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    Default Valida Snow. The second best jazz trumpet player of her time

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTUaYu-zFA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6e7ye-fiJA (Bio)
    Well that's what Louis said anyhow, and how come i've never heard of her?
    Quite a lady, had a european open car, a driver, a footman and a monkey all dressed in the same uniform. Married a 19 year old dancer……………..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C870hbSoNnI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-J7M7IUYxM

    Then there's leona May Smith, Dolly Jones.
    And the Sweethearts of Rhythm!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WczP3PyHt20
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    Default Re: Valida Snow. The second best jazz trumpet player of her time

    Uh, there's Louis. And then there's Miles.

    That's it.
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    Default Re: Valida Snow. The second best jazz trumpet player of her time

    She's good. No doubt.

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    Default Re: Valida Snow. The second best jazz trumpet player of her time

    "of her time" and Louis said it.

    Miles is in a catagory of his own.

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    Default Re: Valida Snow. The second best jazz trumpet player of her time

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    Uh, there's Louis. And then there's Miles.

    That's it.
    RARELY have I read a more ignorant comment, even here in the Bilge!

    For your elucidation:

    Clark Terry.
    Dizzy Gillespie.
    Clifford Brown.
    Chet Baker.
    Doc Severinson.
    Maynard Ferguson (especially early Maynard).
    Art Farmer.
    Freddie Hubbard.

    In the more modern era:

    Tom Harrell.
    Ron Stout.
    Wynton Marsalis.
    Arturo Sandoval.

    Of that list, Clark Terry and Dizzy are in the first rank for sure. Clifford died at 26 so never had the same chance they did. Arturo's playing is unmatched from a sheer technical perspective, but he's got way more than just technique. Chet is probably the most lyrical player ever--Charlie Parker told the east coast jazz guys that he was playing with "a little white cat (Chet) who's going to give you guys a lot of trouble."

    Ron Stout may be the most underrated and under-known jazz trumpet soloist in recent (1980s-today) years.

    With that list above, we're a bit closer to the truth...

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    Default Re: Valida Snow. The second best jazz trumpet player of her time

    ^ to this list add
    herb alpert
    woody shaw
    buck clayton
    harry james
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    ^ to this list add
    herb alpert
    woody shaw
    buck clayton
    harry james
    Herb Alpert? My relatively uninformed impression is that he's not up there with the likes of Woody Shaw. Certainly not Dizzy, Clark Terry, Clifford, and Chet. Did Herb actually do any real jazz? I thought he was all pop stylings and naked ladies with strategically deployed whipped cream on his LP covers.

    Harry James, Buck Clayton--yep. But mostly big band stuff. I think the real masters did their best work in small groups, with more room for solos. But certainly for the swing era, those two were at the top of the game. Roy Eldridge, too. But methinks the swing era has not aged as well as bop.

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    Default Re: Valida Snow. The second best jazz trumpet player of her time

    Freddie Hubbard #3 for me. Clifford Brown 3b.

    All the rest very good, but no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    Freddie Hubbard #3 for me. Clifford Brown 3b.

    All the rest very good, but no.
    You leave out Clark Terry and Dizzy Gillespie as vastly influential jazz trumpeters?

    I'd say that's a low-credibility list you've got going on, then. Miles himself cites both of them as major influences. What's your thinking on excluding them?

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    Default Re: Valida Snow. The second best jazz trumpet player of her time

    Because Miles was better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    Because Miles was better.
    Miles "better" than Clark Terry? "Better" than Dizzy Gillespie?

    Time for you to do a lot more listening, I think. And to think about how meaningless a judgement of "better" is for players and artists of this caliber, each doing their own thing in an inimitable and hugely influential style.

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    Default Re: Valida Snow. The second best jazz trumpet player of her time

    What Tom said.

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