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    I've never sailed one, I'm not sure I've ever actually seen one in the flesh... is the luff really set free like the sketch shows, or is that just some sketcher's sketchy idea of how to rig a sail?
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    My memory from sailing one in the mid '60s is a grooved wood mast.

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    I just gave one away (El Toro mast/boom, both grooved) Sabot uses a sleeved sail.

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    Wasn't that the class with the infamous floating anchor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    I just gave one away (El Toro mast/boom, both grooved) Sabot uses a sleeved sail.
    Bummer! I am looking for one.
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    There are, or were, a ton of them in the SF Bay Area. The plans used to be readily available. Easily built in a garage out of plywood. Good little sailers, but easy to dump in a gust if you aren't real attentive.

    The 10' Melody is a somewhat enlarged version. Stands up to the wind a bit better. Carry's three in a pinch. The El Toro is pretty much a one-adult or two-kid boat.


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    El Toro class association. https://www.eltoroyra.org

    Look under articles for "how to build".

    Order plans and your sail number here: https://www.eltoroyra.org/info/order-sail-numbers-plans

    The manual, "How to Build an El Toro": https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qeJ...ew?usp=sharing



    Hardware/rigging list (seems to be shy, though, where are the rudder pintles/gudgeons? Or the gooseneck?)

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    I raced in the class as a teen. It mattered very little how much you weighed, so an 80 pound kid and a 180 pound man could race on pretty even footing.

    Not very good tenders. They have so much rocker, they never want to plane, so they towed really heavy. But there were a blast to sail and race!

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    Are Melody plans available somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan H View Post
    Are Melody plans available somewhere?

    Melody is a 1951 William Ashcroft design, built by John C. Beery/Basin Boatcraft (USA). Can't find anything more on it than that.

    Might start with the El Toro class association, then the San Francisco maritime museum.
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    I learned to sail on an El Toro and my first sailboat was an enlarged El Toro, about 10 feet

    Now I have a Sabot as a tender, which lives on the swimstep on my cruiser.

    Had it a year, have not sailed it yet
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    Oh, that looks super fun!

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    I've had a set of El Toro plans gathering dust in thew shop for years, it would be a fun little winter-time project.

    Like I don't have enough of those in the hopper...or random small boats sitting around...

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    Woodwinds dingy is a bullship, had it 35 years. It’s Jans dink actually. It sculls like a bat outta hell. It tows badly, don’t do it.I modified (shortened) the rig .

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    I know for certain that if there are libations and other premium offerings to the gods made available, 3 men can sail away an afternoon in an El Toro and still make it back to the dock. Two were of average height at about 160lbs the third was 6' 6" at 200lbs, and with that cargo there is no need to reposition at each tack. So yeah, they are a blast!

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