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    I’m going to be picking this nice little skiff up in a couple of weeks, this will be #8 for my Jersey built boats.
    She is a 19 foot rolled garboard keel skiff (many would say “Sea Bright skiff”. She is in quite nice condition and was originally built with the centerboard (a bit unusual). She was built with a plywood bottom and garboards. This may be the biggest clue as to her builder, who may have been someone named “Robinson”. Unfortunately there may be no one left with knowledge of him.
    Otherwise she is completely traditional with Jersey white cedar planking and steam bent oak ribs, all riveted together.
    Whoever built her knew what they were doing. Her interior color is also correct for an open Jersey skiff of the 40’s & 50’s, which I am guessing is when she was built.

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    And more….that’s all

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    Neat boat!
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    What a find!

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    Love it.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Nice.

    You say it followed you home?

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    Nice!
    Interesting how the bottom pintle is extended out to make the rudder plumb on the boat.
    So it's kind of like a rudder independant of the transom below the water
    I wonder what the advantage/ disadvantage of this would be.
    Do you have any more seabright type boats?
    I'm building a Parker seabright 18 ,so I'm really interested in this type

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    A beauty, Ned.

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    delightful!
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    That's a beauty, I'm envious! Keep us posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Moore View Post
    Nice!
    Interesting how the bottom pintle is extended out to make the rudder plumb on the boat.
    So it's kind of like a rudder independant of the transom below the water
    I wonder what the advantage/ disadvantage of this would be.
    Do you have any more seabright type boats?
    I'm building a Parker seabright 18 ,so I'm really interested in this type
    I thought the lower gudgeon setup was a bit different too.

    My other New Jersey built boats...

    I saved this 17 ft Joralemon pound boat built in Monmouth Beach N.J. in the 1920's or 30's.




    this 1986 Charles Hankins surf boat built in Lavallette N.J. that spent it's life on the beaches of Spring Lake N.J as an ocean life guard boat.






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    This 1965 Charles Hankins 19 ft outboard well skiff. Built in Lavallette N.J.




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    This late 1930's early 1940's 16 ft Jersey speed skiff built by William Tallman in Fair Haven N.J.





    I have had her since 1977 and when I got her she looked like this.



    She is undergoing her second complete rebuild by me now & looks like this today (getting a new bottom & re-ribbing)



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    Last fall I saved this 1954(?) 24 ft Campbell skiff that was built by Robert Campbell of Belmar N.J. as his own personal boat for "commuting" back and forth across Shark River from his house to his boat yard where he built boats



    This is the half model she was built off of.






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    And then this 1957, 33 ft Hubert Johnson Jersey sea skiff



    After being abandon for 14 years in a boat yard in Keyport N.J. she was a three year rebuild.










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    That style was built on Long Island too, in Amityville I think. There was one near here some years back, slowly dying in a yard.

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    It's great that you are preserving these boats so they don't just dissappear.
    And very impressive that you can actually completly rebuild them as they were built.
    I have a 60 year old Orkney skiff(from the Orkney Islands) that needs a complete rebuild.
    I am pretty good at plywood glass and goop boatbuilding, but I am very intimidated by traditional clinker boat restoration.
    I'm retiring next year, and have been holding on to it for 20 years.
    It needs all new planking and ribs.I have stabilized it with plywood molds, so it hasn't lost it's shape.
    This boat has family history as well as it's own history and it's inspiring to see what you have done with these boats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Moore View Post
    It's great that you are preserving these boats so they don't just dissappear.
    And very impressive that you can actually completly rebuild them as they were built.
    I have a 60 year old Orkney skiff(from the Orkney Islands) that needs a complete rebuild.
    I am pretty good at plywood glass and goop boatbuilding, but I am very intimidated by traditional clinker boat restoration.
    I'm retiring next year, and have been holding on to it for 20 years.
    It needs all new planking and ribs.I have stabilized it with plywood molds, so it hasn't lost it's shape.
    This boat has family history as well as it's own history and it's inspiring to see what you have done with these boats.
    Very good for you! As long as she has her shape it is then just much a matter of playing "follow the leader" of what was done before you.

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    These photos are fantastic! What an amazing job you've done in rescuing these neglected treasures. I am in awe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I.Tobsur View Post
    How is that garboard plank fastened to the box side, just rivets?

    The wide plank bottom must make it easier for fitting a centreboard case. Would that plywood have been original?

    Nice to see clinker boats being repaired, too many people are put off.
    "Normally", On a rolled garboard keel the garboard that forms the sides of the box keel screws are used forward right up by the stem and aft in the box, where the garboard is too vertical for rivets. Rivets are used amidships as much as possible.

    Here you can see where the rivets stop and screws are then used up to the stem.



    Similarly, here you can pick up where rivets were used from amidship and back toward the box keel, and the point where the change to wood screws takes over.





    The skiff that I will be picking up appears to have had wood screws used the whole length from the stem to the stern post. The use of plywood for the bottom and the garboard are original in this boat, and that is leading me to think her builder may have been someone by the name of "Robinson", but I'm not sure.
    this boat is also a bit different in that there is almost a chine log that runs along the edge of the bottom for the garboard to rest against. this detail was commonly used in the 16ft Jersey speed skiffs (inboard race boats), but I have not seen it before in a surf boat or beach skiff.

    You can see that "chine log" in this Seaman built speed skiff "Suds"


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    There were actually two very different construction methods that resulted in that same "Boxed keel" that is so unique to the New Jersey build skiffs.

    Generally the smaller boats were built with a "rolled garboard keel", as in the skiff I will be picking up.

    On these two construction model I built you can see how on the right hull the garboard starts at the stem, rolls down fairly flat amidships and then comes back up vertically to form the box keel. This is the "rolled garboard keel", most common in the smaller boats.

    The left model shows a real "boxed garboard keel", where there is a triangular shaped plank that starts about amidships at zero height and increases in height as it moves aft toward the stern post. This box garboard keel was more typical in larger boats.









    Two different ways to accomplish a similar end result.

    Charles Hankins (the last builder of Jersey sea skiffs & surf boats) used a rolled garboard keel on his boats up to about 20 feet, and then a box garboard keel from there on up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedL View Post
    "Normally", On a rolled garboard keel the garboard that forms the sides of the box keel screws are used forward right up by the stem and aft in the box, where the garboard is too vertical for rivets. Rivets are used amidships as much as possible.

    Here you can see where the rivets stop and screws are then used up to the stem.



    Similarly, here you can pick up where rivets were used from amidship and back toward the box keel, and the point where the change to wood screws takes over.





    The skiff that I will be picking up appears to have had wood screws used the whole length from the stem to the stern post. The use of plywood for the bottom and the garboard are original in this boat, and that is leading me to think her builder may have been someone by the name of "Robinson", but I'm not sure.
    this boat is also a bit different in that there is almost a chine log that runs along the edge of the bottom for the garboard to rest against. this detail was commonly used in the 16ft Jersey speed skiffs (inboard race boats), but I have not seen it before in a surf boat or beach skiff.
    The chine log is probably necessary because the ply bottom is too thin and fragile to take the fastenings well, it being half end grain.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    The chine log is probably necessary because the ply bottom is too thin and fragile to take the fastenings well, it being half end grain.
    I agree with you Nick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I.Tobsur View Post
    Many thanks for the explanation. I would have thought an internal stringer along the join might have given the plank fastenings more depth and more bearing for the plank. That green skiff is art.
    that speed skiff with the green interior is “Suds”, an original Pappy Seaman speed skiff built in the 1950’s (I forget the exact year off the top of my head). She was completely rebuilt by her current owner (who’s family also owned her in the 1970’s.

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