Progress Pics - Biscayne 22 Mahogany Runabout

[Bob Perkins]

Hi All,

Here are some pics (always my favorite to look at on other people's posts..)

I've been busy the past week, I ran 150+ BF through the planer and ended up w/4 barrels of mahogany chips (what can I do with them?). I then made up all of the frame components. It this pic, they are still double stick taped together. I made the first one, the router table did the second [img]smile.gif[/img]


I then started on a frame, spent a lot of time checking, double checking and then checking again to be sure it was set up right.


The next frame went much quicker after doing it once.



I'm off the next 5 days, so I'm hoping to get the rest of them done this week. I'm leaving the excess material on the gussets and deck beams for now. When I get ready to glue them up and coat them in epoxy, I'll do that finish work.

Bob

[WFK]

very tidy Bob! ya gotta be excited about seeing it come together!
Bill

[jlapratt]

Bob;

Nice job. I took the same approach with the frames on my San Juan Dory, leaving the trimming of the gussets until all the frames were assembled and aligned on the stronback, then used a laminate trimmer. I cut and filled the inside corner of the gussets with oak epoxied in (same as frames), do your plans call for the same?

Keep up the good work!
Jeff

[Bob Perkins]

These plans do not call for anything in the gussets, but I like the idea. I'll have to check with Hankinson (designer) to see if there is a recommendation. At minimum, it would keep stuff from collecting in that spot.

I just finished another (more complicated 5 piece + floor) frame, I'm taking a break before going on to the next.

[lumberdude]

Bob, looks good so far. Please keep posting update photos.

What is with all you guys and your big neat shops?

I'm stuck with a two car garage with one car in it!

....maybe someday......

Kory

[Art Read]

"...ended up w/4 barrels of mahogany chips (what can I do with them?)"

SWMBO has been spreading mine in her patch of the family vegetible garden. Port Orford Cedar, Mahogany, White Oak, Doug Fir, Sitka Spruce... Most expensive "mulch" in Christendom!

Thanks for the progress pics... Nice looking work! Did you loft that body plan yourself?

[Bob Perkins]

Hi,

Hankinson sends the plans for the B22 with one full size sheet and 4 small ones. Plus instruction manual.

The full size sheet has 1/2 of the lines, and only the outside of each frame (total of 9 stations for this design).

I just carbon papered the stations to the layout board. No lofting

Bob

ps. I got 2 more frames done today, yay!

[chesterm]

Hey Bob, our Biscayne 22 might actually see water this spring. It's taken 7 years, but it looks nice. We opted for the 23 foot option and actually made the boat 1" longer than called for. I note that you should pay attention to which side of the station line the transom frame is supposedto go on when laying out the motor stringers, it is different than other stations. Oops. Figured out a couple of other inconsistencies in the plans. feel free to inquire within. regards from CT, mitchell

[On Vacation]

I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but I have some info that may be of interest to you and others receiving plans and using patterns from paper reprints. When transfering lengths and angle from paper plans and reprints, you will find that some differences will be when laying up real life hulls.

When you are using good hardwoods, a lot of measuring and remeasuring should be the act of the day. I would suggest that you draw up the patterns on cheap plywoods and and cut jigs patterns. Then set up the boat in real life and check fairing for the hull before you waste expensive woods.

At that time, you can refine your lengths and widths of the good woods and this will make for a fairer boat, especially in a clear coat varnished hull. You will not have much room for imperfections in the final layer of wood.

I would suggest, also, that you layup the jigs and hull sides and then take the rib shapes and the the frame lengths after the facts. Many people measure differently and transfering even from designer lines to copy machines comes out, sometimes, 1/4 inch. This will give some a lot of sleepless nights. A dull pencil mark will make a diference of 1/4 inch in some cases, also.

[ 01-02-2003, 07:48 PM: Message edited by: Oyster ]

[Lowell Bernhardt]

LOOKIN GOOD BOB!

Keep the photos coming.

Lowell

[videoguy]

Nice job and what a SHOP.Have fun building her .........Phil

[jlapratt]

Oyster;

Couldn't agree more. I discovered in building the frames for my dory that even after lofting and measuring many, many times, that adjustments were needed to get it all fair. I had only fitted and glued one frame together which I had to toss. I used only enough screws in the others to allow me to take them apart and make the adjustments. Only when all were aligned fair on the strongback did I reassemble with glue and all necessary screws.

What was that the apprentice would always say.."gee boss, I keep cutting more off and its STILL too short!!"

Life's lessons by experience.
Jeff

[Bob Perkins]

Thanks for the support all.

Shop notes:

I'm really lucky to have the shop and I'm with you guys with smaller spaces..

My shop was the cellar, but I really hated hitting my head ALL of the time and wanted larger space. Also, the plan a couple of years ago was to build a boat (or two) and there was no way to get a boat out the door.

Last year I had a building put in (26x28 2 car garage actually) But I'm happy to say a car has never been in it. It has 100 amp service, blinding light, radiant floor heat and more outlets than my house.. It took most of last year to get it usable, set up, etc..

So the neatness is only due to the fact it hasn't had years of use and all of the crap from the old shop moved up stairs yet.

I've completed 6 of 8 frames now. I should have them all done tomorrow and a few other components done before work on Monday..

I'll be adding more pic's too - they were an inspiration for me as I lurked this site for a long time..

Bob

[Bob Perkins]

I just finished the last frame. Whoo Hoo!
Tomorrow - the stem..


As I get more good pics I'll post 'em.

Bob

[ShalloWater]

Bob, I loved the link you e-mailed me. Probably the best boat-building log since Glenn Ashmore's. Can I share it with the group?

[capt jake]

Bob, I loved the link you e-mailed me. Probably the best boat-building log since Glenn Ashmore's. Can I share it with the group?

Please do share!! Glenn's site is wonderful, isn't it? Come on, share?? [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ShalloWater]

Well, I guess it's somewhat public in that it's a web-page. http://www.bronkalla.com/

I'm planning to build a very similar boat and this site is almost as good as a book on the topic of cold-moulded runabouts. I printed it out for ease of studying and it's like 75-some odd pages. Maybe more. Anyway, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

[Bob Perkins]

Mark's site is definitely public. I followed the construction of his boat while he was doing it.
It has been a good referenced site, I've looked a many times to see how he did certain things.

[ 01-03-2003, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: Bob Perkins ]

[GROOVY]

Looks good Bob , I know the mahog chips/dust will kill grass... I put mine around a nearby tree it killed the grass..

[Roger Stouff]

Ah, reminds me of the good ol' days!

Looking great. Great boat, too.

[Allen Foote]

Hey Bob, thanks for the pics and link. Nice shop. Good boatbuilding!

[On Vacation]

For those that have only scanned the site, this page is one of the most important pages that describe the amount of work and only part what is needed to make the end shine "right".

http://www.bronkalla.com/Fairing.html