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    Default Rittenhouse Verdict Coming

    In moments.

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    . . . Not guilty 3rd
    4th Not
    5th Not
    1st not

    Not guilty all.

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    Acquitted on all charges.
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    Here are the five felonies of which this jury finds him not guilty:

    First-degree intentional homicide
    First-degree reckless homicide
    Attempted first-degree intentional homicide
    Two counts of first-degree recklessly endangering safety

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    Lawlessness

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    Oh goody. Now any 17 year old crybaby can get an assault weapon and shoot anyone who is mean to him. What a farce this nation has become.

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    I really loath this country at times.
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    I see there is the same lack of faith in a jury as demonstrated in other cases by the RWW crowd

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    Oh great, more protests in cities all across the US. Really glad I’ve got a layover in Montreal coming up soon.
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    Don’t like the verdict? Change the law. As it is the jury had no real choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decourcy View Post
    I see there is the same lack of faith in a jury as demonstrated in other cases by the RWW crowd

    I lost faith in jury trials a few years ago, while serving one. A far cry from justice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgr1 View Post
    That's always been obvious, in regard to you and others on this forum.

    But the country as a whole was only watching; the jurors made the decision. Why do you think the jury decided as they did?
    Perhaps because the judge was a biased idiot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decourcy View Post
    Don’t like the verdict? Change the law. As it is the jury had no real choice.
    ^facts not in evidence!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decourcy View Post
    the jury had no real choice.
    riiiiiggght

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP KILPATRICK View Post
    I lost faith in jury trials a few years ago, while serving one. A far cry from justice!
    You prefer another system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    riiiiiggght
    Unless you want a jury to disregard law.

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    Pasty faced blubbering white boy vigilante acquitted of killing two, injuring another, after illegally obtaining his cool AR-15 and crossing state lines.

    What could be wrong with that picture? The future should be interesting. What a shining example for all

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    Change the defendant's ancestry, and he'd be convicted. Sorry, but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decourcy View Post
    You prefer another system?
    Many well respected justice systems have trials with panels of judges. From what I have witnessed, I might be willing to see how that plays out. (And don’t pull out some authoritative country as a counter example, you know that is not what I am talking about)
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    When he left the house with a gun, he was looking for a confrontation and found it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decourcy View Post
    Unless you want a jury to disregard law.
    Have you served on a jury? I saw no regard for law on the one I sat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    Oh goody. Now any 17 year old crybaby can get an assault weapon and shoot anyone who is mean to him. What a farce this nation has become.
    Not any

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    I am so sad to see a once great nation spiralling down the toilet U bend.

    Please accept my condolences.
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    This is just vomitous.
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    Like I said, same language as the RWW crowd when they think the system was wrong. You all sound alike to me. You all, really, sound like you want an authoritarian who’s policies align with your own. Because democracy and rule of law sometimes doesn’t appear just, even when it is.

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    What else could the do? Wisconsin law says you can defend yourself with deadly force if you believe your life is in danger. One of the guys said "I'm going to kill you".

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    They could have convicted on reduced charges, if it came to that. Manslaughter, or versions thereof.

    This is, sadly, exactly the verdict I'd expected. And it's sickening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    They could have convicted on reduced charges, if it came to that. Manslaughter, or versions thereof.

    This is, sadly, exactly the verdict I'd expected. And it's sickening.
    As has been said so many times before, if it’s self defence, none of those apply. The jury decided it was self defence.

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    A very sad day indeed. What is it a very wise man on this forum has as a sig line? There are a lot of things they didn't tell me when I signed on with this outfit.
    "para todo mal, mezcal, y para todo bien también" (for everything bad, mezcal, and for everything good, as well.)

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    These not guilty verdicts disregarded, nullified even, Wisconsin law, where there is a castle doctrine (irrelevant for an out-of-state kid) but no stand your ground law. The jury nullified Rittenhouse's duty to retreat, the lack of deadly threat except in Rittenhouse's hands, and other issues. They followed the precedent of the judge, who had already nullified Wisconsin's gun possession laws.

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    A big one for me was the disproportionate use of force for defense.
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    A verdict predictable, and highly reflective of the politics Wisconsin (and other states) have gravitated to. The far right has taken over the politics of that state, and gerrymandered/manipulated their way into perpetual control. But remember - *somebody* voted them in. It's reflective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decourcy View Post
    Unless you want a jury to disregard law.
    that's funny.

    as if there is nothing to interpret in any of this story.

    as if the verdict were as plain as simple arithmetic.

    as if the judge wasn't influencing the proceedings.

    as if reasonable people can't interpret "self defense" laws differently.

    as if we are not required, all of us, in every day life, to fill in the spirit of law where the letter is incomplete.

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    I can't help but think that when I was his age I (1) would not have had access to a gun, (2) would not have been allowed to go out into a riot, and (3) would not have been allowed to carry a gun into a riot. What was he doing there in the first place? What was he looking for and was it what he found?
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    I believe his mother drove him there.
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