I thought they were just as common elsewhere but it seems that's not so.
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    Early adopters, thats why we get used to test out tech stuff too.

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