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    Default Swallow. As in “Amazon”.

    The actual boat, sailed by Arthur Ransome and photographed by Evgenia Ransome:



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    Neat! Smaller than I imagined it from the stories. And what’s going on with the laps in the top photo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstevens View Post
    Neat! Smaller than I imagined it from the stories. And what’s going on with the laps in the top photo?
    Clearly that’s the repair the boatbuilders in Rio did after Captain John ran into the rock at the mouth of Horseshoe Cove!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrs5000 View Post
    Clearly that’s the repair the boatbuilders in Rio did after Captain John ran into the rock at the mouth of Horseshoe Cove!
    Of course! It all makes sense now.
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    Swallow from the film an interesting comparison..
    yandy114208.jpg



    Death and glory from the film.. Shown moored at Belaugh Boat yard just up river from Wroxham and Hoveton on the Norfolk Broads. Where I last saw her..
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    Just an amateur bodging away..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstevens View Post
    Neat! Smaller than I imagined it from the stories. And what’s going on with the laps in the top photo?
    She was built as a working boat, by Crossfields of Arnside.

    It was common to fit chafing strips on the lands to protect them.

    Some background on the builders:

    http://arnsidearchive.org.uk/?MARITI...lds_of_Arnside

    Swallow never had her name painted on her, and she seems to have disappeared during WW2.
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    The trim seems to be unaffected by AR sitting so close to the transom, That must give us some idea of her weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Q View Post
    Swallow from the film an interesting comparison..
    yandy114208.jpg
    I think that this is the "Swallow" of the film


    Also Crossfields built for AR, named Coch-y-bonddhu.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Yes, in the books as “Scarab”. She replaced “Swallow” in Ransome’s ownership.


    And for completeness, here’s “Amazon” as she is today:

    The notice reads: “This is a very old dinghy in peaceful retirement. Please do not disturb her.”

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    I used to live and breathe this when I was a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    I used to live and breathe this when I was a kid.
    Very many of us did! There was sailing before Ransome’s books, but there was an awful lot more afterwards!
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    My uncle took up sailing because of these books, I took up sailing because of these books, and my kids -- and a couple of their friends -- have taken up sailing because of these books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    Very many of us did! There was sailing before Ransome’s books, but there was an awful lot more afterwards!
    I've mentioned it many times but whenever we line up on leads or marks into a tricky place I think of Wildcat island.
    Best so far. Quilaquila pass into Vanua Bulavu, easy but about a mile using white painted leads on shore, Coral heads each side.
    Line up the white painted end of an islet with a white painted coconut palm into Namuka I Lau, spooky. Slipping over the reef, wrong water colour all around you.
    Fulaga pass, 500 m x 50 through the coral , no leads though , go to the end and hang port close to the islet....
    I'm beginning to pine for the Pacific now. Weather eye out for waterspouts.
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    I'm re-reading the series right now. I just finished "Winter Holiday" so "Coot Club" is up next!

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    Leading lights/lines are called "ranges" here in the US. Unless I'm the skipper. There are quite a run of them on the Delaware river.

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    I've literally just come from Coot Club. And have a copy of it not 10 ft away from me.

    That is I was at Horning Staithe and just a hundred yards away at Horning sailing club, not an hour ago, where it was the Start of the Tri Icycle race, covering much of the settings of the book, though not as much of the settings as the 3 Rivers Race covers.
    If you look at the web cams below the staithe is where the boats are moored by the end of the White House in the top left picture.
    The webcams cover much of the books area.
    https://www.horning-sailing.club/webcams/

    The White House is now a cafe but would have been a home at the time of Ransome.
    A picture of the cafe and staithe.
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    Why I sail, and why I live here..
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    Those webcams are neat.

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    They were set up for the 3 Rivers Race, the one at Acle bridge depends on the pub but was installed by our tame IT man similarly the one at Martham is in a boat yard. Both tend to get switched off occasionally.
    There are other webcams around the broads provided by various companies or individuals.

    This web page gives a list of the web cams around the area,
    https://forum.norfolkbroadsnetwork.c...ation/webcams/

    I see the competitors are returning to finish at Horning..
    Just an amateur bodging away..

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    And here on the Orwell at Pin Mill is the “Goblin”, actually Ransome’s own seven ton Hillyard cutter and actually named by him the “Nancy Blackett”.

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    Wow, they ate a lot of canned corn beef, must explain all the tea they drank. Second only to milk, which seems to be something great labors are taken to acquire for each morning's breakfast.

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    There are genuine books about sailing trips on the broads pre ww2 and even late 1800s. The first job in the morning was often to wander off to the nearest farm to get some milk.. If you had some left over from the previous day it was left dangling in the water in it's bottle to keep it cool.
    As for for food, tinned corned beef was certainly the main common food when you don't have refrigerators on board..
    Even through to the 1960's at home corned beef was often on the menu..
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    I shipped as cook with HW Tilman in 1974. I still have the stores list. It starts with 96 cans of corned beef…
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    How many ways of cooking it did you have, Andrew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    I shipped as cook with HW Tilman in 1974. I still have the stores list. It starts with 96 cans of corned beef…
    Andrew, That list would be of great historical interest to some of us. If you find yourself with some extra time, we'd appreciate it if you could scan it or transcribe it, and post it along with some context. For instance, 96 tins of corned beef doesn't sound like a whole lot, depending of course on the size of the crew and the length of the voyage.
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    I was mistaken. The corned beef is item 28 on the second page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJZimm View Post
    Andrew, That list would be of great historical interest to some of us. If you find yourself with some extra time, we'd appreciate it if you could scan it or transcribe it, and post it along with some context. For instance, 96 tins of corned beef doesn't sound like a whole lot, depending of course on the size of the crew and the length of the voyage.
    See above for my original list. Crew of five, four months.

    You may like this:

    https://comlay.net/tilman/

    Easy things to do with tons of corned beef:

    - corned beef and onion pie or pudding
    - spaghetti “bolognaise”
    - corned beef curry
    - corned beef stew
    - corned beef hash…
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    ^^^ Very cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI-Tom View Post
    ^^^ Very cool!

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    Wow.

    It is pretty hard to be cooler than Swallow and Amazon, but I’m pretty sure that makes the grade, Andrew! What a cool trip and cool pictures and what a swank excerpt…

    This is a wonderful thread!

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    Very cool! I think I need to read some Tillman again.

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    This is the cool picture.

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