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    what traditional small open boat sailing looks like in poland

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    ^ Stosh! Get the keilbasa out of the bilge!
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    WOW! Look at the bend on that boom! And lee helm?!?

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    Its got a Norwegian Snekke look to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh MacD View Post
    WOW! Look at the bend on that boom! And lee helm?!?
    Lee helm, or just starting a tack?

    I like it. No PFDs, and dark clothes, so when you fall overboard, no one has to waste time looking for you. I admire the inherent self-sufficiency.

    But "small" is stretching it. That would be a big boat by my usual standards. A very big boat. Probably doesn't row all that well, either.

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    Bare feet?

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    Seems he fixed his lee helm. WTF. No. No. and No.

    4-Galeria

    More Tom stylee...

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    Well, that's one way to hang an outboard on a double-ender . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan McCosh View Post
    Bare feet?
    gotta keep shoes dry for land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    More Tom stylee...

    Oh, yeah--I like that a LOT.

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    I was thinking about that "starting a tack" thing, too, but I figured the "rail bait" probably would have his feet inboard at that stage On the 2nd shot with the white sails is there a guy behind the main on a "trapeze"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh MacD View Post
    I was thinking about that "starting a tack" thing, too, but I figured the "rail bait" probably would have his feet inboard at that stage On the 2nd shot with the white sails is there a guy behind the main on a "trapeze"?
    And here I thought he was probably getting ready to abandon ship! (Good catch on the trapeze--I missed that).

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    I'm looking at the way the water is coming over the lee rail and thinking he's trying to luff up so they can put a reef in.
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    Interesting...lapstrake but not built over molds (Western) or from a centreline and sticks (Norwegian). Right way up, sawn frames. Just a centreline string.

















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    Roman Polanski shooting his movie Knife In The Water, about a Polish guy who goes sailing in his bathrobe. Are they about to tack?

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    my favourite pic of his build

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    Paul, is that the build shown in Edward’s pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    what traditional small open boat sailing looks like in poland

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    3 seconds later it sank.

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    There's a choice of 4 sizes...

    15k euros gets Tom a new 20ft European lover. That's bargainacious.



    http://struckboat.pl/12-Budowa_lodzi_drewnianych

    From Gdansk it'd be a drive or sail north to the Stockhom archipelago (30,000 islands).
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    Video of the big one...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    Video of the big one...
    it seems like you are becoming a fan of these boats
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    IIRC they are built on a wideish flat keel plank to suit the skinny waters. That is why the dagger board.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    post 16 does not look like a wideish flat plank keel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    There's a choice of 4 sizes...

    15k euros gets Tom a new 20ft European lover. That's bargainacious.



    http://struckboat.pl/12-Budowa_lodzi_drewnianych

    From Gdansk it'd be a drive or sail north to the Stockhom archipelago (30,000 islands).
    Jeez, that's both a huge bargain, and impossibly too expensive for my budget. Unless I could sell it at not too big a loss--from $15k to $10k, maybe? A nice dream that I will ponder on, though my head says "not gonna happen" right now.

    I've been eyeing up the Swedish archipelagos and the Finnish coast for a long long time. A boat like this would be great. Though of course I'd need a few changes:

    1. Make it cartoppable
    2. And capable of carrying up to 6 passengers/crew
    3. And sleep 4 comfortably
    4. Make it row easily, solo, with minimal wetted surface and a nice lean slippery hull
    5. With enough beam to stand up to a whole mess of sail area

    How'd I do?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    post 16 does not look like a wideish flat plank keel
    OK this one is not so wide, but still flat, and unlike Scandi boats, flat floors and little/no hollow in the garboards.


    I wonder what part of the hull he was adzing out.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Ever watch Knife in water?

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    Ness Yawl fixer upper...on ebay Ł600 (Essex England). Prolly won't get any bids (pictures are pretty poor and needs bits making. Cheap stuff comes up now and again Tom.




    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255547656...YAAOSwEYJiinGd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    Ness Yawl fixer upper...on ebay Ł600 (Essex England). Prolly won't get any bids (pictures are pretty poor and needs bits making. Cheap stuff comes up now and again Tom.




    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255547656...YAAOSwEYJiinGd
    The mast needs attention, but the rest of it looks not too bad.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    Ness Yawl fixer upper...on ebay Ł600 (Essex England). Prolly won't get any bids (pictures are pretty poor and needs bits making. Cheap stuff comes up now and again Tom.




    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255547656...YAAOSwEYJiinGd
    Awesome! When can you have it ready for me to pick up?

    Sadly, I won't likely have access to a shop, nor any tools, for at least the first year. Looking at the apartment we've reserved, I'm not sure I'll even manage to fit my clothes and shoes in.

    But I have some hopes that I'll manage some sailing. Likeliest option will be to buy something in sail-away condition, and sell when I return to the U.S. Even selling at a loss, it'll be like a cheap lease that will get me to some European waters.

    Something with decent rowing capacity, as I hear Europe has canals...

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    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Yep, big busy ones.
    Your map only shows classified waterways, options for small craft look more like this:

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    https://woodenships.co.uk/small-craft/norwegian-sjekte/


    Based on Jan. The first was built in New York!

    Her story...

    Jan-Story.pdf




    Check out the Maine built 12ft Whitehall and the Anonio Dias Marsh Hawk too, for sale...

    small-classic-boats-for-sale





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    WOW Edward that is a spectacular boat, well done.
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    Oh, geez. Now you've got me all caught up on that website, Edward! (When I should be working on filling that dumpster...) I love the Antonio Dias lug-rigged dayboat, myself.

    Dias lugger.jpg

    I could be happy in the Baltic, along the coast of Finland, for quite a while in a boat like that. If my realtor pulls off a miracle and sells our house for what she thinks she can, it might even be doable.

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