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    Default Cotton Cord - knot tying

    having spent 21 years in the US Navy and around so many boats in my lifetime, I have forgotten the "proper" name for the authentic (vintage) cotton cord used in Sailor's Knot Tying. I want to make a few lanyards and other decorative items and don't want to use nylon para-cord. From what I can remember, it was like 1/8 - 3/16" diameter.
    a friendly reminder would be much appreciated.
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    Sash cord?


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    sorry Dave, no, I think sash cord is like 1/4" diameter.
    what I remember is like a pretty stout 3 or 4 strand cotton cord.
    much like a butcher type string but without the "fuzz". I would watch the Bosun' Mates do their magic and it seemed so artful.
    the common macrame cord is not even close - that is for arts-n-crafts.
    I had a book on Nautical Knot Tying that probably gave the specs and sources of purchase but my lovely daughter absconded it and it hasn't been seen since. (guess I'm back to Amazon for another one LOL).
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    thank Jeff - I'll look into it. (but don't need tarred rope) this is for lanyards that will go around your neck or attached to tools.
    I will call Knot and Rope.com tomorrow and see what they have.
    thanks again for the leads.

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    I thought for sure there would be old former Navy guys here - and those that dabbled in Nautical Rope Art like in the Days of Yore.
    I have just about exhausted the internet searches. the one that stands out is knotandrope.com and I will call them tomorrow.
    I guess I'm looking for someone that has had actual hands on experience in the vintage craft of nautical knotwork.
    thanks to all for your help.
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    Default Re: Cotton Cord - knot tying

    One of our own is Vince Brennan - he has done a lot of knot work - Check out 'frayedknotarts.com' ( no affiliation )






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    thanks Rick - I have admired his work but I forgot his name - thanks.
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    Default Re: Cotton Cord - knot tying

    I prefer braided nylon to laid cotton. The hard part is finding round nylon twine. A lot of the net twines are flat, or at least not round. Elliptical, maybe? There is this really stiff, round, braided nylon that is called "halibut gange" around here (NW coast of BC), used for the hooks that hang off a long line. It is ideal for turksheads and other coverings on stanchions and rails, but is a bit too large for whistle or knife lanyards.

    Fishermen's supply stores will have net twine, and plus rope and other kinds of small stuff. Usually pretty cheap.

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    Default Re: Cotton Cord - knot tying

    You can buy Macrame Cord (three or so ply cotton cord) in many thicknesses.
    I have two thicknesses here, 6mm and 4mm. i use it for practicing knots.

    https://www.thewoolroom.com.au/p/mac...otton-5mm-1kg/
    https://www.thewoolroom.com.au/p/mac...trand-3mm-2kg/

    5mm is about 7/93rds of a mile plus a newts eye. and 3mm is about 1/8"
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    Default Re: Cotton Cord - knot tying

    these folks might be able to help out

    https://mysticknotwork.com/

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    Default Re: Cotton Cord - knot tying

    Knoticalusa.com has cotton cord.

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    We used to call it "cod line" or "seine net cord." It's three-strand hard laid cotton line. It also used to be sold as "chalk line," but all the chalk line I've seen sold in recent years is synthetic. It comes in a variety of sizes. These guys appear to still carry it: https://wallacecordagecompany.com/ou...cotton-twines/

    You'll see "cotton twine" or "cotton cord" sold, but for fancywork, it has to be laid up good and hard. The loosely laid soft stuff isn't much good for fancywork. You can also get hemp cord these days, which is actually the really salty stuff. Its properties are near-indistinguishable from linen (flax.) Good stuff and now happily back on the market.

    They used to sell a ton of it for macrame tying back in the sixties and seventies. (Sheesh! That was 50 years ago! I'm dating myself.) You can still source cotton macrame cord on line and in crafts stores like Michael's. It's probably better to go there where you can lay hands on the stuff and see if it's laid up hard enough. See: https://sgtknots.com/collections/cra...c10b7cdb3766c1

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    thanks to all for the very informative suggestions - fair winds to all.
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